Guest guest Posted November 4, 2003 Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 Dear devotees of the Adi Shakti, Last month a bhootish SY Edward Saugstad from Vancouver went about spreading negativity about my children. This is his post made Wed Oct 15, 2003 6:11 am at the SY Diversity which is still allowed to stand by the moderator, despite being false and inflammatory. " -www.adishakti.org, in which Mr. Kash (the supra-conscious son of a 'sahaja yogi') would like everyone to know of his special powers that put him a step above the average sahaja yogi, flying high in the bright realm of pingala. Edward " sy_diversity/message/305 But Edward Saugstad did not just stop here. He continued attacking my family by sending emails to other SYs, falsely claiming that Shri Mataji had told him facts about me and Kash. i know for a fact that Edward is a liar as no other SY has been given that specific information he claims to have heard from Shri Mataji. It is time he either stands his ground and confirm that Shri Mataji told him so, or apologize for bearing false witness against my family. In the meantime this is what Shri Mataji has said regarding the states that all SYs should aspire to reach, states that Edward Saugstad ridicules and scoffs at the SY Diversity forum: " Now this fourth stage is called Turiya dasha. Then comes the fifth stage in which I don't want to give you names or you stick on to these. They are not so clear-cut. They might mingle from each other and they are but in Turiya state. When you mature properly, then you jump in the fifth state in which you do not even determine or say anything – just anything slips out of your mouth, may not even slip out, it works. It's a state. Then you handle the whole situation, sitting down here. Sitting down here, you know each other's chakras. Then not only you master it, but in that you can enter into it. Now, for example, I tell you I can enter into your subconscious, into your collective subconscious; into your supraconscious; into all these areas you see, like that if I want. THIS IS WHEN YOU HAVE MASTERED IT COMPLETELY. When you enter into it, when you are the master, then you enter into it. Then you enter the seventh state and that is the state where you just are. Your being there is sufficient. Just being there, nothing exists, but you for yourself. Now all these seven states you can reach, because I stand beyond that and I have come down to the first state and I'm trying to pull you up. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi BECOMING - 18th May 1980, UK i hope that those children who have mastered the seven states that Shri Mataji wants SYs to achieve will be left alone by Edward Saugstad and those behind him. It is time this evil of jealousy amongst SYs, as Shri Mataji had told singer Sanjay Talwar, be put to an end. Leaders have to act decisively so that those quietly doing the work of Sahaja Yoga and the Adi Shakti are not repeatedly harassed by murmuring souls. We are not looking for any recognition or reward. All we want is a peace of mind to continue. Is that too much to ask? may the Truth prevail, jagbir PS: i wish to thank all SYs who have rallied and offered their assistance to bring this negativity and jealousy amongst SYs to an end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2003 Report Share Posted November 6, 2003 shriadishakti , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org> wrote: > Dear devotees of the Adi Shakti, > > Last month a bhootish SY Edward Saugstad from Vancouver went about > spreading negativity about my children. This is his post made Wed > Oct 15, 2003 6:11 am at the SY Diversity which is still allowed to > stand by the moderator, despite being false and inflammatory. > > " -www.adishakti.org, in which Mr. Kash (the supra-conscious son > of a 'sahaja yogi') would like everyone to know of his special > powers that put him a step above the average sahaja yogi, flying > high in the bright realm of pingala. > > Edward " > > sy_diversity/message/305 > > But Edward Saugstad did not just stop here. He continued attacking > my family by sending emails to other SYs, falsely claiming that > Shri Mataji had told him facts about me and Kash. i know for a > fact that Edward is a liar as no other SY has been given that > specific information he claims to have heard from Shri Mataji. It > is time he either stands his ground and confirm that Shri Mataji > told him so, or apologize for bearing false witness against my > family. > " Then the human mind has another capacity to be jealous, to be jealous of others. This also comes from unwise understanding. If you surrender your jealousies at the Lotus Feet of God, I mean, you are all doing rubbish actually. The stupid jealousies that you have are, as you know, of no value - neither in this world, nor in that world. The most surprising thing is that the Sahaja Yogis feel jealous of each other! And I can't understand how it can be? If you are standing in the sunshine, then you are jealous of your shadows! Somebody's shadows are big, somebody's shadows are small – so you are jealous of each other. Sometimes I give a present to one person, can't give to the others, then they get jealous. If I give more time to somebody, then others are jealous. I only give more time to people who are getting lost. So you have to understand that all our ideas about jealousies are stupid. . . . A Sahaja Yogi must have discretion if his Vishuddhi is alright. You should unders6tand that what I'm saying is to be used discretely, not blindly. " Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi Vienna, Austria September 4, 1983 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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