Guest guest Posted November 19, 2003 Report Share Posted November 19, 2003 shriadishakti , Pamela Ellis <musicalenclined> wrote: > Matthew 28:18-20 > And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying " All authority has > been given to Me in heaven and on earth. " Go therefore and make > disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the > Father and the Son and the Holy Spiri, teaching them to observe > all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to > the end of the age. " > John 14:16 > " I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that > He may be with you forever > John 14:26 > " When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, > that is the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will > testify about me. > John 16:7-15 > But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; > for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I > go, I will send Him to you. " And He, when He comes, will convict > the world concerning sin and righteousness and judgment; > concerning sin, because they do not believe in Me; and concerning > righteousness, because I go the Father and you no longer see Me; > and concerning judgment, because the ruler of this world has been > judged. " I have many more things to say to you, but you cannot > bear them now. " But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will > guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own > initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will > disclose to you what is to come. " He will glorify Me, for He will > take of Mine and will disclose it to you. " All things that the > Father has are Mine; therfore I said that He takes of Mine and > will disclose it to you................. > Dear Pamela, Contrary to what you are preaching and have been indoctrinated, the Holy Spirit (Adi Shakti, Shekinah, Ruh of Allah, Paraprajnamita, Aykaa Mayee) of all traditions have been, are and always will be feminine. " The Gender of the Holy Spirit The question of the gender of the Holy Spirit is rarely if ever discussed for the simple reason that the Spirit's masculinity is naturally assumed from the masculinity of God: God is masculine and is always addressed as " he " , so surely the same must be true of the Holy Spirit, a member of the Trinity. Like most theologians I had always assumed this to be true. I don't know that anyone ever formally taught me that " the Spirit is masculine " ; it would hardly seem necessary. In my graduate Semitics program at UCLA, one of the languages I had to study was Syriac, a dialect of Aramaic written with rounded letters reminiscent of modern Arabic. Syriac was the language of people living in northern Mesopotamia, from at least 300 BC until the time Arabic became dominant in the region, around 1000 AD. . . . One striking puzzlement of the texts, at least to me, was the constant reference to the Holy Spirit as " she " . I was aware, of course, that in Aramaic (and hence in the dialect known as Syriac) the natural gender of the word " spirit " was feminine; however, I was surprised to discover that this accident of grammar had resulted in a whole theology constructed around the femininity of the third person of the Godhead. An example of Syriac theology is found in the apocryphal Acts of Thomas; it is usually assumed that this particular work was influenced by speculative gnostic Judaism because it contains the notion, that associated with God was a wisdom, or creative power - a spirit - which was feminine. In an invocation accompanying baptism, Thomas calls for the Holy Spirit: Come, holy name of Christ that is above every name; Come, power of the Most High and perfect compassion; Come, thou highest gift; Come, compassionate mother; Come, fellowship of the male; Come, thou (f.) that dost reveal the hidden mysteries; Come, mother of seven houses, that thy rest may be in the eighth house. (Acts of Thomas 2:27) Come, silence that dost reveal the great deeds of the whole greatness; Come thou that dost show forth the hidden things And make the ineffable manifest; Holy Dove that bearest the twin young; Come, hidden Mother; Come, thou that art manifest in thy deeds and dost furnish joy and rest for all that are joined with thee; Come and partake with us in this Eucharist Which we celebrate in thy name, and in the love-feast in which we are gathered together at thy call. (Acts of Thomas 5:50) After reading such materials I decided that Syrian Orthodox Christianity was somewhat heretical (though perhaps only through an accident of grammar), and so I wanted nothing to do with Syriac literature. I would find something else on which to do my dissertation. Then came the Spring of 1986. I was teaching advanced Hebrew, and I had decided to take the class through the book of Judges. As we read along, I noticed something odd about Judges 3:10: The Spirit of Yahweh came upon Caleb's younger brother... In English, this passage from Judges doesn't appear startling, but in Hebrew something strange leapt out at me: " came upon " was a third person FEMININE verb, indicating it's subject " Spirit " was being understood as a feminine noun. Hebrew is not like Aramaic in its use of the word " spirit " . While the word is exclusively feminine in Aramaic, in Hebrew it is sometimes masculine. Therefore, the question that came to mind was why had the author of Judges chosen here to make the Spirit of Yahweh feminine, when he could just as easily have made it masculine? Oh well. I just shrugged my shoulders and went on, not overly concerned. Occasionally, I thought, one finds something inexplicable in the Bible: no big deal. But then came Judges 6:34. Again, " Spirit of Yahweh " was feminine. At this point I decided to consult the concordance. Much to my surprise, every occurrence of " Spirit of Yahweh " in Judges is feminine. As I pondered that, I recalled Genesis 1:2, the first occurrence of " Spirit of God " in the Bible, and realized to my shock that it too is feminine. " " (www.theology.edu/) According to various Jewish/Christians scholars the Holy Spirit in the Bible is regarded as: 1. Some mysterious, creative power of God, possessing and inspiring humans; Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you. 1 Corinthians 3:16 Now the Lord is that Spirit: And where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 2 Corinthians 3:17 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God Rom. 8: 14 Likewise the Spirit also helps our infirmities: For we know not what we should pray for as we ought: But the Spirit itself makes intercession for us, with groanings which cannot be uttered. And he that searches the heart know, what is the mind of the Spirit, Because She makes intercessions for the saints, according to the will of God. Rom. 8: 26-27 2. A quasi-physical force in the form of wind; But knowest not whence it comes and where it goes; thus is every one that is born of the Spirit. John 3:8 3. The personal activity of God Himself; Cast me not away from Thy presence, and take not Thy Holy Spirit from me. Psalms 51:11 4. The Spirit of God; And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. Genesis 1:2 Then said Mary unto the angel, how shall this be, seeing I know not a man? And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost will come unto thee: Therefore also that holy thing that shall be born of thee, shall be called the Son of God. " Luke 1:34-35 For what man knows the things of man, save the spirit of man which is in him? Even so the things of God knows no man, but the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; That we may know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teaches, But which the Holy Ghost teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 1 Corinthians 2: 13 5. The inner principal in the `new life' in Christ; The Spirit of the Lord is upon me because She hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; She hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, And recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised Luke 4:18 6. A supreme Spirit in prophecy; For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: But holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. 2 Peter 1:21 7. The Spirit which baptizes; For John truly baptized with water; But ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost, not many days hence. Acts 1: 5 8. The mode of God's activity in history; But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, Even the Spirit of Truth, which proceeds from the Father, She shall testify of Me. John 15:26 9. The living energy of a personal God; But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the Kingdom of God is come unto you. Mat. 12:28 10. The breath of the Almighty; By the Word of the Lord were the heavens made; and all the host of them by the breath of his mouth. Psalms 33: 6 The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty has given me life. Job 33: 4 Thou sendest forth Thy Spirit, they are created: and Thou renewest the face of the earth. Psalms 104: 30 The grass withers, the flowers fade: Because the Spirit of the Lord blows upon it. Isaiah 40:7 11. The Spirit in supernatural endowments of ethical and spiritual understanding; I have heard of thee that the Spirit of the Gods is in thee, And the Light and understanding and excellent wisdom is found in thee. Daniel 51:14 And the Spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the Spirit of Wisdom and understanding, The Spirit of counsel and might, the Spirit of Knowledge and of the fear of the Lord. Isaiah 11: 2 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man, to profit withal. For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; To another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; To another faith by the same Spirit; To another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; To another discerning of spirits; To another diverse kinds of tongues; To another the interpretation of tongues; But all these worketh that one and selfsame Spirit. 1. Corinthians 11: 7-11 12. The Spirit of wisdom and judgement; But there is a Spirit in man: And the inspiration of Almighty gives them understanding. Great men are not always wise: Neither do the aged understand judgement Job 32:8-9 Turn you at My reproof: Behold, I will pour out My Spirit unto you, I will make known My Words unto you. Proverbs 1:23 13. The mode of human communion with God; And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out My Spirit upon all flesh; And your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, Your young men shall see visions, and also upon the servants and upon the handmaidens, In those days will I pour out My Spirit. Joel 2:28-29 14. The mode of transmitting God's revelation to humans; The Spirit of the Lord God is upon me; because the Lord has anointed me, To peach good tidings unto the meek; He has sent me to bind up the broken-hearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound. Isaiah 61:1 15. The Spirit which liberates; Now the Lord if that Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 2 Corinthians 3:17 16. The Spirit which brings renewal; Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us, By the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost. Titus 3: 5 17. The Spirit which brings hope; And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts, By the Holy Spirit which is given unto us. Rom. 5:5 Now may the God of hope fill you with all the joy, And peace in believing, that you may abound in hope, by the power of the Holy Spirit. Romans 15:13 18. The Spirit which comforts; I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter, That may abide with you forever. John 14: 16 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, Even the Spirit of Truth which preceedeth from the Father, She shall testify of me. And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning. John 15: 26-27 In case you need more evidence of the Feminine Holy Spirit please visit these links: Holy Spirit of Christianity: http://www.adishakti.org/text_files/holy_spirit.htm Shakti of Hinduism http://www.adishakti.org/kitab_al_munir/book_of_enlightenment.htm Ruh of Allah of Islam http://www.adishakti.org/text_files/ruh_of_allah.htm Shekinah of Judaism http://www.adishakti.org/pdf_files/shekinah--the_divine_feminine_ (jps.net).pdf i hope this puts to rest once and for all the gender of the Comforter promised by Jesus, who is none other than Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, to teach all that He could not explain 2000 years ago. jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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