Guest guest Posted November 20, 2003 Report Share Posted November 20, 2003 " JESUS AND THE COMFORTER Whenever Muslims seek to prove that Muhammad is foretold in the New Testament, they immediately appeal to the promise of Jesus that the " Comforter " would follow him and claim that this Comforter was Muhammad (particularly as in the Qur'an, Jesus is alleged to have foretold the coming of Muhammad in Surah 61.6 in similar language). Whereas the Revised Standard Version uses the word " Counsellor " rather than " Comforter " , we shall use the word " Comforter " throughout this chapter because it is more familiar to the Muslims. The texts where the Comforter is mentioned by Jesus are: " And I will pray the Father, and he will give you another Comforter, to be with you for ever, even the Spirit of Truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him; you know him, for he dwells with you, and will be in you. " John 14.16-17. " But the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you. " John 14.26 " But when the Comforter comes, whom I shall send you from the Father, even the Spirit of Truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness to me. " John 15.26 " Nevertheless I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Comforter will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. " John 16.7 . . . 6. " (S)He dwells WITH you. " Where did the Comforter dwell with them? From various verses, especially John 1.32, we can see that the Spirit was in Jesus himself and so was with the disciples. http://www.adishakti.org/kitab_al_munir/book_of_enlightenment.htm 7. " (S)He will be IN you. " Here the death-blow is dealt to the theory that Muhammad is the Comforter, the Spirit of Truth. As the Spirit was in Jesus, so he would be in the disciples as well. The Greek word here is " en " and this means " right inside. " So Jesus was in fact saying " he will be right inside you. " http://www.adishakti.org/kitab_al_munir/book_of_enlightenment.htm 8. The last reason is really a re-emphasis of the first one. Do you notice how often Jesus addresses his own disciples when he speaks of the sphere of influence of the Comforter? " You know him ... he dwells with you ... he will be in you. " Quite clearly the disciples were to anticipate the coming of the Comforter as a spirit who would come to them just after Jesus had left them. No other interpretation can possibly be drawn from this text. Only wishful thinking makes the Muslims allege that Muhammad was foretold by Jesus, but a practical interpretation of the texts destroys this possibility. . . . So it is abundantly proved that Muhammad is not the Spirit of Truth, the Comforter, whose coming Jesus foretold. Who is the Comforter then? He is the very Spirit of the living God as can be seen from some of the quotations already given. On the day when the Comforter duly came upon the disciples, his coming was accompanied by a tremendous sound, " like the rush of a mighty wind " (Acts 2.2). When the Jews heard this, they rushed together to see what was happening. Peter declared to them all: " This is what was spoken by the prophet Joel: 'And in the last days it shall be, God declares, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh.' " Acts 2.16-17. The Comforter, the Spirit of God, had come down on the disciples as Jesus had promised and was to be given to believing Christian men and women from every nation under the sun. . . . The Comforter is also called " the Spirit of Christ " (Romans 8. 9) and the reason is plain from what Jesus said: 1. " (S)He will glorify me " (John 16.14). http://www.adishakti.org/prophecies/prophecy_1.htm http://www.adishakti.org/prophecies/prophecy_2.htm http://www.adishakti.org/prophecies/prophecy_3.htm 2. " (S)He will bear witness to me " (John 15.26). http://www.adishakti.org/prophecies/prophecy_4.htm http://www.adishakti.org/prophecies/prophecy_8.htm http://www.adishakti.org/jesus'_resurrection.htm 3. " (S)He will convince the world concerning sin because they do not believe in me " (John 16. 8-9). http://www.adishakti.org/prophecies/prophecy_5.htm http://www.adishakti.org/prophecies/prophecy_7.htm http://www.adishakti.org/book_of_revelation.htm http://www.adishakti.org/his_human_adversary.htm 4. " (S)He will take what is mine and declare it to you " (John 16.14). http://www.adishakti.org/prophecies/prophecy_6.htm 5. " (S)He will bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you " (John 14.26). http://www.adishakti.org/prophecies/prophecy_9.htm http://www.adishakti.org/text_files/holy_spirit.htm http://www.adishakti.org/lectures_to_earth.htm Quite obviously the great work of the Comforter is to bring people to Jesus, to make them see him as Saviour and Lord, and to draw them to him. The Comforter was given so that the glory of Jesus might be revealed to men and in men. " answering-islam.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2003 Report Share Posted November 22, 2003 shriadishakti , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org> wrote: > " JESUS AND THE COMFORTER > > Whenever Muslims seek to prove that Muhammad is foretold in the New > Testament, they immediately appeal to the promise of Jesus that > the " Comforter " would follow him and claim that this Comforter was > Muhammad (particularly as in the Qur'an, Jesus is alleged to have > foretold the coming of Muhammad in Surah 61.6 in similar language). > Whereas the Revised Standard Version uses the word " Counsellor " > rather than " Comforter " , we shall use the word " Comforter " > throughout this chapter because it is more familiar to the Muslims. > The texts where the Comforter is mentioned by Jesus are: > > " And I will pray the Father, and he will give you another > Comforter, to be with you for ever, even the Spirit of Truth, whom > the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows > him; you know him, for he dwells with you, and will be in you. " > John 14.16-17. > > " But the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in > my name, he will teach you all things, and bring to your > remembrance all that I have said to you. " John 14.26 > > " But when the Comforter comes, whom I shall send you from the > Father, even the Spirit of Truth, who proceeds from the Father, he > will bear witness to me. " John 15.26 > > " Nevertheless I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I > go away, for if I do not go away, the Comforter will not come to > you; but if I go, I will send him to you. " John 16.7 . . . > > 6. " (S)He dwells WITH you. " > > Where did the Comforter dwell with them? From various verses, > especially John 1.32, we can see that the Spirit was in Jesus > himself and so was with the disciples. > > http://www.adishakti.org/kitab_al_munir/book_of_enlightenment.htm > > 7. " (S)He will be IN you. " > > Here the death-blow is dealt to the theory that Muhammad is the > Comforter, the Spirit of Truth. As the Spirit was in Jesus, so he > would be in the disciples as well. The Greek word here is " en " and > this means " right inside. " So Jesus was in fact saying " he will be > right inside you. " > > http://www.adishakti.org/kitab_al_munir/book_of_enlightenment.htm > > 8. The last reason is really a re-emphasis of the first one. Do you > notice how often Jesus addresses his own disciples when he speaks > of the sphere of influence of the Comforter? " You know him ... he > dwells with you ... he will be in you. " Quite clearly the disciples > were to anticipate the coming of the Comforter as a spirit who > would come to them just after Jesus had left them. No other > interpretation can possibly be drawn from this text. Only wishful > thinking makes the Muslims allege that Muhammad was foretold by > Jesus, but a practical interpretation of the texts destroys this > possibility. . . . > > So it is abundantly proved that Muhammad is not the Spirit of > Truth, the Comforter, whose coming Jesus foretold. Who is the > Comforter then? He is the very Spirit of the living God as can be > seen from some of the quotations already given. On the day when > the Comforter duly came upon the disciples, his coming was > accompanied by a tremendous sound, " like the rush of a mighty > wind " (Acts 2.2). When the Jews heard this, they rushed together > to see what was happening. Peter declared to them all: > > " This is what was spoken by the prophet Joel: 'And in the last days > it shall be, God declares, that I will pour out my Spirit on all > flesh.' " Acts 2.16-17. > > The Comforter, the Spirit of God, had come down on the disciples as > Jesus had promised and was to be given to believing Christian men > and women from every nation under the sun. . . . The Comforter is > also called " the Spirit of Christ " (Romans 8. 9) and the reason is > plain from what Jesus said: > > 1. " (S)He will glorify me " (John 16.14). > > http://www.adishakti.org/prophecies/prophecy_1.htm > http://www.adishakti.org/prophecies/prophecy_2.htm > http://www.adishakti.org/prophecies/prophecy_3.htm > > 2. " (S)He will bear witness to me " (John 15.26). > > http://www.adishakti.org/prophecies/prophecy_4.htm > http://www.adishakti.org/prophecies/prophecy_8.htm > http://www.adishakti.org/jesus'_resurrection.htm > > 3. " (S)He will convince the world concerning sin because they do > not believe in me " (John 16. 8-9). > > http://www.adishakti.org/prophecies/prophecy_5.htm > http://www.adishakti.org/prophecies/prophecy_7.htm > http://www.adishakti.org/book_of_revelation.htm > http://www.adishakti.org/his_human_adversary.htm > > 4. " (S)He will take what is mine and declare it to you " (John 16.14). > > http://www.adishakti.org/prophecies/prophecy_6.htm > > 5. " (S)He will bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you " > (John 14.26). > > http://www.adishakti.org/prophecies/prophecy_9.htm > http://www.adishakti.org/text_files/holy_spirit.htm > http://www.adishakti.org/lectures_to_earth.htm > > Quite obviously the great work of the Comforter is to bring people > to Jesus, to make them see him as Saviour and Lord, and to draw > them to him. The Comforter was given so that the glory of Jesus > might be revealed to men and in men. " > > answering-islam.org " So the nourishment comes to you from the Mother Earth represented within you as the Holy Ghost — is the Power that is called as Kundalini in the ancient times. It is the most ancient Knowledge of our country . . . It is placed in your sacrum bone and sacrum means sacred. The Greeks knew the bone is sacred and has something sacred in it. Now this was also known to Muhammad Sahib because he called it asas. In the Bible it is described as the Tree of Life . . . By this Power we become the Spirit that is described by Christ. Christ didn't say that I am the Destination. He said I'll send you the Holy Ghost; I'll send you a Comforter; I'll send you a Redeemer; I'll send you a Councilor. He talked about the future. " Shri Sadhvi Shri Nirmala Devi Sadhvi (711th): A lady of pure character. Sadhu is the certitude that the Sadhak is one with Brahman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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