MANIPULATION WITH SHRI MATAJI'S DISCOURSE IS NOT A NEGLECTABLE CASE

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|| JAI SHRI MATAJI ||

 

Dear Shri Jagbir Singh Ji, JAI SHRI MATAJI !

 

Manipulation in Shri Mataji's Discourses is a matter which should be opposed by all of us, the dedicated devotees of The Supreme Being.

 

Shri Mataji has exposed many fake Gurus & Traditions in many discourses, thousands a times. Of the same, there's a series named "Revelations" that contains Discourses delivered by Shri Mataji in 70s. These lectures had many exposures and all those things necessary to be conveyed to the seekers, but unfortunately some so-called Yogis have used there Enlightemed(?) Intellect to work on Shri Mataji's tapes resulting in all the exposures to zero voice.

 

THIS IS A CLEAR SLAP ON THE FACE OF DEDICATED SAHAJA YOGIS WHO'RE DARING TAKE SHRI MATAJI'S VOICE TO SEEKERS OF TRUTH. WE'RE TRYING THE WORLD TO BE CONVEYED THE MESSAGE OF SHRI ADI SHAKTI'S INCARNATION & THESE GREAT YOGIS ARE KNITTING MANY NICE(?) NETS TO FAIL OUR PROGRAMME. RATHER THAN DECLARING SHRI ADISHAKTI'S ADVENT THEY SAY "SINCE SHRI MATAJI HAS DONE HARD LABOUR TO ATTAIN SELF REALIZATION, WE, THE SEEKERS, CAN GET IT SO EASILY!!!"

 

INSTEAD OF DENOUNCING ALL THE FAKEHOOD BEEN CARRIED BY INDIANS SINCE APOCHES, THEY SCARE THE NEW ENERGETIC YOGIS & TRY TO KEEP THEM FROM ANNOUNCING THE LAST JUDGEMENT & SHRI MATAJI'S INCARNATION AND DENOUNCING ALL THE FAKEHOOD LIKE BAD GURUS, TRADITIONS ETC. THEY TRY TO THREATEN THE NEW YOGIS SAYING "NEVER DECLARE SHRI MATAJI AS ADISHAKTI BEFORE PUBLIC!!! NEVER TELL THE PEOPLE WHAT SNAKE (GURU) THEY'VE WORN AS NECKLACE. DON'T PUT LIGHT ON WHAT NONSENSICAL THINGS THEY'RE DOING FOR AGES AS RELIGIOUS RITUALS. DON'T PUT LIGHT ON THEIR GURUS, DON'T TELL THEIR GURUS/MEANS OF SEEKING ARE BAD."

 

ALL THIS MODUS-OPERANDI SHOWS NOTHING BUT A VERY TIMID NATURE THAT YOGIS CAN NEVER HAVE !

 

ALL GREAT SAINTS, PROPHETS & INCARNATIONS HAVE FIRMLY DENOUNCED THE NONSENSICAL RELIGIOUS ATTITUDE OF PEOPLE. EVEN IF THEY HAD TO PART WITH THEIR LIVES FOR THE SAKE OF IT.

 

AND WE, VVIP PROTECTED SAHAJA YOGIS, ARE SO BRAVE(?) THAT WE DECLARE SHRI MATAJI AS JUST A SAINT OR A SPIRITUAL LEADER.

 

MOREOVER, AT MANY TIMES, CORRECT SHRI MATAJI WHEN SHE EXPOSES SOMETHING THAT'S FAKE.

 

WE MUST LOOSE ALL THESE COWARDICE TEMPARAMENT OR WE'RE NOT GOING TO ESTABLISH OURSELVES IN ANY KINGDOM OF THE SUPREME.

 

I, AS A SAHAJA YOGI, REQUEST YOU TO KINDLY TAKE A STRICT ACTION AGAINST SUCH A CRIME THAT CAN'T BE EXPLAINED. I CAN'T SAY WHY THEY WENT SO BRAVE(?) THAT THE SENSE THAT SHRI MATAJI IS SHRI ADI SHAKTI & HAS REPAIRED MANY EVILS IN PAST, THEY LOST.

 

WRITING TO YOU, I'M IN GRIEF AS I'M A DEVOTEE TO SHRI ADISHAKTI.

 

ASPIRING A PROMPT-N-EFFECTIVE ACTION & ATTENTION,

YOURS SAHAJA YOGI BROTHER,

 

DR.NITIN KHANDELWAL, UJJAIN SAHAJA YOGA YUVA SHAKTI, UJJAIN, M.P., INDIA.

 

 

 

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shriadishakti , " Dr.Nitin Khandelwal "

<dr_nitin_khandelwal> wrote:

> || JAI SHRI MATAJI ||

>

> Dear Shri Jagbir Singh Ji, JAI SHRI MATAJI !

>

> Manipulation in Shri Mataji's Discourses is a matter which should

> be opposed by all of us, the dedicated devotees of The Supreme

> Being.

>

> Shri Mataji has exposed many fake Gurus & Traditions in many

> discourses, thousands a times. Of the same, there's a series

> named " Revelations " that contains Discourses delivered by Shri

> Mataji in 70s. These lectures had many exposures and all those

> things necessary to be conveyed to the seekers, but unfortunately

> some so-called Yogis have used there Enlightemed(?) Intellect to

> work on Shri Mataji's tapes resulting in all the exposures to zero

> voice.

>

> THIS IS A CLEAR SLAP ON THE FACE OF DEDICATED SAHAJA YOGIS WHO'RE

> DARING TAKE SHRI MATAJI'S VOICE TO SEEKERS OF TRUTH. WE'RE TRYING

> THE WORLD TO BE CONVEYED THE MESSAGE OF SHRI ADI SHAKTI'S

> INCARNATION & THESE GREAT YOGIS ARE KNITTING MANY NICE(?) NETS TO

> FAIL OUR PROGRAMME. RATHER THAN DECLARING SHRI ADISHAKTI'S ADVENT

> THEY SAY " SINCE SHRI MATAJI HAS DONE HARD LABOUR TO ATTAIN SELF

> REALIZATION, WE, THE SEEKERS, CAN GET IT SO EASILY!!! "

>

> INSTEAD OF DENOUNCING ALL THE FAKEHOOD BEEN CARRIED BY INDIANS

> SINCE APOCHES, THEY SCARE THE NEW ENERGETIC YOGIS & TRY TO KEEP

> THEM FROM ANNOUNCING THE LAST JUDGEMENT & SHRI MATAJI'S

> INCARNATION AND DENOUNCING ALL THE FAKEHOOD LIKE BAD GURUS,

> TRADITIONS ETC. THEY TRY TO THREATEN THE NEW YOGIS SAYING " NEVER

> DECLARE SHRI MATAJI AS ADISHAKTI BEFORE PUBLIC!!! NEVER TELL THE

> PEOPLE WHAT SNAKE (GURU) THEY'VE WORN AS NECKLACE. DON'T PUT

> LIGHT ON WHAT NONSENSICAL THINGS THEY'RE DOING FOR AGES AS

> RELIGIOUS RITUALS. DON'T PUT LIGHT ON THEIR GURUS, DON'T TELL

> THEIR GURUS/MEANS OF SEEKING ARE BAD. "

>

> ALL THIS MODUS-OPERANDI SHOWS NOTHING BUT A VERY TIMID NATURE THAT

> YOGIS CAN NEVER HAVE !

>

> ALL GREAT SAINTS, PROPHETS & INCARNATIONS HAVE FIRMLY DENOUNCED

> THE NONSENSICAL RELIGIOUS ATTITUDE OF PEOPLE. EVEN IF THEY HAD TO

> PART WITH THEIR LIVES FOR THE SAKE OF IT.

>

> AND WE, VVIP PROTECTED SAHAJA YOGIS, ARE SO BRAVE(?) THAT WE

> DECLARE SHRI MATAJI AS JUST A SAINT OR A SPIRITUAL LEADER.

>

> MOREOVER, AT MANY TIMES, CORRECT SHRI MATAJI WHEN SHE EXPOSES

> SOMETHING THAT'S FAKE.

>

> WE MUST LOOSE ALL THESE COWARDICE TEMPARAMENT OR WE'RE NOT GOING

> TO ESTABLISH OURSELVES IN ANY KINGDOM OF THE SUPREME.

>

> I, AS A SAHAJA YOGI, REQUEST YOU TO KINDLY TAKE A STRICT ACTION

> AGAINST SUCH A CRIME THAT CAN'T BE EXPLAINED. I CAN'T SAY WHY THEY

> WENT SO BRAVE(?) THAT THE SENSE THAT SHRI MATAJI IS SHRI ADI

> SHAKTI & HAS REPAIRED MANY EVILS IN PAST, THEY LOST.

>

> WRITING TO YOU, I'M IN GRIEF AS I'M A DEVOTEE TO SHRI ADISHAKTI.

>

> ASPIRING A PROMPT-N-EFFECTIVE ACTION & ATTENTION,

> YOURS SAHAJA YOGI BROTHER,

>

> DR.NITIN KHANDELWAL, UJJAIN SAHAJA YOGA YUVA SHAKTI, UJJAIN, M.P.,

> INDIA.

>

>

 

 

 

Dear Nitinji,

 

i understand your natural concern of Shri Mataji's tapes being

edited without authorization, a concern that many share if indeed

that is the case. However, as Zen Yogi pointed out, there may be a

legitimate reason for this. i for one would not like to condemn

unless there is proof of foul play. Moreover, i do not know what the

extend of such censorship is as, if my memory serves me well, there

were only a handful of false gurus there were mentioned in the 70s -

Rajneesh, Muktananda, Pope, Archbishop of Canterbury. (Anyone able

to expand this list?)

 

So Nitin, we have to wait for confirmation and follow ZY suggestion

that you contact the Indian collective about this matter. This would

be the best course of action.

 

Regarding your other concern of instructions to new SYs:

 

1. NEVER DECLARE SHRI MATAJI AS ADISHAKTI BEFORE PUBLIC!!!

 

Shri Mataji has clearly told SYs that Her Advent be declared. There

is no question about this. Even when She awakens the kundalini of

the public during self-realization programs the seekers know who She

is. I think we have heard Her saying this for the last two decades

at public programs:

 

" Now ask, MOTHER, ARE YOU THE HOLY GHOST? "

 

Maybe the Indian collective you are talking about never heard Her

saying:

 

" Aur puchoh, MATAJI, AAP ADI SHAKTI HAI? "

 

i have seen Her asking Indian seekers at public programs the same

question as She awakened their kundalini. Why this contradiction and

confusion regarding what to tell the public? And who sets the rules

as to who is told the truth ............ and after how many weeks?

i quote Alex who wrote a scathing letter addressed to all SYs

regarding this lingering hypocrisy and deceit:

 

" It is astonishing that the sahaja yogis, who believe Shri Mataji to

be the savior of humanity prophecied by many religious scriptures,

have not the conviction to promote her to the world openly, honestly

and unashamedly as that. Promotion of the savior will draw more

serious attention from many more people than do the current vague

claims about stress relief and peace of mind. This lack of

conviction speaks volumes and is the same reason they fail to

respond to those who challenge SY. You simply can't be one thing and

then attempt to portray yourself as another - no matter how clever

you are, it shows and people see it very clearly. This is called

hypocrisy. It indicates the vast majority of sahaja yogis are in a

state of denial.

 

On the premise that Shri Mataji is indeed the Adi Shakti, on what

basis do the sahaja yogis take it upon themselves to discriminate as

to whom is delivered the message of her present incarnation and by

what convoluted process that message is selectively delivered? To

take upon themselves to make such discriminations is an expression

of an elitist, missionary culture motivated by power and authority

over others. The message must be very plain and simple if every

person on the planet is to be afforded the opportunity to draw their

own conclusions about the goddess incarnate. Why do the sahaja yogis

make something so simple so complicated?. Why are they doing so poor

a job in telling the world of Shri Mataji, when as the goddess she

will surely stand and be recognised as the reality they claim she is?

 

My parting word is that like it or not, Shri Mataji and her sahaja

yogis must face the issues presented by those who challenge them.

Intelligent response is required and what remains to be seen is

whether they are capable of this. The longer they avoid it, the more

SY will be clearly identified to be lacking in credibility and its

members in integrity. The more they will appear to be a cultish

throw-back to the dark ages. I recommend the sahaja yogis today

change their whole approach and start promoting SY as what it is - a

religion focussed around a personality who has claimed, and is

understood by them, to be the Adi Shakti, divine mother of the

universe. This is, after all, the year of exposure for SY.

 

May truth prevail.

 

Alex "

 

 

2. NEVER TELL THE PEOPLE WHAT SNAKE (GURU) THEY'VE WORN AS

NECKLACE. DON'T PUT LIGHT ON WHAT NONSENSICAL THINGS THEY'RE DOING

FOR AGES AS RELIGIOUS RITUALS. DON'T PUT LIGHT ON THEIR GURUS, DON'T

TELL THEIR GURUS/MEANS OF SEEKING ARE BAD.

 

Nitinji, we have to respect new seekers and not insult their egos by

stomping on their gurus. Anyone will feel hurt if, wishing to learn

about Shri Mataji, is told right off that they were fools to follow

false gurus. The question you must always ask yourself before

admonishing these newcomers is: " Which distorted religious tradition

or false spiritual path were you blindly following in ignorance

before meeting the Adi Shakti? "

 

jagbir

[Guest guest]

shriadishakti , " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org> wrote:

>

> Regarding your other concern of instructions to new SYs:

>

> 1. NEVER DECLARE SHRI MATAJI AS ADISHAKTI BEFORE PUBLIC!!!

>

> Shri Mataji has clearly told SYs that Her Advent be declared.

> There is no question about this. Even when She awakens the

> kundalini of the public during self-realization programs the

> seekers know who She is. I think we have heard Her saying this for

> the last two decades at public programs:

>

> " Now ask, MOTHER, ARE YOU THE HOLY GHOST? "

>

> Maybe the Indian collective you are talking about never heard Her

> saying:

>

> " Aur puchoh, MATAJI, AAP ADI SHAKTI HAI? "

>

> i have seen Her asking Indian seekers at public programs the same

> question as She awakened their kundalini. Why this contradiction

> and confusion regarding what to tell the public? And who sets the

> rules as to who is told the truth ............ and after how

> many weeks? i quote Alex who wrote a scathing letter addressed to

> all SYs regarding this lingering hypocrisy and deceit:

>

> " It is astonishing that the sahaja yogis, who believe Shri Mataji

> to be the savior of humanity prophecied by many religious

> scriptures, have not the conviction to promote her to the world

> openly, honestly and unashamedly as that. Promotion of the savior

> will draw more serious attention from many more people than do the

> current vague claims about stress relief and peace of mind. This

> lack of conviction speaks volumes and is the same reason they fail

> to respond to those who challenge SY. You simply can't be one

> thing and then attempt to portray yourself as another - no matter

> how clever you are, it shows and people see it very clearly. This

> is called hypocrisy. It indicates the vast majority of sahaja

> yogis are in a state of denial.

>

> On the premise that Shri Mataji is indeed the Adi Shakti, on what

> basis do the sahaja yogis take it upon themselves to discriminate

> as to whom is delivered the message of her present incarnation and

> by what convoluted process that message is selectively delivered?

> To take upon themselves to make such discriminations is an

> expression of an elitist, missionary culture motivated by power

> and authority over others. The message must be very plain and

> simple if every person on the planet is to be afforded the

> opportunity to draw their own conclusions about the goddess

> incarnate. Why do the sahaja yogis make something so simple so

> complicated?. Why are they doing so poor a job in telling the

> world of Shri Mataji, when as the goddess she will surely stand

> and be recognised as the reality they claim she is?

>

> My parting word is that like it or not, Shri Mataji and her sahaja

> yogis must face the issues presented by those who challenge them.

> Intelligent response is required and what remains to be seen is

> whether they are capable of this. The longer they avoid it, the

> more SY will be clearly identified to be lacking in credibility

> and its members in integrity. The more they will appear to be a

> cultish throw-back to the dark ages. I recommend the sahaja yogis

> today change their whole approach and start promoting SY as what

> it is - a religion focussed around a personality who has claimed,

> and is understood by them, to be the Adi Shakti, divine mother of

> the universe. This is, after all, the year of exposure for SY.

>

> May truth prevail.

>

> Alex "

>

>

 

" Perhaps we do not realize it, but when we say we are Sahaja Yogis

you have to know that to be a Sahaja Yogi how much you should be

with the truth of Sahaja Yoga. . . .

 

It is a tremendous task and for that if you are the people who have

to fight it, you have to understand it to its full extent and also

understand where you strand for it. How much you have to improve

yourself? Because you are the people who have t take Sahaja Yoga to

that position where it has to reach. As far as I am concerned, I

have nothing to do anymore. I have done it. Now it is for you to

receive, you have to imbibe into it and you have to change the whole

thing. This is your job and that is why it is a serious matter. . . .

 

This is the greatest of the greatest things, which can happen to

anyone that you know. Also you know, this is the greatest happening

which was prophesied long time back as the Last Judgment. You know

that this is the way you are going to be judged. So we have to work

very hard. We have to work. . . .

 

I am so anxious. Do not make yourself a small person. Have a bigger

vision. Have bigger ideas because now you belong to the bigger

thing, the biggest of all, the Primordial, the highest - to the

Virata! If you realize your importance then you will work it out. "

 

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

November 18, 1979

[Guest guest]

shriadishakti , " Dr.Nitin Khandelwal "

<dr_nitin_khandelwal> wrote:

>

> || JAI SHRI MATAJI ||

>

> Dear Sahaja Yogis of the Universe, JAI SHRI MATAJI !!

>

> This is a One Hundred Percent truth that Sahaja Yogis MUST DECLARE

> SHRI ADISHAKTI'S ADVENT & THE LAST JUDGEMENT. BESIDES THIS, ALL

> THE FAKEHOOD MUST BE DENOUNCED & EXPOSED TO THE SEEKERS, BUT

> UNFORTUNATELY WE'VE GOT SOME GREAT YOGIS WHO NOT ONLY AVOID IT

> THEMSELVES, BUT ALSO KEEP NEW YOGIS AWAY FROM THIS TRUTH. WE, AS

> SINCERELY DEDICATED YOGIS MUST OPPOSE THIS SCARY BEHAVIOR & SHOULD

> BRAVELY DO WHAT SHRI MATAJI HAS INSTRUCTED US TO DO.

>

>

 

Dear Nitinji and all SYs,

 

Shri Mataji has announced that " Sahaja Yogis have a momentous

responsibility at this crucial time in human history. They have to

spread Sahaja Yoga in all the parts of the world by written and

spoken word. " And Shri Mataji is so concerned and serious that She

has created a new WORLD COUNCIL FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF SAHAJA YOGA.

It is a brilliant move that will dramatically turn an apparently

lifeless and lost end-game into a thunderous victory over

overwhelming odds.

 

The following world leaders have been entrusted with this crucially

important task:

 

1. Rajesh Shah

3. Gregoire de Kalbermatten

3. Guido Lanza

4. David Spiro

5. Vijay Nalgirkar

6. Manoj Kumar

7. Eduardo Marino

8. Wolfgang Hackl

9. Majid Golpour

10. Phillip Zeiss

11. Derek Lee

12. Arneau de Kalbermatten

13. Sergei Perezhogni

14. Nese Algan

15. Ivan Tan

16. Avinash Nichkawde

17. Rodger Akgibe

18. Karan Khurana

19. Alex Henshaw

 

 

But, honestly, what are the options left for them? For the last

three decades various leaders and self-appointed local chieftains

have had countless brainstorming sessions, exploring nearly every

option and venue to spread Sahaja Yoga. All have failed miserably.

 

If they are again going to put old wine in new bottles and package

it under some exotic-sounding project or name, a jaded approach that

does not impress the intelligent anymore, they are definitely going

to fail again - no question about this.

 

The problem is that they have failed to comprehend the simple fact

that the subtle system makes as much sense to 99% of humanity -

Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists and Hindus - as quantum physics

to an African pygmy. The masses give two hoots to anyone trying to

enlighten them because all they are interested in is their holy

scriptures and God.

 

That leaves SYs with 1% of seekers who, unfortunately, have a wide

choice of schools, teachers and paths from all traditions. i have no

idea how many of them are actually looking for subtle system and

kundalini awakening, a niche that we are trying so desperately to

exploit. And even here there is stiff competition - our empty public

programs given free of charge are evidence of utter failure. i am

talking about FREE lessons! (i wish SYs will stop deluding

themselves that if money was charged we would be more successful.

Have they ever thought of customers asking their money back?)

 

So what are the chances of world leaders succeeding now when they

have failed so miserably in past? What choices and venues are left

for them, something they have never exploited so far? What can they

do now to radically advance Sahaja Yoga as the great Adi Shakti

recedes even further and prepares Her final farewell?

 

The answer is that we should just tell the truth that the Adi Shakti

of the Hindus/Buddhists/Sikhs has come to announce the Christian

Last Judgment and Muslim Al-Qiyamah - it is just that simple. Then,

and only then will this visionary message make sense and be

successfully addressed:

 

" The world is in turmoil today. People everywhere are anxious about

the future. What they need is the soothing, uniting, elevating

spiritual message of Sahaja Yoga. They have to be enabled to

experience " Self-Realization " and thereby attain inner

transformation. Only then they will begin to regard all human beings

as members of one large human family regardless of their race,

culture etc. Only then will they discard hatred and violence. "

 

 

Jai Shri Mataji,

 

jagbir