Guest guest Posted December 23, 2003 Report Share Posted December 23, 2003 -- In shriadishakti , Mpc5995@a... wrote: > Just wondering if anyone can speak to why the Om symbol is often > pictured above the sahasrara. > Hi Matt, i think the symbol " OM " is wrongly pictured above, rather than in the Sahasrara where the seat of God-Almighty resides. Probably OM looks better on top of the head, rather than inside, for the sake of simple comprehension. Since the Sahasrara is the Kingdom of God then there is where you will find OM i.e. within your own being. According to Shri Mataji: " The nature of the Spirit is that it is an universal being within every individual. As there is one God Almighty His projection on every human heart is the same, but the projection of the Spirit varies because of the different types of projecters. When this Spirit, which is the source of joy and truth, is connected through the Kundalini the human attention becomes enlightened. Thus one knows the absolute truth on our central nervous system and becomes a joyous collective being. The spirit is projected in the heart but the seat of God Almighty is above the fontanel bone area, above the apex of the head. After this living force of Kundalini is connected to the all pervading Divine power within a human being, it starts developing the spirituality of a person. One touches the spirituality within oneself and grows into another dimension, the fourth one. Thus a saintly and wise personality develops. This personality is the one which is unfolding itself naturally, spontaneously (Sahaja), but also, by knowing how to handle this all-pervading power through the Knowledge of purity (Shuddha Vidya), one can evolve in a much faster way into that new dimension. Once the Spirit starts shining fully in one's attention one actually becomes enlightened in the sense that one can see for oneself that one becomes one's own guide, one becomes one's own master. Then you don't need any guide, but you are the master of yourself. In the past this process was limited to one or to very few persons but now a phenomena to allow en-masse realisation was discovered about twenty years ago. " > And is the inner om sound = god realization? > According to Himalayan Academy the " mantram [mantra] Aum denotes God as the Primal Sound. This sound can be heard as the sound of one's own nerve system, and meditators and mystics hear it daily, like the sound made by an electrical transformer or a swarm of bees, or a thousand vinas playing in the distance. It is a strong, inner experience, one that yogis hold with great reverence. The meditator is taught to inwardly transform this sound into the inner light which lights up ones' thoughts, and to bask in this blissful consciousness of light. Pranava is also known as the sound of the nadanadi sakti. Hearing it one draws near to God Consciousness. When we are living in the lower chakras, or when the world too strongly dominates our mind, this sound may, for a time, not be heard. But it returns as awareness withdraws, as the mind becomes perfectly quiescent, silent, still. Listen for this sound in your quietest moments and you will learn to recognize it as a daily encounter with the Divine that lives within all men, within all creatures, within all existence. Aum Namasivaya! " God Almighty (Brahmna) is absolute Silence. i believe that this inner om sound is self-hypnosis, a self-delusion brought forth by the endless, mesmerizing repetition of the word OM. According to www.realization.org " some skeptics say that the humming heard by experienced meditators is actually a form of self-induced epilepsy. " Endless repetition is used effectively to dull the mind. In extreme cases it can used to brainwash the young into religious retards. An article by staff reporter Peter Fritsch of The Wall Street Journal provides an excellent example how through repetition and rote- learning of the Koran Islamic fanaticism is used to breed jihad warriors: " The battle for Arshad's heart and mind may be over, however. The 11-year-old, who doesn't offer his last name, rises each morning at 4 to pray and recite the Koran at the Central Martyrs madrasah in the Pakistani capital, Islamabad. In his village near Peshawar, there is no public school. His parents paid the equivalent of $2 a month, a large sum in Pakistan, to put his older brother through a private high school, but he has yet to find work years after graduation, Arshad says. " The madrasah is free " - and includes room and board - " so why waste money in such a way? " he asks. Following typical madrasah rules, the boy hasn't seen his parents in nine months and probably won't have any contact with them for at least another few years. Arshad has learned little about the modern world. A visitor asks him whether a man has ever walked on the moon. " This isn't possible, " the boy answers. What is two times two? Silence. Eager to impress, though, he announces that dinosaurs exist: " The Jewish and American infidels have created these beasts to devour Muslims. " With Afghanistan largely in ruins, and the Taliban having specifically decimated the country's schools, many Afghan refugee children join Pakistani youngsters seeking education in Pakistan. But Pakistan, the people, will spend only about 2% of its gross national output on public education this year, one of the lowest rates in the world, according to the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization. Pakistan, as a matter of law, promises children a free education, but in many places, public schools starved for resources barely function. The nation's hermetic madrasahs fill most of this enormous gap. They are not only a potential source of future jihad warriors, but also a bulwark against the evolution of secular institutions in business, government and other areas. " osint/message/10877 This indoctrination technique of constant repetition - whether " Ram, Ram " , " Hari, Hari " or any other deity - is condemned by Shri Mataji. I particularly remember this American Tour speech of 16th Sept. 1983 blasting the false gurus and religious institutions who make fools out of the ignorant masses. For the sake of keeping to the essence of Matt's inquiry I have taken only three paragraphs of a rather long talk at at C.G. Jung Society's Hall, New York, U.S.A: " You just give somebody a name, go on repeating this name. Now they give a name, repeat the name of ''Rama''. Now there is no connection, you go on pressing on your sympathetic nervous system. Now 'Rama'' could be a servant dead somewhere, he just enters into you and you start jumping. You start jumping like a frog. Some people came to my programme they were just jumping like a frog. So I said " Why are you jumping like a frog'? They said, " Our guru said when the Kundalini rises then you jump like a frog " . I said " Now are you going to become a frog or an earthworm? " Use your brains! That's the problem, you see, with all intelligence when it comes to their evolution, to the living process, they just don't want to use their brains. Whatever these gurus tell them they are willing to do and do whatever they like. Like another guru (Sai Baba) is there who brings out diamonds this, that from the air. It's all jugglery, it's absolutely jugglery. Now what I'm saying, " what is the interest of God in diamonds, what is His interest? Why would He give you diamonds? " You see diamonds you can always go and buy from somewhere. But people don't think. You know he's very popular, he's very popular with affluent people. Why should they ask for diamonds? I can understand Indians but he's not bothered about Indians so much. But he gave a diamond ring to a gentleman who was a very, very rich man. So I said " Why did he give you a diamond ring ? He should have given it to your driver. And if he's such a diamond ring fellow, why doesn't he solve our problems in India, our poverty, completely? " So this is what one has to think openly, with open mind you can save all these people from these cults and sects. Now the best of part of it is that I'm also called as a sect, that's the best part of it. From the year 1970 I'm the lone' person who's been 'fighting and fighting' these people who have suffered from it, I'm the person who has been telling everyone about them. Their nature, what they have been, how they practice this, how they have managed you, what has happened to you,-everything. Despite that, the shallowness, or the naiveté we can say of the Western people, now they call me also a sect. Now this is the limit! I said now to call me as a sect would be something like calling Christ as Hitler. I mean I can't understand how these two things can go together, a person who has been fighting them alone. " > Also the bliss that was described in jagbir's post, ig: > " 3. Shri Sudhasarabhi-varsini (106th) She rains the quintessence > of nectar. The devotee feels incomparable bliss in this state. > Here culminates the kundalini-sadhana. > > 4. Shri Kulamrtaika-rasika (90th): She relishes the nectar of > Kula. In the internal discipline of Kaula-Marga, Sri-Lalita who > resides in Muladhara-Chakra as Kundalini is roused by Pranayama, > and taken to Sahasrara-Chakra in the head where the devotee feels > great bliss which spreads all over the body and mind. > That bliss is the Amrta mentioned here. Kalyanananda Bharati > divides this name into two names Kula and Amrtaika-Rasika. Kula > means chaste lady Amrtaika-rasika means one who enjoys Advaita- > Sthiti. Kula means the triad Mata (measurer), Manam, (measure) and > Meyam (measured). " > > Can this bliss originate in other centers and then spread out over > the body? and what stage is this and how is it relevant to God > realization? > Yes, bliss (anand) may originate at other centres and spread to the rest of the body but the primary source is the Sahasrara, the seat of God Almighty. There are just too many quotes of Shri Mataji regarding bliss and how it is relevant to God-realization. i leave this to you, Matt, to judge for yourself this subtle knowledge and daily experience that religious masses, blindly following ignorant priests and pandits, know nothing about. Only those who seek God within themselves will comprehend the following quotes of Shri Mataji on bliss and its relationship to self-realization and God Almighty: " Now in English language there are no names given to joys, there is only one word joy and I find it sometimes difficult to describe the different kinds of joy that you can have at different levels of our evolution. But when you get to your Sahasrara the joy is called Nirananda. Now " Nira " is my name, you know that. " Ananda " means " joy " . " Nira " means that there is nothing else but joy. There is complete joy, no reaction, nothing - just submerged in joy. " Shri Mataji " Paramatma is the enjoyer, and therefore all should desire Him. We should enjoy the God, who is the enjoyer of every thing. If we start enjoying Him, what else do we need to enjoy? We should enjoy His bliss. What is God's creation? What a beautiful world He has made? How many things He has given to us? Now we have become Sahaja yogis, God has given this shakti in us; now we can know our Atma, and can recognise the Spirit in others. How much unending grace God is showering on us? - with these thoughts you should grow in inner happiness. If you start enjoying the God like this, then you will find that your heart is growing and still more growing and you feel as if it is encompassing entire creation. " Shri Mataji " When this Kundalini rises it connects you to the all-pervading power, which is vital and which is an ocean of knowledge as well as an ocean of bliss. After the awakening of Kundalini, you experience many coincidence, which are miraculous and extremely blissful. " Shri Mataji " Once we are connected with that force, it protects us. This divine power is the ocean of knowledge, is the ocean of miracles, the ocean of bliss and the ocean of love, it is the ocean of compassion, but above all, it is the ocean of forgiveness. " Shri Mataji " So, you come to a stage where you develop this 'Niranand'. And, this 'Niranand' you develop when you are absolutely the Spirit. In 'Niranand' state there's no duality left-is Adwaita, (without duality), is one personality. That is, you are completely integrated and the joy is not anymore dented - it's complete. It hasn't got happiness and a sorrow aspect, but is just Joy. The Joy is not that you laugh loud, the Joy is not that you are always smiling. No. Is the stillness, the quietude within your Self, the peace, of your being, of your Spirit, that asserts itself into vibrations which you feel, that when you feel that peace, you feel like light of the sun, the whole rays of that beauty spreading.'' Shri Mataji " The world needs people who have been bestowed with this peaceful, blissful joy in their hearts, who, later on, make others the same way and form a planned or organised society, or a group, or a new race, which enjoys this peaceful state of being. In this peaceful state we are not running away from the society, we are not denouncing anybody, but we are now like a baked pot which cannot absorb any marks on it any more because it is fully baked. So we become very mature people of awareness which cannot be dented, which cannot be spoiled, which cannot be tarnished by any other negative force. Thus, the establishment of global peace can only come through people who have achieved this state in modern times which is very special and I call it a blossom time. In the Bible, it is described as the Last Judgement, also in the Koran it is called as Qiyamah (the resurrection time). Otherwise, it is artificial to believe that human beings forming a group or an organisation that can create this global peace. The time has come for many people to get their Self-Realisation and I'm sure the day will come when these newly born, in the realm of Divine love, will spread peace and also create global peace. 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