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January 15, 2004

Jai shree mataji,

Dear Brothers and Sisters,

I have a question to ask on this Forum. I am working with

multinational Telecom Company here in Delhi. Though I have been trying

with full of desire to talk about Sahaja Yoga one to one in company,

and a no. of people have got their realization too. But they are not

getting into it, what I mean to say is that they are just like keeping

photograph on their work table, some may be doing meditation at home

if they get time (what they say). None of them go to any center here.

But that's not the question, this is their desire I cannot force them.

What I am Desiring is going to the HR VP and talk to him about a self

realization program with introduction on Sahaja Yoga with help of

other Sahaja Yogis in Delhi. So I would like to get some comments and

suggestion about how to present to the HR so that he allows me to

carry out such a program in office and if possible some session on

meditation if people willing.

Shree Nirmala Devi Namo Namah!

With warm regards.

Rajeev Singh

January 20, 2004

shriadishakti , " Rajeev Singh " <rksingh@l...>

wrote:

> Jai shree mataji,

> Dear Brothers and Sisters,

>

> I have a question to ask on this Forum. I am working with

> multinational Telecom Company here in Delhi. Though I have been

> trying with full of desire to talk about Sahaja Yoga one to one in

> company, and a no. of people have got their realization too. But

> they are not getting into it, what I mean to say is that they are

> just like keeping photograph on their work table, some may be

> doing meditation at home if they get time (what they say). None of

> them go to any center here.

>

> But that's not the question, this is their desire I cannot force

> them. What I am Desiring is going to the HR VP and talk to him

> about a self realization program with introduction on Sahaja Yoga

> with help of other Sahaja Yogis in Delhi. So I would like to get

> some comments and suggestion about how to present to the HR so

> that he allows me to carry out such a program in office and if

> possible some session on meditation if people willing.

>

> Shree Nirmala Devi Namo Namah!

>

> With warm regards.

> Rajeev Singh

>

Dear Rajeev,

Notwithstanding my admiration for your zeal and energy to spread

Sahaja Yoga, you may benefit to know that we SYs may have been

groping and stumbling in the dark for the last 30 years. Despite all

the energy spent brainstorming - which lately has been rumored

responsible for the devastating landslides in the Philippines - we

have failed to find the path to success.

The glacial pace at which we SYs adapted to a rapidly changing world

left us far behind and stranded deep in the fjord. I am not blaming

SYs for the predicament for they were only following orders and

directions of the elite trackers. When you are reduced to

mere 'mules' carrying supplies and following the expedition

leaders, disasters happen. You refrain from finding solutions and

creativity ceases because that is the sole responsibility of the

team leaders. No one will listen to the few complaining that the

expedition is veering off-course. The collective rumor going round

the camps at night initiated by those behind the much-publicized

expedition are: " Who are these pesky troublemakers trying to

steal the glory? "

So we SYs are just here to follow instructions and dissent is a

cardinal sin. Try to be originally bold in ideas and the Inquisition

ensures excommunication, even if giving directions with irrefutable

evidence that it will lead everyone out of serious situation. Only

the chosen ones know by virtue of the simple fact that they were

chosen to lead ............... and know.

Now the 'excommunicated' few have suddenly realized that SYs are

hopelessly lost. i mean despite a brave face from the elite, the

more intelligent know that the situation is very grave. (So grave

that one has calculated that it will take another 6000 years, at the

present pace of progress, to cover a mere 1% of the distance. That

would be AD 8003!)

Those responsible for this decades-old off-course expedition are

still pretending, hypocritically, that the situation is under

control and salvation of humanity is just in sight. Don't believe

them. They are just holding compasses and pointing in all direction.

A few are just scratching their heads. Don't believe them when

they say a new era in now unfolding. Just judge from the vast

emptiness around you. To be brutally honest, they just have no clue

to lead us out of this dilemma.

Now i heard they are going to attend a World Council to chart the

course of action, something the upper echelon have been doing ever

since the expedition started. (You may be surprised to know that a

few famous leaders turned out to be embarrassing flops. Thus the

ideas of the present exclusive nobility may be failures of future

rejected pariahs. Remember Yogi Mahajan and his disastrous North

American foray that turned out to be an expensive stress management

fiasco?)

However i am a little bit confident they will succeed this time and

finally lead us out of wilderness. Why is this so? Well, they have

no choice but to at last tell the truth that it is the Last Judgment

and Al-Qiyamah. Maybe God Almighty and His Messengers may finally

respond to honesty.

jagbir

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March 9, 2004

shriadishakti , " SINGH, RAJEEV KUMAR (RAJEEV) "

<rksingh@l...> wrote:

> Jai Shri Mataji Dear Nitin Ji, Buket ji,

>

> Thanks for your valuable comments. My personal feeling is that the

> main job of the Sahaja Yogis today is to become instrument of love,

> to give realization to people. We can not force people to have

> their self realization, it all depends on the desire and seeking in

> them. So the way I have been working is to tell people about what

> subtle system is, what shri Kundalini is and what self realization

> means, what we really are. Once they get self realization, it

> depends on their desire to ascend in Sahaja Yoga. What I have

> observed is a very few people really understand what self

> realization is and continue after self realization.

>

> I have been following up with people because my feeling is if I

> call a person who got self realization and for some reasons he is

> not continuing and my just calling or talking helps him what's

> wrong in it. If people just take me casually that's also fine. So

> even if I keep on saying that this is the time of last judgment,

> until they get their self realization, it is of no use because

> emancipation of humanity can only be achieved through Self

> realization and meditation. Once a person starts settling in it

> they will automatically come to know who Shri Mataji is really. So

> I am announcing that this is time of last judgment or resurrection

> but not just to any body. When we go to give realization we have to

> tell a little bit about Sahaja yoga, what we are going to achieve

> (that is to become spirit), and we do talk about that Sahaja Yoga

> is not new, it is there in bible, Quran or Gita. We talk about

> the last judgment that your hands will speak, we do talk about cool

> breeze. That all is there but we have to understand one thing when

> we go to new people we have to keep in mind we are not talking to

> Sahaja yogis. This is my exp. of being in Sahaja Yoga. Also we meet

> people of different intellect so need to talk to them differently

> while objective remains the same which is self realization.

> Appreciate your valuable comments on this topic.

>

> Jai Shri Mataji!

>

> Rajeev Singh

>

Dear Rajeevji,

Thank you so much for this observation. Yes, very few understand what

self-realization is. Even most SYs do not REALLY understand it. Have

they realized their self? What is it actually? Can someone explain to

me what SYs really mean by that? All i know is that it connects us to

our Self. After that it is just Silence. The Self is beyond the grasp

of comprehension ............. way beyond. It is just Silence, the

thoughtless state that will unravel the mysteries of the Self. So how

do you explain the Self? Nobody has been able to do since time

immemorial and nobody ever can. It is your own personal experience

which takes a long time to manifest, the true goal being the

Nirvikalpa state and beyond. (How many SYs have achieved this level?)

So the layman has no idea what we SYs are talking about because we

ourselves have only a shallow understanding. All we can tell them

is: " Just take your self-realization. " People just do it out of

curiosity and finding nothing else but a waft of cool breeze,

incredible an experience we SYs make out of it, just leave and never

return. The cool breeze is just no big deal in this modern times.

By now a few million humans must have had their Self-realization. Why

have so minuscule a number stayed if they are truly onto something

miraculous or awe-inspiring? Why this dismal numbers for so much

effort by so many over so long? The answer is simple: we SYs make so

little effort to link self-realization and the cool breeze to the

Gita, Bible and Qur'an. In the first place few SYs have that type

of

knowledge so relevant to sustaining the interest of new seekers.

Instead they bewilder these intelligent seekers with a frightening

list of catches and then advice healing with a smorgasbord of cures.

We have no idea or have forgotten our own initial reaction to SYs

introducing us to Sahaja Yoga.

i still shudder at my unpleasant exposure to Sahaja Yoga. It was all

about catches, left-sidededness, right-sidededness, bhoots, baddhas,

good food for bad livers, taboo drinks for cheerful swadisthan and

all that spiritual diseases i would or have succumbed to. Who in the

right frame of mind would want to stay and learn more? If this is the

SY introduction to a world full of evil entities which intelligent

seeker would really want to continue? My wife and myself were afraid

those days, even with our children guiding us. We still are and never

want anyone to go through the same experience, experiences that are

repeated all over SY collectives. Are we reverting back to

conditioning rituals to fight off the demons of the Dark Ages?

Thus with this ingrained mentality is it any surprise that SYs not

only do not link the experiences to the Gita, Bible and Koran, but

also Mahdi, Kalki, Maitreya, Last Judgment and Resurrection? After

barely a few meetings most seekers just leave in boredom and

bewilderment. There is just no opportunity to tell them anything that

will make them come back. After all, these seekers have experienced

Sahaja Yoga to be just another B- yoga. And does any SY think they

will recommend it to their fiends?

But what truly stumps me is that SYs have this wishful attitude that

the religious masses are going to accept Sahaja Yoga just to get Self-

realization. Why should any Muslim, Hindu or Christian in the right

frame of mind accept Sahaja Yoga? For three decades SYs have been

pretending that the subtle system will. It has not worked, is not

working and never will.

It is just that they have failed to truly comprehend the depth and

vastness of Shri Mataji's advent on Earth. They have reduced Her

glory to that of a divine personality bringing the knowledge of the

subtle system. We can draw a parallel to that of Jesus' disciples

telling seekers that He is a divine personality who can teach great

carpentry skills. But these very courageous disciples braved death to

proclaim that He is the Son of God who resurrected Himself, and

Christianity flourished profusely. SYs, fearing public reaction, have

fled from performing their dharma but continue to use all sorts of

excuses to justify their actions ................. even though

public programs of the subtle system have failed time and again to

bring even mediocre gains.

Yet they refuse to try the only method never attempted on a

collective scale, i.e., telling the public that it is the Last

Judgment and Resurrection. All i can say is that their refusal is

based on decades-old imaginary fears of adverse public reaction, lack

of personal conviction, ignorance of their avowed duty to uphold the

dharma under any circumstance, and misguided faith that the subtle

system is the cure-all for mass enlightenment.

Announcing the Last Judgment and Resurrection is the easiest thing to

accomplish. All SYs have to do is give seekers the links to

www.adishakti.org or www.al-qiyamah.org. They can spend weeks or

months reading in detail Shri Mataji's Message to all humanity

and then decide for themselves. Those who believe will come forward

to get their self-realization. In future we SYs will not have to ask

people to get self-realization for a better spiritual life. The

Believers themselves will request self-realization to take part in

the Last Judgment and Resurrection. Those who know of this Golden Age

will not leave Sahaja Yoga because of their faith that at last they

are going to face their Maker. This is a far more compelling reason

and reward to lead a chaste and righteous life, one that will appeal

to Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Buddhist and others.

Our job as SYs is to let humanity know that it is the Last Judgment

and Resurrection. Say for example we announce it in some newspaper or

magazine and 100,000 read it. Whether they agree or not is immaterial

because those who hear Her Message will be subject to it. THEY WILL

BE SUBJECT TO THE LAST JUDGMENT! As Shri Mataji has told before

humans will easily justify themselves by claiming they were never

told about it. No one can be subject to the consequences of the Last

Judgment and Resurrection UNTIL and UNLESS they have been informed.

The Koran is very clear about this and so is the Bible. Thus it is

imperative that we let the rest of humankind know that Sahaja Yoga is

the Last Judgment and Resurrection.

Another important point we are missing is that the deepest religious

passion of Muslims, Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists and Sikhs are

addressed by the healing essence of Shri Mataji's Message. Not

only are their revered scriptures upheld but also their prophets.

Muslims thus have no objections to www.al-qiaymah.org because the

Koran is uncompromisingly upheld to declare Shri Mataji's message

of Al-Qiyamah. Likewise Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists and Sikhs

are receptive of www.adishakti.org because they are exposed to the

deepest secrets of their scriptures as expounded by the messengers of

God Almighty. The Adi Shakti of the Santana Dharma triumphs. So does

the Imam Mahdi of Islam, the Comforter of Christianity, the Messiah

of Judaism, the Maitreya of Buddhism and the Aykaa Mayee of Sikhism.

Despite all the vast potential to unite and galvanize the human race

with Shri Mataji's message of the Last Judgment and Resurrection,

SYs continue to spend prodigious amount of energy and time speaking

about the subtle system to a handful of seekers in otherwise empty

halls. And we have been doing this same routine for the last three

decades and have failed miserably, especially in the last few years.

It defies all logic and common sense to continue along this path of

proven failure. That is why all the excuses we give for lack of

progress is meaningless because we have never learnt from our

mistakes, less acknowledged them in the first place. Period!

jagbir

March 9, 2004

shriadishakti , " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org> wrote:

>

> Another important point we are missing is that the deepest

> religious passion of Muslims, Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists

> and Sikhs are addressed by the healing essence of Shri Mataji's

> Message. Not only are their revered scriptures upheld but also

> their prophets. Muslims thus have no objections to www.al-

> qiyamah.org because the Koran is uncompromisingly upheld to declare

> Shri Mataji's message of Al-Qiyamah. Likewise Jews, Christians,

> Hindus, Buddhists and Sikhs are receptive of www.adishakti.org

> because they are exposed to the deepest secrets of their scriptures

> as expounded by the messengers of God Almighty. The Adi Shakti of

> the Santana Dharma triumphs. So does the Imam Mahdi of Islam, the

> Comforter of Christianity, the Messiah of Judaism, the Maitreya of

> Buddhism and the Aykaa Mayee of Sikhism.

>

" And now, in the last quarter of the century, there is a renewed

interest in the esoteric, but this is of a more mature, spiritual

nature than was shown by the sensational spiritualism of the earlier

period. Esoteric thought, it seems, is not immune to a renewed surge

of energy and looks like being stimulated into a re-evaluation of its

beliefs, just at a time when the rest of humanity will have to

question theirs.

Through Alice Bailey, " The Tibetan " predicted that in the first

quarter of the 21st century there will be a restoration of the

Ancient Mysteries, which have been debased by Black Magic. These will

now be expressed at a higher level. This is part of the " Great Plan "

and will pave the way for an event described as " Externalization of

the Hierarchy " , when those on earth who are spiritually advanced will

work consciously with the brotherhood to help humanity.

The effect of this surge in our spiritual evolution is predicted to

be dramatic, especially for those who are unprepared. Such people

will resist the changes, clinging all the more desparately to their

materialictic values.

" The Mysteries will be restored in other ways also, for they contain

much besides which the Masonic rites can reveal or that religious

rituals and ceremonies can disclose … The Mysteries will restore

colour and music as they essentially are to the world … in such a

manner that the creative art of today will be to this new creative

art what a child's building of wooden blocks is to a great

cathedral such as Durham or Milan. The Mysteries, when restored, will

make real — in a sense incomprehensible to you at present —

the nature of religion, the purpose of science and the goal of

education. These are not what you think today ... "

Beyond these sensational claims of a world-wide re-awakening to the

Ageless Wisdom is the fundamental belief shared by many of the

esoteric and religious traditions that man must first demonstrate the

will to develop, before the benign forces — whether we imagine

them to be " Hidden Masters, " our own Higher Self or a Messiah —

are allowed to intervene to help us. "

Paul Roland, Revelation: Wisdom of the Ages,

Ulysses Press, 1995, p. 109-9

March 9, 2004

shriadishakti , " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org> wrote:

>

> Dear Rajeevji,

>

> Thank you so much for this observation. Yes, very few understand

> what self-realization is. Even most SYs do not REALLY understand

> it. Have they realized their self? What is it actually? Can someone

> explain to me what SYs really mean by that? All i know is that it

> connects us to our Self. After that it is just Silence. The Self is

> beyond the grasp of comprehension ............. way beyond. It

> is just Silence, the thoughtless state that will unravel the

> mysteries of the Self. So how do you explain the Self? Nobody has

> been able to do since time immemorial and nobody ever can. It is

> your own personal experience which takes a long time to manifest,

> the true goal being the Nirvikalpa state and beyond. (How many SYs

> have achieved this level?)

>

" Where mysticism has prevailed for centuries and centuries,

initiation has always been regarded as being most sacred. Divine

knowledge has never been taught in words, nor will it ever be done

so. The work of a mystic is not to teach with words but to tune those

who are open to that which is offered, so that the seeker becomes an

instrument of God. In other words, the mystic is not the player of

the instrument, but rather its tuner, and when tuned, the instrument

is then given into the hands of the Divine Player, whose playing

becomes more and more clearly the expression of Divine music. On this

path, there are no rules to follow, because every adept is like a

different instrument in the Divine symphony, but there is one basic

principle which applies to the manner of life of all concerned, and

that is sincerity in humility. Happiness, which is an unfoldment of

the inner self, comes as an expansion of consciousness, and one could

consequently say that the degree of advancement on the path is

indicated by the expansion of the horizon of the consciousness.

Similar to a most fruitful tree, which bends the more that its fruit

is abundant, in the same way the deeper the spiritual realization of

the adept, he humbler he becomes. The one who is pretentious gives no

fruit. The sincere initiate hardly mentions the word initiation, and

feels no need to convert others to the path, nor to seek recognition,

and if asked what is derived by spiritual attainment, will only

answer, to become better fitted for serving mankind. "

www.sufimovement.net

March 13, 2004