Guest guest Posted April 15, 2004 Report Share Posted April 15, 2004 Dear Jagbir, I cannot help seeing others checking the sites for the last judgement day. Prior to being a sahaja yogi, i had the experience of being in other movements. Some of it were under oath. Forgive me i cannot go on further. However, Lord Krishna and Jesus Christ is one. If you read an Autobiography of a Yogi, you can know it all.The bible, has been interpreted in terms of meditation. However vatican is quite reluctant to release it, maybe soon it will be out. This is the best i can do on The last Judgement Day. It is believed that during this time, Jesus christ, was tried. In terms of meditation during this time, the kundalini goes to the 6th chakra passes to the sahashara. The cheering of the angels and people are actually the when the energy passes the petals in the crown chakra. the cheers and joys are the qualities placed in these petals. Further, the resurrection is when the energy passes the sahashara and goes to above the whitelight. Above our sahashara we have three major chakras, but they are not so important now. Resurrection is when the kundalini passes to this white light and returns to the sahashara and then to agya and to the base chakra. This has been mention by mataji in one of her speeches, i believe in italy. Please check it out. The resurrection was from my own resources. I note that in most mataji speeches there are many hidden interpretations on meditation but I just cannot understand why she is not telling it out plain blank. I too am confuse on many things. Lastly, I apologise if i had offended anyone and hope i have not diverted from matajis teachings. Thank you. senan Tax Center - File online by April 15th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2004 Report Share Posted April 15, 2004 Dear Senan, No you haven't diverted anyone from Shri Matajis teachings.. believe so. Kundalini awakening is very very complex and subtle process. Shri Mataji can give us any length of explanations or hidden interpretations because She is the Master at it. But it only leads to further confusion for us, as you already mentioned, since it is something to be experienced and enjoyed rather than intellectualised and educated with our limited mind. So the main purpose of Shri Mataji's creation of Sahaja Yoga is to grant us the complete experience of Kundalini awakening/Resurrection and also tell us little bit about it's process. Ones we can grow in our meditation, to the maturity, we can understand those unexplained subtleties for ourselves or it might become completely unnecessary by then as you are dancing in the ocean of the joy of the Spirit / Almighty. Hope this helps. Jai Shri Mataji ajay shriadishakti , ustm <itsenan> wrote: > > Dear Jagbir, > > I cannot help seeing others checking the sites for the last judgement day. Prior to being a sahaja yogi, i had the experience of being in other movements. Some of it were under oath. Forgive me i cannot go on further. > > However, Lord Krishna and Jesus Christ is one. If you read an Autobiography of a Yogi, you can know it all.The bible, has been interpreted in terms of meditation. However vatican is quite reluctant to release it, maybe soon it will be out. > > This is the best i can do on The last Judgement Day. > > It is believed that during this time, Jesus christ, was tried. In terms of meditation during this time, the kundalini goes to the 6th chakra passes to the sahashara. > > The cheering of the angels and people are actually the when the energy passes the petals in the crown chakra. the cheers and joys are the qualities placed in these petals. > > Further, the resurrection is when the energy passes the sahashara and goes to above the whitelight. Above our sahashara we have three major chakras, but they are not so important now. > > Resurrection is when the kundalini passes to this white light and returns to the sahashara and then to agya and to the base chakra. This has been mention by mataji in one of her speeches, i believe in italy. Please check it out. The resurrection was from my own resources. > > I note that in most mataji speeches there are many hidden interpretations on meditation but I just cannot understand why she is not telling it out plain blank. I too am confuse on many things. > > Lastly, I apologise if i had offended anyone and hope i have not diverted from matajis teachings. > > Thank you. > > senan > > > > > > Tax Center - File online by April 15th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2004 Report Share Posted April 15, 2004 shriadishakti , " drkomandur " <drkomandur> wrote: > Dear Senan, > > No you haven't diverted anyone from Shri Matajis teachings.. > believe so. > > Kundalini awakening is very very complex and subtle process. Shri > Mataji can give us any length of explanations or hidden > interpretations because She is the Master at it. But it only > leads to further confusion for us, as you already mentioned, since > it is something to be experienced and enjoyed rather than > intellectualised and educated with our limited mind. > > So the main purpose of Shri Mataji's creation of Sahaja Yoga is to > grant us the complete experience of Kundalini awakening/ > Resurrection and also tell us little bit about it's process. Ones > we can grow in our meditation, to the maturity, we can understand > those unexplained subtleties for ourselves or it might become > completely unnecessary by then as you are dancing in the ocean of > the joy of the Spirit / Almighty. > > Hope this helps. > > Jai Shri Mataji > > ajay > > > Dear Ajay, i am in complete agreement to your brilliant explanation. Yes, the subtle system is just too complex and beyond even rudimentary comprehension. If any SY can prove to know more than 1% i am prepared to wager eating a standard saffron turban provided being mercifully allowed dipping it in my favorite brinjal/mint/tamarind chutnee. Of all spiritual knowledge i consider this the least important, to be discarded within a few months of kundalini awakening. Far more progress can be made by learning how to attain the thoughtless state. Just tasting a single drop of the Nirvikalpa Nectar can transform fools into saints. Imagine what it will do to Self- realized souls. Many SYs have only made mediocre progress despite being years in Sahaja Yoga. If their much touted subtle system knowledge and cleansing expertise is any yardstick to measure spirituality, what reason is there for Shri Mataji to be concerned about quality of SYs? that is why ignorance is bliss, jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 shriadishakti , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org> wrote: > > Of all spiritual knowledge i consider this the least important, to > be discarded within a few months of kundalini awakening. Far more > progress can be made by learning how to attain the thoughtless > state. Just tasting a single drop of the Nirvikalpa Nectar can > transform fools into saints. Imagine what it will do to Self- > realized souls. > Samadhi The state of being aware of one's Existence without thinking. Why do we do Yoga? In the original sense of the word, we do Yoga only for one reason and that is to unite with God, with pure Awareness, with the Self, or whatever we choose to name it. Some think that Yoga can be done for other reasons like improving one's health or fitness. But doing Hatha exercises for fitness alone is nothing but a fitness program and not Yoga since the name Yoga always implies the union with our Source. So, Yoga is always a striving for Union or Oneness. When we reach this state, it is a state of blissful Beingness, a state of pure Consciousness. Not much more can be said of this state, which Yogis call Samadhi. Depending on the intensity and the depth of Samadhi, we differentiate between Savikalpa, Nirvikalpa, and Sahaja Samadhi. Since Samadhi means being in the state of undifferentiated Beingness, there are not really different kinds of Samadhi. The difference is only seen from our point of view. Savikalpa Samadhi refers to the beginning state of Samadhi while Nirvikalpa Samadhi is the end result. During the beginning states, we might enter a form of Samadhi where we get the taste of Bliss and Beingness but are still tight to our erroneous identification with the body as well as to our numerous worldly attractions. Entering Samadhi in the beginning takes effort and holding on to Samadhi takes even more effort. Beginning stages of Samadhi are only temporary. Upon entering Nirvikalpa Samadhi the differences we saw before have faded and only one and the same Substance is seen with which we then gladly identify. In this condition nothing but pure Awareness remains and nothing is missing to take away from Wholeness and Perfection. Samadhi is the only stable Reality, everything else is changing and does not bring everlasting peace or happiness. Staying in Nirvikalpa Samadhi is effortless but even from this condition one must eventually return to ego-consciousness. However, it is entirely possible to stay in Nirvikalpa Samadhi and still be fully functional in this world. This condition is known as Sahaja Nirvikalpa Samadhi. www.self-realization.com/samadhi.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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