Bhoots and bhadhas....and newcomers (frightened to leave Sahaja Yoga)

[Guest guest]

shriadishakti , alex arthur <dude11976>

wrote:

> Hi All,

> This is with reference to the mail about not telling

> new comers about bhoots and badhas. Mr. Jagbir was

> expressing his view that newcomers must not be told. i

> am relatively new to sahaj yoga. By virtue of being

> very free (read unemployed) for the past 6 months, and

> being ditched by a very dear girlfriend, i've had

> loads of time on my hands.

>

> I jumped straight into sahaj and i think i crossed the

> spiritual speed and time barriers by

> over-meditating(2,4 or maybe more hours a day). I

> started to experience fantastic vibrations within the

> first 2 months and was totally amazed. Just then we

> celebrated matajis 81st birthday puja and at the mela

> here i met some sahaj doctors who called me the next

> day at a fellow sahaj yogis house for personalised

> advice. Cutting a long story short, i did go to the

> house, got all the medicines and advice for my medical

> problems and when i got home, i started getting

> anxious/depressed. I thought i'm tired and went to

> sleep. When i woke up, it felt like someone had

> reached into my chest and pulled my heart out. I was

> SO SO SO SO SO SCARED. I packed my suitcase in the

> next one hour, asked my maid to wait around while i

> packed because i was so terrified....and was going to

> catch a flight to spend time with my folks.

>

> Fortunately though, my reiki/pranic healing master was

> around and he managed to pacify and give me healing

> too. I've recovered from the incident and though my

> aunt is frantically trying to get me back into

> sahaj....i'm honestly not sure.

>

> I'm here though..and this time i guess i'll slow down.

>

>

 

Hi Alex,

 

Thank you for this honest experience.

 

i think you have already admitted that it was wrong to meditate for

so long. Sure, the vibrations feel good but sitting for 2, 4 or more

hours is just extreme. Probably that is the reason SYs advised you

otherwise and they were absolutely right. You would have become an

unbalanced ritualistic fanatic after some time.

 

You had a bad experience and i presume you were told about bhoots and

baddhas. It is just your misfortune that you met them in the first

place, and the explanation of bhoots and baddhas must have triggered

your " dream " ? " visualization " ? " panic attack? ....????? (i don't even

know what to make out of it).

 

You should also know that dangerous bacteria, germs, viruses, and

carcinogens are constantly attacking us through the air we breathe,

food we eat, things we smell, people we touch etc. Then there are

other dangers facing us: chunks of obsolete spacecraft parts falling

on us, lightning striking on a rainy day, being attacked by some real

mean African bees, some Rhesus monkeys escaping from an AIDS lab and

biting our children, .......................... and never ever

forget that the universe eventually will come to an end.

 

We can choose to worry about all these ever present dangers, just

like bhoots and baddhas. But what are your chances of actually

becoming an unfortunate victim in the future?

 

So Alex, you are now reluctant to practice Sahaja Yoga? You are using

a single incident to reject all the great vibrations you experienced

with the great Adi Shakti. It is just like suddenly refusing honey

because some African bees attacked an old man in Texas, and stung him

to death.

 

For all your great experiences just remember that all the while you

have been licking just the outside of the honey jar. You know nothing

of the Nirvikalpa Nectar inside .............. and 99.99% of SYs as

well. So what can they really teach you other than the 1% expertise

on cleansing techniques and those pesky bhoots that are genetically

programmed to attack only SYs?

 

 

just learn to be your own master,

 

 

jagbir

 

 

PS: Sure, vibrations feel good although they are almost NOTHING

compared to the Bliss of Nirvikalpa which i was fortunate to

experience so very briefly just twice in 10 years. i must emphasize

JUST BRIEFLY to make readers comprehend the bliss of collective

ignorance that SYs have made out of mere vibrations.

[Guest guest]

shriadishakti , " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org> wrote:> PS: Sure, vibrations feel good although

they are almost NOTHING compared to the Bliss of Nirvikalpa which i

was fortunate to experience so very briefly just twice in 10 years.

i must emphasize JUST BRIEFLY to make readers comprehend the bliss

of collective ignorance that SYs have made out of mere vibrations.

 

 

Thanks for repeatedly emphasising on this point because nowhere

except for Shree Mataji's lectures and at SYIH,Belapur is this

emphasised.At our collective it may have been mentioned but I have

yet to hear it(excluding Shree Mataji's talks).Like you said Jagbir

we are still stuck at the plateu and to me it looks like most of the

SYogi/nis are comfortable with this status quo OR no one wants to

speak about it - I belive it is the former.

 

A lot of people and I am a good example of those stuck at the plateu

will not find what you wrote about 99.9% is not music to the ears

since after SR and feeling the cool breeze a number of SYogi/nis have

the " air of superiority " (although they may not show it openly).They

rightly believe so as Shree Mataji has said so in her talks a number

of times that SYogi/nis are special but I belive a lot of us are

quite far from becoming what She means when She says a SYogi/ni which

is why She keeps reminding us to introspect.

 

Some people have labelled you as negative and there will be more in

the future but we need more people to point out our weaknesses and

faults - right now we have so so many people just high fiving and

back slapping each other about the progress SY have made.

Encouragement is good where it is needed but to turn a blind eye at

something not quite right or pretend it does not exist be it at the

local, national or international collective level just for the sake

of not ruffling some feathers is IMHO unacceptable.When we are

confronted by such situations we must tackle them head on and our

weapons are Shree Mataji's teachings and our discretion.

 

Balwinder

[Guest guest]

> shriadishakti , " jagbir singh "

> <adishakti_org> wrote:> PS: Sure, vibrations feel good

> >although they are almost NOTHING compared to the Bliss of

> >Nirvikalpa which i was fortunate to experience so very briefly

> >just twice in 10 years. i must emphasize JUST BRIEFLY to make

> >readers comprehend the bliss of collective ignorance that SYs

> >have made out of mere vibrations.

>

>

 

shriadishakti , " dr_balwinder "

<dr_balwinder> wrote:

 

> Thanks for repeatedly emphasising on this point because nowhere

> except for Shree Mataji's lectures and at SYIH,Belapur is this

> emphasised.At our collective it may have been mentioned but I have

> yet to hear it(excluding Shree Mataji's talks).Like you said Jagbir

> we are still stuck at the plateu and to me it looks like most of

> the SYogi/nis are comfortable with this status quo OR no one wants

> to speak about it - I belive it is the former.

>

 

No wonder Shri Mataji is concerned about the quality of SYs. Those

observing Her know that it is only when things really get out of hand

(read: SYs unable to introspect and collectively realize/cooperate to

solve serious problems) does She request action. That is why i am at

times frustrated by the inability of SYs to act independently and

have a mind of their own (read: being their own masters) in

rectifying problems. Why must they wait for Shri Mataji to know/bless

whatever they are doing?

 

The problem is all their senses are focused at the physical Shri

Mataji at Cabella. Just like religious institutions they are

projected outwards. But Shri Mataji has already said " There is

nothing to look outside! " So when will they learn to seek solutions

from the Adi Shakti within? Do they even believe in the first place

that She resides in their Sahasraras and is witness to all their

daily actions?

 

 

>

> A lot of people and I am a good example of those stuck at the

> plateu will not find what you wrote about 99.9% is not music to the

> ears since after SR and feeling the cool breeze a number of

> SYogi/nis have the " air of superiority " (although they may not show

> it openly). They rightly believe so as Shree Mataji has said so in

> her talks a number of times that SYogi/nis are special but I belive

> a lot of us are quite far from becoming what She means when She

> says a SYogi/ni which is why She keeps reminding us to introspect.

>

 

The other day i was watching a documentary about African crocodile

mothers looking after their eggs. These huge primordial creatures

have survived for millions of years and it is their fearsome brute

strength and stealthy hunting ability that ensured their survival.

 

The most touching aspect of these brutish-looking creatures is their

motherly instincts when they transport their new-born sons and

daughters by gingerly holding them between their teeth and taking

them to the nearby waters. If a brutish-looking crocodile mother is

so full of compassion for her children why not a human mother?

 

Shri Mataji has been very tender to most of Her children, even

wayward ones, and takes much caution not to offend them in any way.

Many have not realized that they only meet the basic of standard

spiritual requirements.

 

i do not consider most SYs to be measurably better than normal humans

beings, even if Shri Mataji says they are special. The only thing

special about them is that they are Self-realized, but this is no

assured confirmation of liberation.

 

>

> Some people have labelled you as negative and there will be more in

> the future but we need more people to point out our weaknesses and

> faults - right now we have so so many people just high fiving and

> back slapping each other about the progress SY have made.

> Encouragement is good where it is needed but to turn a blind eye at

> something not quite right or pretend it does not exist be it at the

> local, national or international collective level just for the sake

> of not ruffling some feathers is IMHO unacceptable. When we are

> confronted by such situations we must tackle them head on and our

> weapons are Shree Mataji's teachings and our discretion.

>

 

Let them label me whatever they want. i am in no power struggle for

leadership or looking for recognition. Neither am i another Shri

Kalki or some obscure incarnation who will need followers after Shri

Mataji leaves. i am just an actor conscientiously doing my part in

Her Divine Play. If spectators do not like my part and start throwing

tomatoes and insults, whose Divine Act are they actually ruining?

 

 

jagbir