hot n cold

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Ok, so this may seem like a prep school question to

all my fellow spritually advanced sahaj yogis...yikes,

i had something in mind which im sure would not go

down well with some of you...and my hands are

burning!!!

 

But ok, lets ask anyways....if im wrong, it should be

nice to get a right perspective. I'll go from 'most-

acceptable- to- ask' to...'absolute- taboo'

 

1. Is it really possible to make a decision based on

vibrations? I mean, see like i wrote before, my

unemployment continues for the sixth month now. my

folks are going broke supporting me...and suddenly now

(and maybe due to my prayers to the mother) a very

unlikely loan application, to set up a restaurant

seems to be coming through. Its made my life more

complicated cause i need to arrange more money, a

location, a partner and all...but hey..progress is

progress. So i went location hunting, and i kept

checking the vibrations at each place....er, i frankly

felt foolish cause they didnt communicate anything

apart from the regular bzzzz at the fingertips.

 

2. If someone could show some light here as

well...mothers talk says, i quote " Nobody should

arbitarily decide, but should consult the collective,

especially the leader to find out, if whatever you

have thought of is alright "

This was with regards to decision making...with

vibrations (in the initial stages) does this mean I go

to (ouch my hand burns and itches as i struggle on)

the lean tall gentleman whose name i dont know at the

sahaj temple here and ask him if 'chado' is a name

that will work or the other better sounding

alternative???

 

3. Before i joined sahaj, i used to go this woman in

bangalore who used to tell me my future by reading the

stains in a coffee cup..and she was remarkable

accurate at times. Since then i developed a keen

interest in all sorts of clairvoyance (oops,the taboo

question has started, but my hand is calm..phew)After

joining sahaj, the desire to peek into the future has

almost or mostly disappeared...but whatever i had read

earlier, indicates that a sahaj yogi, by virtue of the

meditation and kundalini rising should be the first

person to be clairvoyant.....is this true?

 

4. Now, i did complain last time that i got a sever

and indescribably terrifying catch when i met fellow

sahaj yogis at a doctors place some time after mothers

81st birthday puja. Even then, i dont think i have

missed one single day of meditation...my faith in the

lord almighty/mother is (i hope) firm. I'm coming to

the point now...as regards shri mataji, i have felt

the vibrations, ok. I have felt the kundalini at the

crown of my head, like something moving on my scalp,

ok. I have felt a cool breeze coming down from the

top, on my head, and further down over my shoulders

too i think, ok. No text book knowledge, no

visualisation..all real and felt on my central nervous

system. But But But....the string of thought thats

bothering me is that no scripture mentions any of

these phenomena...Mr.Jagbir, im talking of the

al-quiamah..im actually talking of:

a). The collectivity required to meditate

b). Left and right subtle system....not even known

clairvoyants or master pranic healers have made

mention of this, despite their additional powers

c)Not even Patanjali, in his yoga sutras has made

mention of either the vibrations(hot/cold etc) or the

grace flowing down, or the sudden and complete change

in character of the sadhak....by this i mean the

segregation between the unreal and the real

d)I'm too sleepy to remember the other things

 

5. Now, I want some advice. Mother has made

arrangements for us to marry nice and virtuous sahaja

yogins....though i kind of like a non sahaja yogin.

But increasing, i can feel a distance growing between

myself and the remaining world that i've so been used

to. I find small talk frivilous. I CANNOT abuse

anymore and when someone else abuses i loose the

content of the sentence..and then there is that

detachment creeping in..slowly though. I think it will

be hard for a worldly girl to accept and adjust with a

guy who isnt going to display any useless machoism/

watch a movie about some terribly negative emotion and

get 'MOVED'/or smoke a joint with the rest of the

gang...even the beer is down to a fourth ! Oh, i'm not

going to suggest that she joins....i've got reasons

but i'll tell only if someone wants to know.

 

6.As is our tradition, we respect other religions

right. There is a certain guru/spiritual leader called

amma...now she is the 'hugging saint' she hugs every

single person at each of her gatherings...my guess is

that, that is the way she initiates her disciples..she

cannot be wrong can she? I mean her disciples are

sticking to her because they get some kind of

relief/satisfaction/growth??? leads me on to say that

the paths are many, the destination is one????

 

Lastly, jagbir please dont throw me out of the forum

i'm just as keen on attaining salvation as anyone

else

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

shriadishakti , alex arthur <dude11976>

wrote:

>

> Lastly, jagbir please dont throw me out of the forum

> i'm just as keen on attaining salvation as anyone

> else

>

 

Dear Alex,

 

Do not worry about me throwing you out as i want members to be

truthful. i just do not like dishonest people pretending to be good

souls, and asking why are they having problems even though they live

a virtous life. If you have problems just be straightforward and SY

brothers and sister will genuinely help. .............. as in your

case. You have done nothing wrong by asking questions, even

difficult ones. What is there to hide regarding questions that

create doubts/problems?

 

Since your questions have more to do with the subtle system i will

leave it to those who are better than me. Maybe i also will learn a

thing or two from their answers.

 

 

jagbir

[Guest guest]

shriadishakti , Madhurima M <marycheva>

wrote:

>

> Dear Alex.

>

> I was very glad to hear that you have already started experiencing

> Mother's protection. May be sometime later I can share my miracles

> with the yogis with the permission of the moderator.

>

 

Dear Madhurima,

 

There are actually almost no restrictions on this forum which belongs

to the worldwide SY collective. The only time members have been

cautioned/banned is when they:

 

1) claim to be some Divine Incarnations.

 

So far only Shri Jesus and Kalki are favorites. i hope no one feels

sympathy for Shri Hanuman or Shiva being left out, and decide to

impersonate them.

 

2) give false information and request help.

 

There was one incident lately.

 

 

Other than that members are allowed to discuss any SY related issues.

Miracles and personal experiences are more than welcome because they

provide proof of Shri Mataji's divinity. Plese do not feel inhibited.

 

 

jagbir

[Guest guest]

shriadishakti , alex arthur <dude11976>

wrote:

>

> 5. Now, I want some advice. Mother has made

> arrangements for us to marry nice and virtuous sahaja

> yogins....though i kind of like a non sahaja yogin.

> But increasing, i can feel a distance growing between

> myself and the remaining world that i've so been used

> to. I find small talk frivilous. I CANNOT abuse

> anymore and when someone else abuses i loose the

> content of the sentence..and then there is that

> detachment creeping in..slowly though. I think it will

> be hard for a worldly girl to accept and adjust with a

> guy who isnt going to display any useless machoism/

> watch a movie about some terribly negative emotion and

> get 'MOVED'/or smoke a joint with the rest of the

> gang...even the beer is down to a fourth ! Oh, i'm not

> going to suggest that she joins....i've got reasons

> but i'll tell only if someone wants to know.

>

 

Alex,

 

A North American male thinks of sex about 440 times a day, and i

think this figure should be lower for women. However the chances of

mating are better in a promiscuous environment, and women respond in

a more flirtatious manner that easily arouses males with raging

hormones.

 

A North American SY keeps his mind free of induced and constant

sexual arousal by shunning porno, Playboy and XXX-rated adult movies

............. or ogling voluptuous women/girls (and thus able to

refrain from fantasizing far less than 440 times a day). Except for

his wife every other women is either his mother, sister or daughter.

 

i do not see how you are able to differentiate between a SYogini and

any woman. Do not judge by your observance of them at pujas or

meditation sessions because dating, marriage and sex is the last

thing on their minds. It is not an enviroment to judge. That is why a

non-SYogini at a local pub or disco is always more appealing. But

does that make SYoginis any less desirable? intelligent? complete?

wholesome? marriageable?

 

If you realize that more than 50% of all N. American marriages end up

in divorce perhaps you may begin to appreciate nice and virtuous

SYoginis. i have heard so many stories of marriages breaking up on

infidelity, financial stress, escalating arguments that i REALLY

appreciate my intact marriage of 27 years.

 

Anyway, your prospects will be much better if you hold a regular well-

paying job. Women are looking for financial as much as the emotional

security of a balanced, humorous man. i think you still need time to

understand that watching horror-movies, smoking joints and bearing

the brunt of aggressive macho-behavior is not what women really want

for the rest of their lives.

 

jagbir