i feel this is a dangerous and disturbing trend among the Yuvashakti.

[Guest guest]

If an individual's subtle system is so out of balance that a heart

attack has manifested on the physical level, then certainly the

response MUST (and quickly) be on the physical level, as Jagbir

rightly points out.

 

However it needs to be made clear that ice packs, footsoaks, lemons

and chillies, along with mantras, are all cleansing techniques

intended for the subtle system BEFORE the problems manifest in a gross

way on the physical level. They are all valid techniques - when used

correctly. And 'candle on right heart' is NOT, repeat NOT, correct

technique. If any list member does not understand why, then s/he

should go to the nearest Sahaja Yoga centre and find out.

 

zy

 

 

 

shriadishakti , " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vic,

> >

> > Ice pack can be used not only for liver but for any chakra on the

> > right side of the subtle system. It is ecpecially efficient on

the

> > Right Heart during the heart attack. (In this case one could also

> > put it on the stomach and in this moment we don`t work with the

> > candel at Heart Chakra).

> >

> > Jay Shri Mataji!

> > Hania

> >

>

> Can anyone confirm if what Hania so confidently tells the

Yuvashakti

> is indeed the truth? Is this what Shri Mataji has told us? Can She

be

> quoted on this?

>

> i think this dabbling trend among the Yuvashakti, who do not seem

to

> have a balancing counterweight, is becoming dangerous and perhaps

> even liable to cause great harm to Sahaja Yoga.

>

> Maybe i am wrong but i was under the impression that one should

call

> 911 immediately and summon help from paramedics. Then the victim

> should be given CPR or even an Aspirin if possible.

>

> i do not see how ice applied to the right side of the chest can

> revive a victim of heart attack. Maybe by doing so i may just

hasten

> death since SYs are led to believe that ice-packs - instead of 911,

> CPR and Aspirin - save heart-attack victims.

>

> In all my years practising Sahaja Yoga i have never felt more

> disturbed and concerned about the dangers creeping into mainstream

> Sahaja Yoga.

>

> Will we have to wait till we have a lawsuit and then bring some

> sanity back or is this subtle system infatuation destined for

greater

> depths of avidya?

>

> jagbir

[Guest guest]

shriadishakti , " zenyogi21 " <zenyogi21>

wrote:

> If an individual's subtle system is so out of balance that a heart

> attack has manifested on the physical level, then certainly the

> response MUST (and quickly) be on the physical level, as Jagbir

> rightly points out.

>

> However it needs to be made clear that ice packs, footsoaks, lemons

> and chillies, along with mantras, are all cleansing techniques

> intended for the subtle system BEFORE the problems manifest in a

> gross way on the physical level. They are all valid techniques -

> when used correctly. And 'candle on right heart' is NOT, repeat

> NOT, correct technique. If any list member does not understand why,

> then s/he should go to the nearest Sahaja Yoga centre and find out.

>

>

 

The case seems to be of SYs using different conflicting methods, even

harmful treatments, dispensed with an air of authority. For years i

have been observing silently the ever-increasing treatment methods,

and lately with alarm at the ease any SY can mark his/her stamp of

approval. Even more disturbing is the fact that moderators at these

forums first vet and then allow such false knowledge to be posted ..

............... and senior SYs do not voice their disagreement. (What

has happened to their legendary vibrations and wisdom?)

 

Since this is the case then it is high time for a central data bank.

i would prefer the Belapur Hospital to set this up, or provide the

relevant information, so that all SYs can instantly obtain proper and

accurate treatment methods, or any other related information

authorized by Shri Mataji. Newcomers must not unwittingly ask half-

baked SYs for information.

 

The only website for such detailed information is sahajvidya but it

should be more user-friendly. Asking new seekers 2 questions to

obtain passwords is like posting armed commandoes at ashrams to frisk

peaceful SYs for weapons, and even having a nail-cutter bars entry.

The webmaster wants only genuine, bona fide SYs. After 10 years in

Sahaja Yoga i was unable to enter until Ashish gave away the keys to

the backdoor:

 

shriadishakti/message/1840

 

But what it really needs is an extreme makeover and perhaps a

webmaster with a cool Swadisthan, sans ice-pack, to enhance

creativity. The color schemes are just too strong and fonts large for

a stress-free visit. As far as content is concerned, it is sufficient

but still lacks the confidence and clarity of material available at

the Belapur Clinic. Maybe some SYs should liaise between both and

come up with a better website that all SYs can use with full

confidence on a 24/7 basis. The present way of obtaining information

from fellow SYs just won't do if we want progress and professionalism.

 

jagbir