Guest guest Posted May 3, 2004 Report Share Posted May 3, 2004 The point is that first aid services have to be summoned as non medical practioners are not equipped nor authorised to deal with medical crisis. Yes, but at that time, you can use your power of Shuddh Iccha and ask Mother to forgive the person with the cardiac arrest. I am not aware of the medical details which you mentioned. But, yes, that is a universal problem, not only in the U.S.A. Medical science will never be able to offer the same solutions for medical crisis and imbalances the way Sahaj can, and can regenerate, from whatever extent the recovery of the patient may be, even if he/she remains a vegetable for the rest of his life. I was never convinced by lemon, chillies, matka etc in Sahaj. I tried them once but my left side start misbehaving. I only do footsoaking and daily dhyana. And shoebeating maybe once a fortnight or as and when required. Otherwise, the bandhan we give using our left hands is powerful enough. Besides, the vibrations of the Nirakaar change every year from 1st Jan. This is something I have been observing ever since I came in Sahaj. Now, more and more virtues of the Nirakaar are making themselves felt to the people in the world - Sahajis or non-Sahajis. Only Sahajis know that it is taking them to higher levels of awareness. So, if a medical crisis (not only cardiac arrests) for someone comes across your way, just use your shuddh iccha to bring him up. Give a bandhan, that's all. Regards, Rajan > i am no doctor but this is what i came across: > > " In the United States alone, " said Poeppel, " sudden > cardiac arrests > strike about 1,000 people a day, and the survival > rate is at best 2 > to 4 percent. If we can improve survival rate by > just 1 percent, we > will save the lives of 10 people every single day. " > > People who suffer cardiac arrests outside of the > hospital have a > lower recovery rate. Brain cells start dying rapidly > 10 to 12 minutes > after an arrest, because of the lack of blood flow > to the brain. > Beyond this time, the person cannot make a full > recovery. Even if the > heart can be restarted, the person is brain dead. > > ERC researchers wanted to investigate brain cooling > using ice slurry > to improve recovery rate. When cells cool, their > metabolism and their > chemical processes slow dramatically. > > " That slow-down process can be introduced by cooling > cells 2 to 6 > degrees Fahrenheit, " Kasza said. " It doesn't take a > whole lot. " > > The difficulty, though, is cooling the body during > cardiac arrest > when there is no blood flow. External body-cooling > is slow. In 10 > minutes, external cooling only reduces temperature > by 0.54 degrees > Fahrenheit - not enough to protect the cells from > damage. > > Fluid fix > > Because external cooling is too slow, the team > proposed injecting ice > slurry into the body to induce rapid internal > cooling. Because of its > viscosity, the ice slurry could spread to cool a > large portion of the > body. The question became where and how would the > ice slurry be > injected? > > The team reviewed various body sections before > settling on the lungs. > The lungs are an in-body heat exchanger, because > almost all of the > body's blood moves past the lungs at some time. > > Researchers reasoned that by filling the lungs with > the ice slurry > and maintaining chest compressions, the blood supply > to the brain > would be chilled and would slow cell activity and > death. " > > > So the window of recovery from a heart-attack is > very slim and time a > critical factor of utmost importance. That is why it > is irresponsible > for any SY, especially those with no medical > background or > credentials, to give such advise > .................... especially if > assured death is just round the corner. > > This being the case, it was imperative that Hania > should have > mentioned dialing 911. It is a lame excuse that her > omission did not > exclude that inclusion. We are talking about teenage > Yuvashakti > members who do not have the maturity and knowledge > to know they have > such a short time frame for a heart attack victim. > (i did not until a > few minutes ago.) And if they are that conditioned > by catches and > treatments, of which i am clearly disturbed, they > will take Hania's > advise right away and rush for the fridge. > > If this was the case of using an ice-pack, kum-kum, > ajwan, chillies, > lemons, candle etc., for some body ache or disease > it would not have > mattered. Catches do not kill and i have nothing > against SYs trying > for 18, 22 years or even entire lifetimes ridding of > petty problems > that the Mother Kundalini can cure in seconds, > .......... provided > they do not enlighten others with their ignorance. > > But we are talking about a heart attack that kills > in a short time. > Great care should be taken that the > easily-influenced Yuvashakti are > given precise instructions in such serious > life-and-death situations. > We just cannot assume they will know what to do. It > is just > irresponsible to presume so. And if in future some > SY advises using a > === message truncated === Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes./careermakeover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 shriadishakti , ballu dadda <dr_balwinder> wrote:This reminds me of the story I remember of a very devout man called John who had tremendous faith in God.One day there was tremendous amount of rain in his area and after a while he saw a car come over to his house and the man told John that he was sent specifically to take John to a safer place since there is news that the bad weather will continue for the next 24 hrs at least.John refused the help politely saying that he has faith that God will take care of him.So the man left after failing to convince John of the impending danger. Soon John's house was taking in water as the flood waters began to rise. John took sanctuary in the upper storey of his house and after some time he heard the sound of a motorised boat outside his flooded house. John looked out and saw 2 men in a boat and they told John that they had been sent to rescue him. John again politely refused saying that he had complete faith in God being able to take care of him and told them not to worry about him and told them to go save someone else who had less faith in God.It kept on raining and soon John was forced to go to the roof. Luckily a helicopter pilot saw him and soon a ladder dropped from the heli and down climbed a sturdy man to help John up. John still refused help and said that he still was very sure that God will help him when the crucial moment comes and told them to leave him be.After a few more hours the flood waters rose further and John being unable to swim drowned in the flood waters.He awoke at Pearly gates and saw St Peter looking down on him. John was very upset and started to complain" How is it that God could allow such a devotee of his drown just like that ?"St Peter answered "God sent the man in the car to rescue you but you refused , God then sent you rescuers in a boat but you refused and still God did not give up on you and finally sent you rescuers in a helicopter but you still refused."Moral of the story is use your common sense and discretion as always and especially so in medical emergencies.I would love also to stand by and give a bandhan when my patient is suffocating to death but I still somehow always end up doing surgery to save him/her and give thanks to AdiShakti on the success of the operation. There are numerous more examples of medical emergencies where I use medical science and give thanks to AdiShakti for the wisdom to make the right decision always.Simple rule for non-medical people is call for help FIRST in any medical emergency.Then try to help the patient in whatever way you can, if bleeding form a wound put pressure at the site to stop/decrease the bleeding - it is common sense knowledge (I cannot go thru all the examples where we must use common sense). Nobody ever said that you cannot do bandhan while doing the life saving measures (Remember it is said that in public places you can do it without the physical motions).If you know CPR (cardiopulmonary resusitation) when a person has stopped breathing you use it immediately if the person requires it even though you are not a medical person. The only important thing to remember is to not move the person ..... as far as possible. If a person is choking on a piece of food in a restaurant , do the Heimlich manouvere on him/her. In both this cases if you wait for medical help and it does not arrive within 4 minutes maximum the person will be braindead.In medical emergencies seconds determine life and death and in those who live seconds determine whether that person walks out of the hospital or is wheeled out as a "vegetable". South Africa diva 'brain damaged'Monday, 3 May, 2004, 16:29 GMT 17:29 UK Fassie has been described as the wild child of South African music South African singer Brenda Fassie has suffered brain damage following a heart problem, but reports she is "brain dead" have been denied. Fassie, 40, was taken to hospital in Johannesburg a week ago after suffering heart failure. "Brenda Fassie's vital signs of life to date are stable and she is not brain-dead as has been extensively reported," her record company said. Speculation about her condition has been rife in the South African media. One newspaper reported Ms Fassie had been put on a life-support machine and claimed that her family had been advised to switch it off. Her family have now confirmed that she has suffered brain damage following a cardio-respiratory arrest, but is still alive and further tests are being carried out. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3680713.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 10, 2004 Report Share Posted May 10, 2004 > > > > shriadishakti , ballu dadda <dr_balwinder> wrote: > > > > If you know CPR (cardiopulmonary resusitation) when a person has > > stopped breathing you use it immediately if the person requires > > it even though you are not a medical person. The only important > > thing to remember is to not move the person ..... as far as > > possible. If a person is choking on a piece of food in a > > restaurant , do the Heimlich manouvere on him/her. In both this > > cases if you wait for medical help and it does not arrive within > > 4 minutes maximum the person will be braindead. > > > > In medical emergencies seconds determine life and death and in > > those who live seconds determine whether that person walks out of > > the hospital or is wheeled out as a " vegetable " . > > > > South Africa diva 'brain damaged' > Monday, 3 May, 2004, 16:29 GMT 17:29 UK > Fassie has been described as the wild child of South African music > > South African singer Brenda Fassie has suffered brain damage > following a heart problem, but reports she is " brain dead " have > been denied. > > Fassie, 40, was taken to hospital in Johannesburg a week ago after > suffering heart failure. > > " Brenda Fassie's vital signs of life to date are stable and she is > not brain-dead as has been extensively reported, " her record > company said. > > SOUTH AFRICANS MOURN TOP POP DIVA Monday, 10 May, 2004 South Africans are grieving after the death of one of the country's most popular singers, Brenda Fassie, 39. Fassie, known as the girl with the golden voice, was taken to hospital two weeks ago with brain damage following a heart attack.... Her family confirmed on Sunday that she had suffered brain damage following a cardio-respiratory arrest. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/3699055.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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