Guest guest Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 Dear Doctor Balwinder, I am a little confused as to whether I should thank you or shy away from what seems like reprimand. In any case your sarcasm came shining through. Your constant and incessant use of my 'pure intellectual curiosity' is indeed commendable. After going through so many of mothers lectures, I am sure you must be one of the advanced sahaj yogis who have developed sarcasm as one of the divine qulaities reflected in the devas. True to my expectation, I did not get one single answer. Oh well, if such is our expectation then such will be the result I can only wonder what the other sahaj yogis are going to say in response (my expectation is heading south from sarcastic to ascerbic). Anyways, thank you for the reply. I gather that your answer was a)You dont know b) I should go to Belapur (To find out if my kundalini has crossed the sahastrar!!!!!!!) c)Dont expect replies on a forum d)If I feel something perfectly natural, I should rush to a doctor to console myself Lets explore point >d< in greater detail Givens: Distance from home to doc: 16km Transport: AC car Traffic: Maddening Consultation charge: Rs. 500 CASE 1 Doctor Doctor my hands keep itching all the while. This centre part mostly, and doctor doctor they become dry and itchy too. Prescription Candiderma B - 3 times a day Anti allergic tabs Come back again in 4 days Total estimated damage: Two consultations + Petrol + 5 hrs of cumulative wait/transport time + medication .....OUCH! CASE 2 Pains on the side of my head (Perfectly normal in sahaj as this is the time that the seats are being activated in the head and negativity fights a losing battle. Also indicated as catches. Note: Incidence is more when the disciple tries to ascend at a high speed) Prescription I dont even want to imagine the total cost and trauma associated with a CAT scan/MRI and specialist fees in trying to figure out if im dying of a brain tumor!! Jagbir, now you need to wonder why sahaj is not progressing at the break neck speed that you wish it would. Mother has asked us to depend on older sahaj yogis for guidance...Voila! In summary, doctor Balwinder, if i were to ever become one of the advanced sahaj yogis as you are, then I would pray for the souls of all those who ever dare to ask a question in my presence. --- dr_balwinder <dr_balwinder wrote: > Alex why do you think that people are intentionally > not replying to > ur mail? > > You are free to wonder anything out of " pure > intellectual curiosity " > and even subject anyone on this forum or in your > collective to > your " pure intellectual curiosity " but do not > expect an answer to > each and every one of your " pure intellectual > curiosity " .No one has > all the answers. > > I also had some " pure intellectual curiosity " early > on but then I > somehow knew which were worth pursuing and which are > just > plain " imagination " of my own.Also after a while if > you mix with the > collective you will know who can give you proper > explainations to > your " pure intellectual curiosity " if you must have > the answers.I > always believed nobody owed me a solution/remedy to > my > problems/curiosity and still do so.There is no > secret ........... > sometimes no one has the answers, sometimes you get > the answers as > you progress in your ascent. > > If you cannot surrender it all to Mother and at the > same time are > fearful that what you are going thru maybe a > physical problem you > would be better off being re-assured by a medical > doctor. > > I have friends who are ex-SYogi/nis but they never > ever tell me to > leave SYoga.Since you are still struggling it is > best to stop > discussiing SYoga with those telling you to leave > for a certain > period of time.They have left for their own reasons > and I know people > leave for the most absurd of reasons - due to > another SYogi > (equivalent to Lord Jesus's disciples forsaking Him > due to Judas > Iscariot), pressure to marry within SYoga(which I > believe is non- > existent since I never experienced it and have yet > to come across > anyone having experienced it), lies about Mother[no > point discussing > lies ] etc etc > > So meditate twice a day , read/listen Shree Mataji's > talks and ask > yourself whether the " pure intellectual curiosity " > is top priority or > becoming more grounded in SYoga knowledge is. > > As a last resort , you may want to go to SYIH at > Belapur to really > get yourself going in SYoga if everything else > fails(the ex-SYogis > will tell you that it is a ploy to make money for > SYoga......... ha! > ha!). > > Balwinder > > shriadishakti , alex arthur > <dude11976> > wrote: > > I dont know why, but i think that people are > > intentionally not replying to my mail (ref: all > the > > things about - have i crossed sahastrara or not, > the > > feeling that something is blooming on my head) > > > > Even the last time I was really wondering what > (just > > out of 'pure' intellectual curiosity) happens if > > someone puts heat on the right heart. (Courtesy: > > zenyogi)Of course jagbir, you had did drive a > point > > through that i should not waste time with these > > things....what choice do i have anyways. > > > > Even at the temple, if i ask anyone anything, they > say > > just leave it to mother. i.e A month or so ago, i > felt > > this huge ball of heat behind my nose, and it was > > causing great discomfort. I was under the > impression > > that its a blockage on the path of the kundalini, > and > > nobody would give me a solution. > > > > A month or so before that, i used to get pains on > the > > sides of my head, sometimes in front sometimes at > the > > back...phew!! That almost almost got me panicky. > Again > > i thought it must be the seats of the chakras that > are > > reacting to something, maybe my own negative > thought > > patterns. Someone told me that those were the > baloons > > of the ego and superego that have since > > subsided.....maybe its true...but what if it had > been > > a physical problem! > > > > I just dont understand what the big secret is > about!!! > > I get mails all the time from ex-sahaja yogis who > give > > me facts and figures on why i should quit. But i > > havent. In fact i write to them, trying to explain > > esoteric philosophy to them, and try to convince > them > > not to waste a lifetime in frivilous things....to > get > > back into sahaj. Call it a change in nature > induced by > > Mataji, or call it anything. Maybe its an inherent > > trait that I am concerned for those who get lost > on > > the path. > > > > Jagbir...gulp..im out this time...arent I ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at HotJobs > > > http://hotjobs.sweepstakes./careermakeover > > Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes./careermakeover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2004 Report Share Posted May 8, 2004 Dear Jagbirji, Taking sides eh....cool. Ok, I guess quoting 'pure intellectual curiosity' at the beginning of every line is not unusual. Maybe Wren and Martin actually overlooked this manner of making english an even more beautiful language. 'pure intellectual curiosity' -Mr. Balwinder, my sincere apologies. I didnt know doctor actually meant doctor. 'pure intellectual curiosity' -Too you too sire (Mr. Jagbir) 'pure intellectual curiosity' - Though i must disagree, most gurus do answer questions and dont get sick of disciples..some of them have so much knowledge that they write books. As far as i am concerned, you are my guru as i asked you the questions. 'pure intellectual curiosity' -Alas, my life hasnt been a long one night stand. Im 27...oh grief...i dont want to explain my saga again. 'pure intellectual curiosity' -Bata shoe works, its a method suggested by mataji to combat ego. If you symbolize it to beating yourself with shoes, you will perhaps be kind to neophyte sajhaj yogis 'pure intellectual curiosity' -As for the parable on casting pearls before swine...well what can i say...they are seekers too. They have doubts that we cant answer...does not make them people of a lesser standard. Besides, you yourself wrote about someone from malaysia who saw present day sahaj yogis and decided he was better off meditating in a gurudwara. 'pure intellectual curiosity' can we please have peace now. I got all my answers. Thank you and may the divine blessings ensure a fun weekend. --- jagbir singh <adishakti_org wrote: > shriadishakti , alex arthur > <dude11976> > wrote: > > Dear Doctor Balwinder, > > > > I am a little confused as to whether I should > thank > > you or shy away from what seems like reprimand. In > any > > case your sarcasm came shining through. Your > constant > > and incessant use of my 'pure intellectual > curiosity' > > is indeed commendable. After going through so many > of > > mothers lectures, I am sure you must be one of the > > advanced sahaj yogis who have developed sarcasm as > one > > of the divine qulaities reflected in the devas. > > > > Alex, > > You are reading sarcasm in Balwinder's reply?!!!!! i > am flabbergasted > and definitely not envious at your ability to read > insults in what > many will regard as an honest reply. > > So you are offended by " pure intellectual > curiosity " , which Balwinder > himself admitted confused him as the infinite range > of questions > requiring answers can make even advanced gurus sick > ............ of > the questions and the person asking. Have you really > met a guru who > will answer the " pure intellectual curiosity " of > their ignorant > disciples? > > So your question was whether your kundalini crossed > the Sahasrara? > After so many months in Sahaja Yoga you are asking > this dumb > question. It is just like doubting yourself if you > were given human > birth ................ or bought off a supermarket > shelf. Haven't you > realized yet that from the very moment you were > given self- > realization your kundalini DID CROSS THE > SAHASRARA?!!!! ............. > even if just a single strand made it. You mean you > are still in the > dark? > > All these months your Mother Kundalini has been > working really hard > to heal you, and that is why you are still feeling > the problems. i > don't know but your past must have been one hell of > a one-night- > stand, and that is why you are still not > stabilizing. (Now don't > crucify me on this one-night-stand because i enjoyed > similar days > before Shri Mataji turned an animal like me into a > human being.) > > However, if you still persist in satisfying your > " pure intellectual > curiosity " then you have another thing coming. Your > Agnya will only > increase reacting and answers will like a hydra > divide itself into > more questions. There is no end to this " pure > intellectual curiosity " > that you are seeking from SYs. We are all trying to > cease this > useless mental chatter in our minds and seek answers > from the Divine > Silence. So why are you trying to get suspect > answers from mere > humans when the Divine can answer all your can throw > ........... > provided you learn to pose your answers in a humble, > dignified manner. > > But if you have any physical problems just go and > see a doctor. Do > your consider Dr. Balwinder's request you do so an > insult?!!!!! i > just cannot believe you feel offended by everything > he has told you > because i would have given you similar advise > .............. and not > take your Bata shoe and find a nice spot to beat the > ground. He is a > doctor Alex, for crying out loud. Your physical > complaints may just > turn out to be, Shri Mataji forbid, a cause for > concern: > > " I dont even want to imagine the total cost and > trauma > associated with a CAT scan/MRI and specialist fees > in > trying to figure out if im dying of a brain tumor!! " > > Howver, the preliminary examination may be just turn > out to be a > small pimple growing on your head, and you will be > really relieved > that you do not have a brain tumor .......... or > need to pay 92,000 > rupees. So why flog him for trying to honestly help > you? > > i have no problems about you enlightening those > against Shri Mataji > with esoteric essays and kundalini courses. Remember > Jesus' parable > about casting pearls before swine? > > And regarding the snail-pace spread of Sahaja Yoga. > Everything will > turn out just fine in the future. She has just begun > to recede from > Her external physical form and turning attention to > Her internal, > eternal spiritual reality as the Maha-Devi, Shri > Lalita, Divine > Mother - the Shakti of All. Everything is just > proceeding perfectly! > > jagbir > > Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes./careermakeover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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