Guest guest Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 shriadishakti , " Isha " <shanti442> wrote: > > Peace to all read this message. > > The first thing I would like to say to those that read this > message is that Shri Mataji never said she was the Mahdi in her > speeches. > To believe in the Imam Mahdi " as the Second or the Promised Messiah is an article of faith, because first of all His coming early in the 14th century of the Hidjra was predicted by Muhammad. " 1 " In AD 622 Muhammad, encountering religious opposition to his teachings of the unity of God and his denunciation of idolatry, moved north from his birthplace Mecca to Medina, both in Saudi Arabia. This hejira marks the start of the Muslim calendar. " 2 The journey in 622 across the desert is a crucial event for Muslims. This departure from Mecca was undertaken when there were talk of assassination and plots were hatched. At this stage, pilgrims from the city of Yathrib or Madinah heard the Prophet preach and were impressed. They invited him to come and live with them, over 400 kilometers away across the Arabian desert, and the prophet accepted their invitation. The journey in 622 across the desert is a crucial event for Muslims. It is called the hijra, which means departure. Even today, the Muslim system of dating years starts with the Prophet's journey; AD 622 is the first year of the Muslim calendar. " The date of the actual Hijrah as given in Caetani may be accepted as Sept.-Oct. 622, being the month of Rab'i 1. If the ninth of that month would be accepted as the date of the departure from the cave of Thawr, the best synchronised date would be the 22nd of September 622 C. But as the first month of the Arab year was (and is) Muharram, the Hijrah year 1 is counted as beginning on the 15th or 16th July 622 (= 1 Muharram A.H. 1.) " 3 Given the above facts concerning Hidjra (Hijrah or Hegira), the starting point of the Islamic period, begins at the end of the year 622. " Early in the 14th century of the Hidjra " is 1923 and the Imam Mahdi had to surface precisely in the first few months, as promised by Nabi Muhammad. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi was born the 21st of March 1923! jagbir 1. H.A.R. Gibb, J.H. Kramers, " Shorter Encyclopaedia of Islam, E.J. Brill, Leiden 1953, p.24 2. Sects, `Cults' and Alternative Religions, David V. Barret, Cassell PLC, 1996, p. 27 3. Abdullah Yusuf Ali, The Holy Qur'an, 1989, p 1032 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 we can get over the confusion on the identity of imam mahdi by asking shri matagi while she is still around instead of speculating sampashriadishakti , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org> wrote: > shriadishakti , " Isha " <shanti442> wrote: > > > > Peace to all read this message. > > > > The first thing I would like to say to those that read this > > message is that Shri Mataji never said she was the Mahdi in her > > speeches. > > > > To believe in the Imam Mahdi " as the Second or the Promised Messiah > is an article of faith, because first of all His coming early in the > 14th century of the Hidjra was predicted by Muhammad. " 1 " In AD 622 > Muhammad, encountering religious opposition to his teachings of the > unity of God and his denunciation of idolatry, moved north from his > birthplace Mecca to Medina, both in Saudi Arabia. This hejira marks > the start of the Muslim calendar. " 2 > > The journey in 622 across the desert is a crucial event for Muslims. > This departure from Mecca was undertaken when there were talk of > assassination and plots were hatched. At this stage, pilgrims from > the city of Yathrib or Madinah heard the Prophet preach and were > impressed. They invited him to come and live with them, over 400 > kilometers away across the Arabian desert, and the prophet accepted > their invitation. > > The journey in 622 across the desert is a crucial event for Muslims. > It is called the hijra, which means departure. Even today, the Muslim > system of dating years starts with the Prophet's journey; AD 622 is > the first year of the Muslim calendar. > > " The date of the actual Hijrah as given in Caetani may be accepted as > Sept.-Oct. 622, being the month of Rab'i 1. If the ninth of that > month would be accepted as the date of the departure from the cave of > Thawr, the best synchronised date would be the 22nd of September 622 > C. But as the first month of the Arab year was (and is) Muharram, the > Hijrah year 1 is counted as beginning on the 15th or 16th July 622 (= > 1 Muharram A.H. 1.) " 3 > > Given the above facts concerning Hidjra (Hijrah or Hegira), the > starting point of the Islamic period, begins at the end of the year > 622. " Early in the 14th century of the Hidjra " is 1923 and the Imam > Mahdi had to surface precisely in the first few months, as promised > by Nabi Muhammad. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi was born the 21st of March > 1923! > > jagbir > > > 1. H.A.R. Gibb, J.H. Kramers, " Shorter Encyclopaedia of Islam, E.J. > Brill, Leiden 1953, p.24 > > 2. Sects, `Cults' and Alternative Religions, David V. Barret, > Cassell PLC, 1996, p. 27 > > 3. Abdullah Yusuf Ali, The Holy Qur'an, 1989, p 1032 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2004 Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 shriadishakti , " sampalee2003 " <sampalee2003> wrote: > > we can get over the confusion on the identity of imam mahdi by > asking shri matagi while she is still around instead of > speculating > There is a general consensus that Shri Mataji is the Imam Mahdi. i quote the Hindustan Times of India, February 9, 1998: " LUCKNOW (Feb 9) — Interpretation of the Quran in the light of Sahaja Yoga was the topic of the first international conference of the Islamic Study Group in the city here on Sunday. Various Muslim scholars from around the globe dwelt on the divine powers of Nirmala Devi, who has rediscovered the magic of `sahaj yoga.' The members discussed the benefits of this form and how Muslims could benefit from it. Speaking on occasion, Mr. Husain Top, a renowned sufi saint from Turkey, said the seven heavens mentioned by the prophet were in fact seven `chakras' of consciousness. " The Almighty is pleased after one attains a higher state of consciousness through self-purification and meditation, " he said. " God sees through man and he hears through man, " the sufi saint said. Mr. Top said in the final stage of consciousness man is enveloped by the will of God and in this state he attains union with the Almighty and finds peace. Mr. Jamal from Algeria revealed that `Qayamet' or Doomsday as is generally understood, is not destruction but resurrection attaining enlightenment. He explained that the real meaning of the greater `jehad' or holy war was the `conquest of the self.' Mr. Javed Khan, president of the Indian Taekwondo Association and the All-India Kickboxing Federation, said the `meraj' or ascent can be attained through self-realization, which happens spontaneously in Sahaja Yoga. The Quran and the Hadith speak specifically about 'meraj' he said. Dr. Amjad Ali from Australia spoke on the same topic and explained the matter in detail. He related every aspect of his theory to the electromagnetic field of the energy present within every individual, which he termed as `chakras.' Explaining the position of the `kundalini,' which he said was the breath of god in the human body, Mr. Amjad Ali said the `kundalini' ascends from the base of the spine to the top of the head, which when aroused leads to self-realization. Dr. Zafar Rashid from the United Kingdom talked about incarnations. He said the holy ghost was in fact the primordial feminine power called `Adi Shakti.' " It is through this `shakti' that we can attain salvation, " he said. Mr. Majeed Golpour from Iran said resurrection is also the time for advent of the 12th. Imam or the `Ma'adhi' (which Javed said was in fact `Adi Shakti'.) Mr. Golpour said from the various signals he received from time to time, it has become clear that `adi shakti' or the `imam ma'ahdi' had come to Earth in the form of Nirmala Devi. " The Hindustan Times, February 9, 1998 However, Shri Mataji has admitted that the Muslims will not believe Her despite an entire surah in the Koran confirming Her advent. On 28 February 1990 Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, on Her way to Australia, stopped at Changi Airport, Singapore. She informed the Sahaja Yogis who had gathered to meet Her that " in Islam there was a complete surah written about Her. In this surah it was stated that the Sent One will give Realization, will make you Pirs and give Collective Consciousness. But you will be non-believers. " (Divine Cool Breeze Revelations 1989-90, Vishwa Nirmala Dharma, p. 141.) The complete surah that Shri Mataji asserts is written about Her is Surah 75 The Resurrection (Al-Qiyamah). The verses confirm that the Resurrection will be collected. promulgate, recited and explained. That is exactly what Shri Mataji has done for the last three centuries. http://www.al-qiyamah.org/surah_16-19.htm Over the last thirty years She has realized that Muslims are most difficult to approach, and only a handful have responded. The verses of Surah 75 (Al-Qiyamah) support Her claim that Muslims will not believe the Truth that the Resurrection has begun: But on the contrary, he rejected Truth and turned away! Then did he stalk to his family in full conceit! Woe to thee, (O man!), yea, woe! Again, woe to thee, (O man!), yea, woe! surah 75:32-35 Al Qiyamah (The Resurrection) (Abdullah Yusuf Ali, The Holy Qur'an, Amana Corporation, 1989.) http://www.al-qiyamah.org/surah_31-35.htm There are other Koranic verses forewarning that Muslims will not even know that the Resurrection is taking place, http://www.al-qiyamah.org/this_is_the_day_of_resurrection.htm and that the Divine will neither address nor purify the non- believers. The exact words are " Allah will not address them on the Day of Resurrection, nor purify them " . (Shri Mataji has addressed hundreds of thousands of humans during this Age of the Resurrection, raised their kundalinis and after given self-realization taught the how to use the subtle systems to purify themselves.) http://www.al-qiyamah.org/allah_will_not_address_them.htm There is indeed a general feeling that Muslims will not listen or obey Allah's (SWT) command to all humanity to commence the Resurrection. The vast majority who have surrendered to the Resurrection are non-Muslims. Thus, even if Shri Mataji declares She is the Imam Mahdi i do not see Muslims responding. In fact Shri Mataji has practically given up on them as it is extremely difficult to change centuries-old Islamic theology regarding the Resurrection. It is for this reason i do not want to waste time trying to have dialogue to enlighten them. Muslims are in disagreement even among themselves and various sects have sprung up, each professing to be on the right path. Most of them view non-Muslims as kafirs (non- believers), treating them with suspicion and contempt. They are the least interested in what kafirs have to say. (In my opinion Shri Mataji would probably be regarded as a kafir, unless She converts to a Muslim! So what is the point of telling them She is the Imam Mahdi?) The most effective method is just telling mainstream Muslims that the Resurrection has begun. That is all we SYs have to do. It does not matter at all if they refuse to listen or surrender themselves to Allah's (SWT) Will. Even He is telling His messengers to do just that: We know best what they say; And thou are not one to overawe them by force. So admonish with the Qur'an such as fear My Warning! surah 50:45 (Qaf) (Abdullah Yusuf Ali, The Holy Qur'an, Amana Corporation, 1989.) Just informing Muslims about the Resurrection is far more important and easier to accomplish than convincing them to receive the Baptism of Allah (Self-realization) and purify themselves (subtle system). They will never be interested in Sahaja Yoga until and unless they are admonished with the Qur'an to fear Allah's (SWT) Warning that the Resurrection has begun. jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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