Being thoughtless - is it a matter of practice, will-power and meditation?

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shriadishakti , " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org> wrote:

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> The problem was i had no way of circumventing this highly emotional

> issue of 'seal of the prophets'. How to endorse Shri Mataji's

> advent when the last prophet excludes all others after prophet

> Muhammad? These Muslims were just looking for a single webpage to

> invalidate the remaining hundreds. If an answer was not found fast

> the www.al-qiyamah.org website was going to be the cause of an ever-

> increasing chorus of protests and anger, maybe even threats.

>

> The only way was to seek answers in the thoughtless state. It lead

> me to specific passages in the Qur'an that had me shaking my head

> in disbelief, awe and triumphant jubilation - now there would be no

> way that Muslims could deny Shri Mataji.

>

> i deleted the contentious page and uploaded information of the

> newly found facts. The results were almost instantaneous. All

> warnings were removed from the internet and the critics were

> silenced ....... ever since. That is the power of the thoughtless

> state!

>

 

 

" But as soon as you become a realised soul you have to know that

your properties and priorities are very different. Your `Property'

is your spirit. And your priorities are where you can manifest your

spirit and can feel the spirit of others. So the whole concept that

was so far obstructing you and limiting your understanding changes

in an unlimited area where you start thinking of the spirit. Now in

that concept of the spirit the property of the Spirit is twofold.

 

One is in its nature. The nature of the spirit is as we call

it " SatChitAnanda " means it is the joy that is the truth...it tells

you the truth all the times it gives you the discretion...divine

discretion...and Chitta the attention that acts...that works, that

gives you all the information. So this is how you got the nature of

the spirit thats felt within yourself.

 

But on the other side what does it want and what are its duties. Or

why to become the spirit? Such questions arise..later on when we

enter into the kingdom of God. "

 

Shri Mataji,

Ganapatipule, India. December 26, 1988

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shriadishakti , " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org> wrote:

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>

> shriadishakti , alex arthur <dude11976>

> wrote:

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> > A question to both you and Jagbir, I'm just a little

> > curious here, are you able to maintain the witness

> > state even during a conversation with someone. Do both

> > of you have full time jobs that involve meeting

> > people, thinking and processing data? How do you do

> > it, is it a matter of practice, will-power and

> > mediatation? Do you maintain the witness state even

> > during sleep? Please give me some pointers. I often

> > fall asleep trying to be aware and conscious, but i

> > soon drift into a dream.

> >

> >

>

> Dear Alex,

>

> There is a difference between witnessing and thoughtless awareness.

> i believe being a witness is a conscious effort to bear the

> unpleasant. Being thoughtless is a witness who does not experience

> the unpleasant despite being aware.

>

> Maybe it is a lack of clarification but i have never been

> thoughtless for hours as thoughts, mostly useless reflections of

> the reacting ego, still come. However, by consciously reducing the

> number of thoughts, i manage to progressively increase the number

> of thoughtless minutes per hour. This is never constant because you

> are bound to get up on the wrong side of the bed or get a bad hair

> day. The thoughtless state is a marathon taking years. So learn to

> take a deserved rest and enjoy the view.

>

>

 

" Surrender and grace are interrelated. Surrender draws down grace and

grace makes surrender complete. Surrender starts the purification of

the heart and grace completes it. Without grace complete unification

is not possible. Grace divinises your being in order that the

constant inflow and inspiration can be received and retained. It is

through divine grace alone that one's whole being is galvanised and

rejuvenated.

 

The self-arrogating little ego persists and resists again and again.

It clings leech-like to old habits, cravings and desires. It wages

guerilla war; it resists surrender. It demands certain objects for

its secret gratification. The whole being should be surrendered. That

is the reason why Lord Krishna says: " tameva saranam gaccha

sarvabhavena bharata, (flee unto Him for shelter with all thy being,

0 Bharata). " The citta, the ego, the mind, the intellect and the

soul, should all be placed at the feet of the Lord. Mira did this and

so obtained the grace of Lord Krishna and became one with him.

 

The vulgar, stiff, obstinate ego is harder than diamond, reinforced

concrete or steel. It is very difficult to melt it. Constant

vigilance and ceaseless effort are necessary to slay this dire enemy

of peace and wisdom. It keeps subtle desires for its own silent

appeasement. Introspect. Find out the subtle desires that lurk in the

corners of your heart, through the search-light of concen­tration

and discrimination. Kill them through regular, silent meditation. "

 

Swami Sivananada

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> shriadishakti , alex arthur <dude11976>

> wrote:

> >

> > A question to both you and Jagbir, I'm just a little

> > curious here, are you able to maintain the witness

> > state even during a conversation with someone. Do both

> > of you have full time jobs that involve meeting

> > people, thinking and processing data? How do you do

> > it, is it a matter of practice, will-power and

> > mediatation? Do you maintain the witness state even

> > during sleep? Please give me some pointers. I often

> > fall asleep trying to be aware and conscious, but i

> > soon drift into a dream.

> >

> >

>

shriadishakti , " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org> wrote:

>

> Dear Alex,

>

> There is a difference between witnessing and thoughtless

> awareness. i believe being a witness is a conscious effort to bear

> the unpleasant. Being thoughtless is a witness who does not

> experience the unpleasant despite being aware.

>

> Maybe it is a lack of clarification but i have never been

> thoughtless for hours as thoughts, mostly useless reflections of

> the reacting ego, still come. However, by consciously reducing the

> number of thoughts, i manage to progressively increase the number

> of thoughtless minutes per hour. This is never constant because

> you are bound to get up on the wrong side of the bed or get a bad

> hair day. The thoughtless state is a marathon taking years. So

> learn to take a deserved rest and enjoy the view.

>

 

Bliss Divine

Swami Sivananda

 

Introspect. Have an inner life always. Let a portion of the mind

and the hands do their work mechanically. An acrobat girl, while

exhibiting her performances, has her attention riveted on the

waterpot she bears on her head although all the time she is

dancing to various tunes.

 

When emotions, moods, sentiments, arise in the mind,

separate them, study their nature, dissect them and analyse

them. Do not identify yourself with them. The real " I " is is entirely

distinct from them. It is the Silent Witness. Master your impulses,

emotions, and moods and rise from the position of a slave to

that of a spiritual king [or queen] who can rule over them with

force and power.

 

Control your thoughts. Just as you retain only the good fruits

from the basket and discard the bad ones, so also keep good

thoughts in your mind and reject the evil ones. Wipe out lust,

greed, and egoism. Entertain only pure holy thoughts.

 

Fully realise for yourself the grave and ruinous consequences of

evil thoughts. This will set you on your guard when the evil

thoughts would come. The moment they come, exert yourself or

divert the mind to some other object of divine thoughts, prayer, or

Japa.

 

Keep the mind fully occupied. Then evil thoughts will not enter.

An idle brain is the devil's workshop. Watch the mind every

minute. Always engage yourself in some work. Avoid loose talk

and gossip. Fill the mind with sublime thoughts, such as those

contained in the Gita, the Upanishads and Yoga-Vasishtha.

 

Drive away from your mind all unnecessary, useless and

obnoxious thoughts. Useless thoughts, impede your spiritual

growth; obnoxious thoughts are stumbling blocks to spiritual

advancement. You are away from God when you entertain

useless thoughts.

 

You must eradicate through introspection all sorts of mean

thoughts, useless thoughts, unworthy thoughts, impure thoughts,

all sexual thoughts, thoughts of jealousy, hatred and

selfishness. You must annihilate all destructive thoughts of

disharmony and discord. You must develop good, loving

sublime thoughts, divine thoughts. Every thought must be of a

constructive nature. It must be strong, positive and definite. The

mental image must be of a clear-cut and well-defined nature.

You must develop right thinking. Every thought must bring peace

and solace to others.

 

The common man does not know what deep thinking is. His

thoughts run riot. There is a great deal of confusion in the mind

sometimes. His mental images are very distorted. It is only

thinkers, philosophers and Yogins who have well-defined,

clear-cut mental images.

 

Thinkers are very few in this world. Thinking is shallow in the

vast majority of persons. Deep thinking needs intense Sadhana

or practice. It takes innumerable births for the proper evolution of

the mind. Then only it can think deeply and properly. A man who

speaks the truth and has moral purity has always powerful

thoughts. One who has controlled anger by long practice has

tremendous thought-power.

 

The fewer the thoughts, the greater the peace. The fewer the

desires, the lesser the thoughts. Remember this always.

 

Every thought that is reduced adds strength and peace to the

mind. Reduction of even one thought will give mental strength

and peace of mind. You may not be able to feel this in the

beginning as you do not possess a subtle intellect; but there is a

spiritual thermometer inside to register the reduction of even a

single thought. If you reduce one thought, the mental strength

that you have gained by this reduction will help you to reduce the

second thought easily.

 

Thnrough constant and intense practice, you can become

waveless or thought-free. The waveless Yogin helps the world

more than the man on the platform...When you are waveless, you

actually permeate and pervade every atom of the universe, purify

and elevate the whole world. The names of waveless Jnanins

such as Jada Bharata and Vamadeva are even now

remembered. They never built Ashramas. They never lectured.

They never published books. The never made disciples. Yet,

what a tremendous influence these waveless Jananins had

produced on the minds of the people! Glory tio such Janains!

 

Bliss Divine

Swami Sivananda