Guest guest Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 Dear Jagbir, I completely agree with you. The divine does not indeed manifest itself in lemons and chilies. 24 hours of foot soaking everyday day wouldn’t help either...yes, you are right. My only contention is that if you have so much faith in the divine, then why hide the speeches of the divine mother because some sahajist told you to! I’m very keen on getting hold of the speeches before 1980. On a tape i was listening to quite recently, Mataji has said that we must read those speeches in particular. However, in the past few years, sahajists have ensured that no information about Sahaja reaches 'newcomers' easily. I've come across many people who, in two years still have no clue about common Sahaj cures. Those who know it, don’t tell others because of some unsaid norm. Why this hypocrisy? Further, if you are on the other end of the spectrum that you want to tell people upfront that she is the Adishakti, then why are you subscribing to their views? Its a shame that you are sitting on all that information. More than that its incomprehensible. You are the last person I’d imagine who wants to win a popularity contest by obeying them. Even books like Dr. H.S. Sharmas on treatments are not made available any more. I did manage to get hold of one set from an obscure bookshop in Cannought Place. It cost me 600 bucks, was in three volumes, each a repition of the previous one, with the only significant change being that each had one-third of the cures!! Is this a money making racket or stairway to the divine?? --- jagbir singh <adishakti_org wrote: > shriadishakti , mahesh khatri > <maheshkhatri> wrote: > > > > We sahajayogis should try to understand that > treatments are only > > aids given to us to reach the state of meditation. > After an hour of > > treatment sahajayogis get up before meditation > thinking it is not > > reqd. To be able to meditate is the goal of > treatment. If after > > treatment you dont meditate the purpose of > treatment is defeated > > and it might not work. > > Actually all the problems actually gets dissolved > in meditation and > > not in treatments. > > Treatments help us to achieve balance and > meditation takes us to > > flight and be one with divine. When one is one > with divine, all the > > problems get dissolved automatically. > > > > Sahaja yoga means meditation meditation and > meditation. > > > > Dear Mahesh, > > i agree 100% that problems get dissolved in > meditation and not > treatments. Just like idols, treatments are a > visible, tangible means > for neophytes to INITIALLY pay direct attention to > and dissolve their > problems. > > Within weeks or months it should become clear that > the Divine does > not manifest in chillies and lemons, and that it the > attention and > meditation from within that really counts. > > Unfortunately many SYs are still stuck at the > beginners level. Like > little children they are mesmerized by the toys (and > fakes) made > available to them by their Mother. The sad part is > that even after > years and decades they have yet to outgrow them. > > i think the worst are the Yuvashakti who seem > increasingly obsessed > with lemons and chillies, fearing spiders, bats, > cats, dogs, bhoots > and what not. Isn't this cause for alarm and action? > What are our > leaders doing? When mature and established SYs do > nothing to allay > their unfounded fears and delusion, then even > meditation may not > work. They will grow up believing that right-sided > aliens from the > future are already invading Earth on UFOs. Think i > am making this up? > > Sahaja Yoga is in deep trouble because moderators > and leaders allow > their youth to fear spiders, bats, cats, dogs, > bhoots and UFOs. They > have been diseased for just too long. All the > chillies and lemons > available at the local market will not help. Neither > will footsoaking > 10 times a day in the Indian Ocean. If they were one > with the Divine > all the problems would have been dissolved > automatically, especially > after all the treatments. Apparently that is not the > case. > > sahajist, care to comment? > > jagbir > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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