i just got this realization concerning devotees of ex-false gurus

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shriadishakti , " jagbir singh "

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> [sri_Chinmoy_Information] Re: another story

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> Good point Groshedout, I left of my own accord and, speaking of

> the feeling of freedom, when leaving, I was flooded with ecstasy

> for days.

>

> I heard many times after leaving that the guru was telling people

> I would be back - this made me laugh becaise I knew I would never,

> ever go back. I did feel a connection still there for a long time

> but as I continued in my own spiritual study, I became more and

> more aware of what a joke Chinmoy is and of how pathetic his

> spiritual philosophy is. That helped me to sever any inner

> connection that may have remained.

>

> Now, since reading the testimonials of the three women who

> inspired the setting up of this forum, I have definitely dispensed

> with any remaining respect I may have had for the man.

>

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i just got this realization that these ex-disciples of false gurus

have continued on their spiritual path and bloomed. For weeks i have

been following these forums and the emerging awareness is that these

ex-disciples are healing themselves and growing into even more

enlightened and spiritual souls. Despite suffering so much

emotional, sexual and economic abuse, devastated in trust and

beliefs, they do not feel bitter or angry as they should be. On

the contrary, they are forgiving Chinmoy and forging their own

spiritual paths and growing stronger in mind, body and soul.

 

Then we have a few ex-SYs from the late 80's who ridiculed Shri

Mataji's claim as the Adi Shakti. (At that time there was no

www.adishakti.org to back Her up.) i have never experienced so much

hate and anger against someone whose only fault is that She claimed

to be the Adi Shakti, a claim that was believed to be a lie by this

tiny band. And when you compare the immense damage to the human soul

that Chinmoy inflicted on his disciples over decades, only the

lowest of humanity can feel so much sustained outrage and anger over

Shri Mataji's simple claim as Adi Shakti.

 

But unlike ex-devotees of other gurus who became better spiiritual

beings, those who ridiculed Shri Mataji have turned into atheists.

Why is this strangely so when others, so brutally abused in mind,

body and soul, can grow in collective consciousness? Why has the

spiritual path of the few ex-SYs taken a complete U-turn towards

disbelieve in God? Why is is becoming increasingly clear they will

never ever tread the path of the Divine again?

 

The only thing that comes to my mind for their satanic end is this

warning, as ominous as the thunder and lightning beginning to blast

Montreal:

 

 

And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall

be forgiven him:

But unto him that blasphemeth against the Holy Ghost, it shall not

be forgiven.

 

Luke 12:10

 

 

 

Verily I say unto you, all sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of

men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:

But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost, hath never

forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.

 

Mark 3:28-29

 

 

 

Wherefore I say unto you, all manner of sin and blasphemy, shall be

forgiven unto men:

But the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven

unto men.

And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be

forgiven him:

But whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be

forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.

 

Matthew 12:31-32

 

 

 

" The gravest of all sins is blasphemy against the Holy Ghost. One

may speak even against Jesus Christ in ignorance and, upon

repentance, be forgiven, but knowingly to sin against the Holy Ghost

by denying its influence after having received it is unpardonable

(Matt. 12:31-32; Jacob 7:19; Alma 39:6), and the consequences are

inescapable. Such denial dooms the perpetrator to the hell of the

second spiritual death (TPJS, p. 361). This extreme judgment comes

because the person sins knowingly against the light, thereby

severing himself from the redeeming grace of Christ. "

 

www.mormons.org/

 

 

 

" The sin or blasphemy against the Holy Ghost is mentioned in Matthew

12:22-32; Mark 3:22-30; Luke 12:10 (cf. 11:14-23); and Christ

everywhere declares that it shall not be pardoned. In what does it

consist? If we examine all the passages alluded to, there can be

little doubt as to the reply. . . .

 

He shows them that it is by " the Spirit of God " that He casts out

devils, and then He concludes: " therefore I say to you: Every sin

and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but the blasphemy of the Spirit

shall not be forgiven. And whosoever shall speak a word against the

Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but he that shall speak

against the Holy Ghost, it shall not he forgiven him, neither in

this world, nor in the world to come. "

 

So, to sin against the Holy Ghost is to confound Him with the spirit

of evil, it is to deny, from pure malice, the Divine character of

works manifestly Divine. . . .

 

But the Fathers of the Church, commenting on the Gospel texts we are

treating of, did not confine themselves to the meaning given above.

Whether it be that they wished to group together all objectively

analogous cases, or whether they hesitated and wavered when

confronted with this point of doctrine, which St. Augustine declares

(Serm. ii de verbis Domini, c. v) one of the most difficult in

Scripture. "

 

www.newadvent.org/

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shriadishakti , " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org> wrote:

>

> i just got this realization that these ex-disciples of false gurus

> have continued on their spiritual path and bloomed. For weeks i

> have been following these forums and the emerging awareness is

> that these ex-disciples are healing themselves and growing into

> even more enlightened and spiritual souls. Despite suffering so

> much emotional, sexual and economic abuse, devastated in trust and

> beliefs, they do not feel bitter or angry as they should be. On

> the contrary, they are forgiving Chinmoy and forging their own

> spiritual paths and growing stronger in mind, body and soul.

>

> Then we have a few ex-SYs from the late 80's who ridiculed Shri

> Mataji's claim as the Adi Shakti. (At that time there was no

> www.adishakti.org to back Her up.) i have never experienced so

> much hate and anger against someone whose only fault is that She

> claimed to be the Adi Shakti, a claim that was believed to be a

> lie by this tiny band. And when you compare the immense damage to

> the human soul that Chinmoy inflicted on his disciples over

> decades, only the lowest of humanity can feel so much sustained

> outrage and anger over Shri Mataji's simple claim as Adi Shakti.

>

>

 

My spiritual longings returned of course. God would not let that die

completely. I went off in some very strange directions after that.

My basic philosophy from that time was an aphorism I got off a

Celestial Seasonings tea bag. It said " Avoid costly middlemen, deal

directly with God. "

And I do.

 

Shalom to all..........Jamie

 

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