Visualization - Try continuing and see where you will end up.

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shriadishakti , alex arthur <dude11976>

wrote:

>

> --- > Alex, there is a huge difference between having a

> > vision, say of your best friend who migrated overseas, and

> > actually talking to him over a mango shake at your favorite

> > Bombay Palace after his return years later. Having a vision is

> > one of the easiest to achieve because your mind can be induced

> > to image him after some practice. Try to do this and you will

> > understand what i mean. BTW, have you not had unpleasant

> > thoughts and visions while meditating? Try continuing and see

> > where you will end up.

>

> Dear Jagbir,

>

> Would be grateful if you could please elaborate on the

> last line. This is a topic I was looking forward to

> discuss with you and you brought it up quite by

> coincidence. I don't mean the part about the meetings

> with the adishakti, which i say again that i am

> neutral to. I only said that whatever it is, if i am

> meant to find out by personal experience, then I will.

>

> I was actually referring to the 'try continuing and

> see where you end up'

>

> From what i have read over the years, visualization is

> a goal setting process, it help you set a concrete

> target and channelises diving energies towards your

> goal. But what specifically did you mean by 'ending

> up'

>

 

Exactly! Visualization is a goal-setting process increasingly used

to achieve set targets, whether making the required sales to win an

all-expense paid trip for two to Club Med Tahiti, passing the final

UK bar exams, or making the critical final burst of speed in the

5,000 meters at Athens that just barely clinches the gold. It helps

you set a concrete target and channelises diving energies towards

your goal. But it is all make believe and chances are that you may

fail.

 

However, this is a positive way to picture and achieve goals that

though not existing, can be achieved in the future. You see yourself

succeed in making the required sales by selling to total strangers

and senile elders you have not even met. Then isn't it great to

picture yourself in a Lexus GX 470 SUV because you won a class

action suit that allowed you to pocket an obscene 40% cut of a $1.2

million-dollar settlement. How about winning the Olympic gold and

the subsequent drug test, and looking forward to signing a lucrative

Nike deal ............. knowing full well that the latest technology

still cannot detect the performance-enhancing steroids you have been

taking? It is still make believe but fringing on fantasy.

 

But what if you use visualization to meeting Jesus in heaven or,

depending on inclination, Satan in hell. Imagine Jesus telling you

that you are a prophet destined to wear the Kalki Krown. Or Satan

hugging and revealing that you are his chosen one to lead the

Antichrist charge. This is fantasy bordering on madness.

 

What if visualization convinces that you are indeed Shri Rama or the

God that hears? This is visualization leading to madness, a

frightening figment of one's megalomaniac imagination.

 

You will end up what you desire most intensely - winning a trip to

Tahiti or becoming the God that others must hear. It is all about a

imaginary future that does not exist. However, i am not telling you

that you visualization to be sunbathing on a Tahiti beach won't come

true. Just don't tell me that you have become God.

 

 

> Also, you did not get the full meaning of my last mail

> where I cited the reasons for not initiating anyone

> into sahaj. when i said people turn into 'paranid

> puppets', I also meant the psychopathic obession to

> avoid any and all books that they might have little

> devils sitting at the seams. They avoid people who

> arent interested in Sahaj..dont listen to Deepak

> Chopra cause he's the devil in disguise..oh i could go

> on for eternity.

>

 

Alex, if you can find a magic mantra to solve the pressing problems

of Sahaja Yoga i will build a small idol of you and pay obeisance

with the best sandalwood incense money can buy. Deal?

 

 

jagbir

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shriadishakti , " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org> wrote:

> >

> > --- > Alex, there is a huge difference between having a

> > > vision, say of your best friend who migrated overseas, and

> > > actually talking to him over a mango shake at your favorite

> > > Bombay Palace after his return years later. Having a vision is

> > > one of the easiest to achieve because your mind can be induced

> > > to image him after some practice. Try to do this and you will

> > > understand what i mean. BTW, have you not had unpleasant

> > > thoughts and visions while meditating? Try continuing and see

> > > where you will end up.

> >

shriadishakti , alex arthur <dude11976>

wrote:

> > Dear Jagbir,

> >

> > Would be grateful if you could please elaborate on the

> > last line. This is a topic I was looking forward to

> > discuss with you and you brought it up quite by

> > coincidence. I don't mean the part about the meetings

> > with the adishakti, which i say again that i am

> > neutral to. I only said that whatever it is, if i am

> > meant to find out by personal experience, then I will.

> >

> > I was actually referring to the 'try continuing and

> > see where you end up'

> >

> > From what i have read over the years, visualization is

> > a goal setting process, it help you set a concrete

> > target and channelises diving energies towards your

> > goal. But what specifically did you mean by 'ending

> > up'

> >

shriadishakti , " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org> wrote:

>

> Exactly! Visualization is a goal-setting process increasingly used

> to achieve set targets, whether making the required sales to win

> an all-expense paid trip for two to Club Med Tahiti, passing the

> final UK bar exams, or making the critical final burst of speed in

> the 5,000 meters at Athens that just barely clinches the gold. It

> helps you set a concrete target and channelises diving energies

> towards your goal. But it is all make believe and chances are that

> you may fail.

>

> However, this is a positive way to picture and achieve goals that

> though not existing, can be achieved in the future. You see

> yourself succeed in making the required sales by selling to total

> strangers and senile elders you have not even met. Then isn't it

> great to picture yourself in a Lexus GX 470 SUV because you won a

> class action suit that allowed you to pocket an obscene 40% cut of

> a $1.2 million-dollar settlement. How about winning the Olympic

> gold and the subsequent drug test, and looking forward to signing

> a lucrative Nike deal ............. knowing full well that the

> latest technology still cannot detect the performance-enhancing

> steroids you have been taking? It is still make believe but

> fringing on fantasy.

>

> But what if you use visualization to meeting Jesus in heaven or,

> depending on inclination, Satan in hell. Imagine Jesus telling you

> that you are a prophet destined to wear the Kalki Krown. Or Satan

> hugging and revealing that you are his chosen one to lead the

> Antichrist charge. This is fantasy bordering on madness.

>

> What if visualization convinces that you are indeed Shri Rama or

> the God that hears? This is visualization leading to madness, a

> frightening figment of one's megalomaniac imagination.

>

> You will end up what you desire most intensely - winning a trip to

> Tahiti or becoming the God that others must hear. It is all about

> a imaginary future that does not exist. However, i am not telling

> you that you visualization to be sunbathing on a Tahiti beach

> won't come true. Just don't tell me that you have become God.

>

>

 

Kenneth Hagin - False Prophet by Rev. Robert S. Liichow, 1998

" Mr. Hagin has long been touted as a prophet by many within the

charismatic movement for years. Without a doubt, all people within

the Word of Faith Movement look to Mr. Hagin as a genuine prophet of

God. The facts seem to indicate otherwise! Here are three examples

of Hagin's prophetic ability - all of which failed to come to pass. "

 

 

The Counterfeit Dreams and Visions

of " Prophet " Kenneth Hagin

 

 

Kenneth E. Hagin is the acknowledged " father " of the modern Word of

Faith Movement and is viewed by charismatic Christians globally as a

true prophet of the Lord Jesus Christ. Kenneth Hagin has been active

in ministry since the late 1930's and worked around the fringes of

the Pentecostal healing revival of the 1940's through late 1950's.

 

Kenneth Hagin started out in the ministry holding evangelical

meetings as a Baptist (1934-1937) and then was licensed by the

Assemblies of God in 1937 and began to Pastor from 1937-1949).

Beginning in 1949 brother Hagin was an itinerant evangelist and

Bible teacher.

 

" As a result of his final vision in 1963, he set up his own office

at his home in Garland, Texas, for the distribution of his tapes and

books.... Hagin founded Rhema Bible Training Center in 1974. By 1988

more than 10,000 students had graduated, and his daily radio

program, " Faith Seminar of the Air, " was being broadcast on more

than 180 stations in thirty-nine states, with a short-wave audience

in about eighty other nations. By this time more than three million

of his eighty-five books and almost half a million cassette tapes of

his sermons have been distributed annually.

 

Kenneth Hagin is a man with no formal seminary training or college

education, yet his school is viewed as the premier Bible training

school among charismatic believers. Rev. Hagin's teachings are

accepted without question by the rank and file charismatic and many

of the most popular charismatic ministers acknowledge Hagin as their

spiritual father. Some of those who publicly acknowledge their debt

to " Dad " Hagin include Fred Price, Kenneth and Gloria Copeland,

Norval Hayes, Buddy Harrison, and Keith Butler, to name only a few.

 

One of the reasons Kenneth Hagin and his message has been so widely

accepted is because of the claims he himself makes as to the origin

of his teachings. His ministry since 1950 has been based upon

several alleged visionary encounters with Jesus Christ.

 

" As a prophet, Hagin communicates revelation that is received by way

of divine voice, vision, or visitation. As a teacher, he exposits

the Scripture in a plain and often humorous fashion. When both

office are combined, the result is a ministry that appears utterly

supernatural, and yet thoroughly biblical. "

 

Brother Hagin's ministry consists of two basic ingredients: (1)

The teachings of E.W. Kenyon, whose work he intentionally or

unintentionally plagiarized. (2) The revelations he supposedly

received via direct communication through visions with the Lord

Jesus Christ. For the purpose of this writing I will confine myself

to considering the visions of Rev. Hagin and their content.

 

Rev. Hagin is among the most mystical preachers of international

status alive today. His life as a visionary began at age 15. On

April 22, 1933 at 7:40 PM Rev. Hagin died and descended to hell:

 

" Then the inner man rushed out of my body and left my body lying

dead, with the eyes set and the flesh cold. . .I have proof that I

was actually dead. My eyes were set, my heart stopped beating, and

my pulse had ceased. . .Finally, far below me, I could see lights

flickering on the walls of the caverns of the damned. The lights

were caused by the fires of hell. . .Upon reaching the bottom of the

pit, I became conscious of some kind of spirit being by my

side. . .a voice spoke from far above the blackness, above the

earth, and above the heavens. I don't know if it was the voice of

God, Jesus, or an angel, or who. . .I slipped back into my body as

easily as a man slips into his trousers in the morning - through my

mouth. "

 

According to Hagin he died and was taken down to the very gates of

hell by some creature. Upon reaching the gates of hell a loud speaks

from far above in an unknown tongue and Hagin is released by the

creature and he floats back up and into his body via his mouth!

 

If words mean anything what we have is a person who died and was the

resurrected from the dead. He stated he was dead (page 5) and then

was supernaturally brought back from hell into his body (page 6).

 

" My heart stopped beating for the second time. . .I felt the blood

cease to circulate. The tips of my toes went numb - then my feet,

ankles, knees, hips, stomach, and heart. I leaped out of my body and

began to descend: down, down down. . .The voice spoke from heaven

and again my spirit came up out of that place - back to my room and

back into my body. The only difference this time was that I came up

at the foot of the bed. "

 

For the second time Rev. Hagin " dies " and leaves his body. Again, he

descends into the pit, and again some voice speaks from above and

Hagin is " resurrected " and re-enters his body via the foot of his

bed.

 

Hagin upon coming back to his body this time leaves parting words

for his sister and two brothers. Why parting words? Because Hagin is

about to die for a third time and descend into hell.

 

" ...my heart stopped for the third time. I could fell the

circulation as it cut off again - and I leaped out of my body and

began to descend. . .Thank God that voice spoke. I don't know who

it was - I didn't see anybody - I just hear the voice. . .I began

to pray, " O God! I come to you in the Name of Lord Jesus Christ. I

ask You to forgive me of my sins and to cleanse me from all

sin. . .That was the very hour I was born again due to the mercy of

God through the prayers of my mother. "

 

This time on his way down Hagin begins to cry out to God that he is

a church member, that he has been baptized in water. . . all to no

avail. Yet God spoke again and Hagin begins to rise from the gates

of hell. This time Hagin repents of his sins and calls on the name

of Jesus and he is saved!

 

I am very glad that brother Hagin was saved but I have a problem

when a person says that they were saved after they had died

physically. Based on what he has stated we are to believe that he

(1) died, (2) went down to hell, (3) and was born again while out of

his body.

 

I realize that Hagin has probably not thought through some of the

implications, but I have considered some of them. If what Hagin is

saying is in fact true, the theological implications are staggering!

This means a lost person can die, and on their way to hell repent of

their sins and be born again. In fact, in Hagin's case he died

three times! What is important to keep in mind is that Hagin does

not say that he thought he died, or that he simply left his body.

No, he emphatically states that he died. " My experience of being

brought back from the dead is not new. Jesus raised three people

from the dead. " He equates his experiences on par with those of whom

Jesus raised from the dead in the Bible.

 

If Hagin's testimony is true then the Scriptures pertaining to

the condition of lost people are wrong! How so? To begin with you

have a lost man is dead in sin (Eph. 2:5) and without hope (Eph

2:12). In fact, the lost man does not love God nor does he seek

after Him (Rom 3:10). Jesus said that He chose us, we did not chose

Him (Jh 15:16).

 

What we see in Hagin's experience is the exact opposite to what

the Scripture plainly teach. We have a lost man, thus a spiritually

dead man, crying out to a God he does not know or love to save him.

We have a lost man choosing Christ, a man who hates the light (Jh

1:5) and does not understand the things of the spirit (2 Cor. 2:14).

We have a man whose mind and will are at enmity with God (Rom 8:7)

and cannot please God . . . doing that which please God, he calls

upon Him!

 

In this testimony brother Hagin relates a couple key ingredients of

standard Word of Faith (WOF) doctrine. First, to adherents of WOF

teachings, it is no problem to believe that a person can die and be

born-again in hell (or in Hagin's case on the way down to hell).

After all, Jesus was born-again man in the pit of hell. Hagin and

all the clones after him agree with Kenyon's theology:

 

" You can now understand that He uttered the sentence, " It is

finished. " You can now understand that He did not mean that He had

finished His Substitutionary work, but that He had finished the work

the Father gave Him to do first. . .If Jesus paid the penalty of Sin

on the cross, then Sin is but a physical act. If Hid death paid it,

then every man could die for himself. Sin is in the spirit realm.

His physical death was but a mean to an end. . .When Jesus died, His

spirit was taken by the Adversary and carried to the place where the

sinner's spirit goes when he dies. . .He is the first born out of

spiritual death, the first person who was ever born again. . .His

spirit absolutely became impregnated with the sin nature of the

world. . .He was made to be sin. "

 

So it is no stretch for them to accept that Hagin, like Jesus died a

sinner, and was raised from the dead a righteous born-again man.

 

The second WOF concept is seen when Hagin states " I looked at the

clock and saw it was 20 minutes before 8 o'clock. That was the

very hour I was born again due to the mercy of God through the

prayers of my mother. " (underlining bold type added)

 

I was taught (and taught) that God cannot do anything in the earth

unless His people pray. So yes God was merciful, but that mercy was

able to be released on Kenneth Hagin's behalf because his mother

prayed. If she had not prayed God would not have been able to show

His mercy to Hagin. God's ability is released through our

prayers, this is standard WOF teaching regarding prayer and the

authority we have as humans and as believers.

 

Certainly God answers prayer, He uses prayer as a means to His ends,

yet God is not bound or loosed by our prayers. He is totally

sovereign (Is 45:22) and He moves according to His free will and He

is in no way dependent upon us for anything. He is the Creator and

we are the creation, this fact is sorely misunderstood by most

Charismatics.

 

On September 1950 in Rockwall Texas Hagin is holding a tent revival.

He and the participants were praying around the platform.

 

" I began to pray in other tongues, and I heard a voice say, " Come up

hither " . . .I thought everybody heard it. " Come up hither, " the

voice said again. Then I looked and saw Jesus standing about where

the top of the ten would be. As I looked again, the tent had

disappeared . . .God had permitted me to see into the spirit realm.

Jesus was standing there, and I stood in His presence. He was

holding a crown in His hands. . .It seemed as if I went with Him

through the air until we came to a beautiful city. . .The Jesus

turned to me and said, " Now let us go down to hell. " Jesus told

me, " warn men and women about this place, " . . .He then brought me

back to earth. I became aware I was knelling on the platform. . .As

he stood there, He talked to me about my ministry. He told me some

things in general that He later explained in more detail in another

vision. "

 

" Jesus " appears to Kenneth for several reasons. First He shows him

the soul winners crown. " Jesus " tells him it is for all His

children, but many are too busy and because of this " souls are lost

because they will not obey Me. " So again, we encounter salvation

depending upon man and not God. First we saw God's mercy released

via his mother's prayers. Now we are told by " Jesus " not less,

that souls are lost because His people do not obey Him and witness

to them! Without going any further I can assure the reader fully

that the being portraying himself as Jesus Christ, was not the

Biblical Jesus. If this was the real Jesus, then He has changed His

theology since the Holy Spirit had the Apostle John pen the

following text:

 

John 6:37-40 All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him

that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out. 38 For I came down

from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent

me. 39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all

which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up

again at the last day. 40 And this is the will of him that sent me,

that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have

everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

 

6:37. Jesus then gave the ultimate explanation of their lack of

faith: the Father works sovereignly in peoples lives. There is an

election of God which is the Fathers gift to the Son. The Son has no

concern that His work will be ineffective, for the Father will

enable people to come to Jesus. Jesus has confidence. But people may

have confidence also. (Cf. the crippled mans response to Jesus

question, Do you want to get well? [5:6-9]) One who comes to Jesus

for salvation will by no means be driven away (cf.{cf. confer,

compare} 6:39). 6:38-39. Jesus then repeated His claim about His

heavenly origin. The reason He came down from heaven was to do the

will of the Father who sent Him. The Fathers will is that those whom

He gives to the Son will not suffer a single loss and all will be

raised to life in the resurrection (cf. vv. 40, 44, 54). This

passage is strong in affirming the eternal security of the believer.

6:40. This verse repeats and reinforces the ideas of the previous

verses. One who looks and believes on Jesus for salvation has his

destiny secure. The divine decree has insured it (cf. Rom. 8:28-30).

He has eternal life (John 6:47, 50-51, 54, 58) and will be raised at

the last day (cf. vv. 39, 44, 54).

 

Jesus plainly taught that He would not lose one person whom the

Father had given Him! So for " Jesus " to come to Hagin in 1950 and

tell him that people are in hell because of their disobedience would

be a direct contradiction of His own teaching. Salvation is not left

up to men, but is the work of God. After this startling

revelation " Jesus " takes Hagin up to see a beautiful city. They do

not enter the city, just take a look. Then the being turns to Hagin

and says " let us go down to hell. " Hagin sees people engulfed in

flames and is told to warn people about this place. Then Hagin is

brought back to his revival meeting and Jesus hangs around revealing

to him future aspects of his ministry. Then " Jesus " disappears. Up

to this point brother Hagin wants us to believe the following:

 

* He leaves his body and meets Jesus in person above his revival tent

* Jesus shows him the soul winners crown and instructs him about our

obligation to save the lost

* Jesus takes Hagin to some celestial city

* Jesus takes Hagin to hell

* Jesus takes Hagin back into his body

* Jesus reveals to Hagin further gnosis about his future ministry

 

However, Hagin goes on the tell us that the revelations did not stop

there:

 

" About that time the Holy Spirit came upon me again. It seemed as if

a wind were blowing on me, and I fell flat on my face on the

platform. As I lay under the power of God, it seemed as if I were

standing high on a plain somewhere in space and I could see for

miles and miles around me. . .I felt so lonely. I was not conscious

of my earthly surroundings. As I looked to the west, I saw what

appeared to be a tiny dot on the horizon. . .Soon I could see it was

a horse. . .When the horseman came to me, he pulled on the reins and

stopped. . .He passed the scroll from his left hand to his right

hand and handed it to me. As I unrolled the scroll, which was a roll

of paper 12 or 14 inches long, he said, " Take and read. " At the tope

of the page in big bold, black print were the words " WAR AN

DESTRUCTION. " I was struck dumb. He laid his right hand on my head

and said, " Read, in the Name of Jesus Christ. " I began to read what

was written on the paper, and as the words instructed me, I looked

and saw what I had just read about. "

 

Next we are told that the Holy Spirit transports Hagin to some

cosmic plain where he is alone and he sees a rider approaching from

the west. The rider comes up to him and gives him a scroll which he

is commanded to read. Hagin is struck dumb and needs this

supernatural rider to lay hands on him and commands him to read in

the Name of Jesus Christ, the revelations on the scroll. As he read

the scroll he was able to see what he read coming to pass before his

eyes.

 

" The scroll was written in the first person, and seemed as if Jesus

Himself were speaking. I read, " America is receiving her last call.

Some nations already have received their last call and never will

receive another. . . " THE TIME OF THE END OF ALL THINGS IS AT

HAND " . . .Jesus also said this was the last great revival. He went

on the say, " All the gifts of the Spirit will be in operation in the

Church in these last days, and the Church will do greater things

than even the Early Church did. It will have greater power, signs,

and wonders than were recorded in the Acts of the Apostles. . . More

and more miracles will be performed in the last days which are just

ahead, for it is time for the gift of working of miracles to be more

in prominence. . .Many of my own people will not accept the moving

of my Spirit, and will turn back and will not be ready to meet Me at

my coming. many will be deceived by false prophets and miracles of

satanic origin. But follow the Word of God, the Spirit of God, and

Me, and you will not be deceived. I am gathering my own together and

am preparing them, for the time is short. " bold type added)

 

What is interesting to me about the message the scroll contained is

that it is in complete agreement with the current doctrinal error

that was sweeping Pentecostalism at that time. Percy Hunt and George

Warnock had been teaching what came to be called Latter Rain

Doctrines since 1947 (actually the doctrinal roots go back as far as

1910). Hagin's scroll parrots these teachings to the letter.

Latter Rain proponents emphasized the outpouring of the supernatural

gifts of the Holy Spirit on the remnant of God. These gifts would be

manifest to a degree that would exceed those of the original

Apostles. They also stressed that the last great revival was on

(keep in mind 1950 was just about the middle of the healing revival)

and that America was heading towards judgment. " Warn this

generation, as did Noah his generation, for judgment is about to

fall. And these sayings shall be fulfilled shortly, for I am coming

soon. " Jesus repeated, " This is the last great revival. "

 

Those Christians who question, and do not accept the coming signs,

wonders, and miracles apparently will not be ready to meet Jesus at

His return. So according to Hagin's scroll the criteria for

Christian readiness is to embrace " the moving of my Spirit. " The

Bible does not teach this at all!

 

1 John 3:2-3

Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet

what we shall be. We know that, when He appears, we shall be like

Him, because we shall see Him just as He is. 3 And everyone who has

this hope fixed on Him purifies himself, just as He is pure.

 

What prepares the believer to meet Christ is the unshifting hope we

have in Him, not the embrace of present day truth or the current

move of the Spirit.

 

It is also interesting that the scroll warns of false prophets and

miracles of satanic origin. Most of the visions I have studied

usually add this caveat in them, to watch out for demonic

counterfeits. What amazes me is that none of those who relate their

dreams and visions ever take time to consider whether or not they

themselves have been blinded by an angel of light (2 Cor 11:13). Yet

when you take an objective Biblical look at the content of the

dreams and visions and see what is alleged to have been said by

Jesus, an Angel, etc. you will find that the statements are either

contra-biblical or extra-biblical.

 

Hagin goes on to say that people present in the tent meeting said he

read from the scroll aloud for 30 minutes. When he finished reading

it, he gave it back to the rider, who galloped off back to wherever

he had come from. Hagin says he was then conscious of the fact that

he was still flat on his face on the floor (I wonder how people

could hear him read for 30 minutes in that position?). Now we can

add to our list these aspects of his experience:

 

* Hagin is knocked on his face by the Holy Spirit

* He is taken out of his body (again)

* Hagin is transported to a flat, barren plain, devoid of all life

* Hagin sees a rider approach

* The rider gives Hagin a scroll and tells him to read

* Hagin reads and sees the events of the scroll, people present hear

him " read " the scroll

* Hagin comes back to himself realizes he is still face down on the

floor

 

The Lord isn't finished His revelatory work yet. While Hagin is

face down on the floor he hears a voice say:

 

" Come up hither. Come up to the throne of God! Again I saw Jesus

standing about where the top of the ten should be. . .When I reached

Him, together we continued on to heaven. We came to the throne of

God, and I beheld it in all its splendor. I was not able to look

upon the face of God; I only beheld His form.

 

Hagin leaves his body, has a personal meeting with Jesus, returns to

his body, gets taken out of his body, meets a rider on horseback, is

given a prophetic scroll, reads it, is returned to his body,

then " Jesus " calls Hagin out of his body again, he ascends to the

throne of Almighty God. This would normally strain the credulity of

most Christians, yet the average charismatic believer fully accepts

his account. After the Lord explains the four phases of brother

Hagin's ministry to him he is given a special anointing from the

Lord of glory:

 

" Then the Lord said to me, " Stretch forth thine hand! " He held His

own hand out before Him and I looked into them. . .Instead of scars

I saw in the palms of His hands the wounds of the crucifixion -

three-cornered, jagged holes. Each hole was large enough for me to

have put my finger in it. . .As I looked upon the wounds in His

hands. . .He laid the finger of His right hand in the palm of my

right hand and then my left. The moment He did, my hands began to

burn as if a coal of fire had been placed in them. Then Jesus told

me to kneel down before Him. When I did, He laid His hands upon my

head, saying that He had called me and had given me a special

anointing to minister to the sick. He went on to instruct me that

when I pray and lay hands on the sick, I was to lay one hand on each

side of the body. If I felt the fire jump from hand to hand, an evil

spirit or demon was present in that body causing the

affliction. . .If the fire, or the anointing, in my hands did not

jump from hand to hand, it was a case needing healing only. I should

pray for the person in Jesus Name, and if he would believe and

accept it, the anointing would leave my hands and go into that

person's body, driving out the disease and brining healing. "

 

There is a great deal which bears scrutiny in this segment of

brother Hagins's account. To begin with he sees holes in the

palms of " Jesus " hands. It is a physical impossibility for a person

to be nailed to a cross with the nails going through their palms.

The weight of the human body could not be supported by nails in the

palms. Archeologists agree that the nails used probably were placed

just behind the wrists of Jesus:

 

But new light has been thrown on the subject by archaeological work

in Judea. In the summer of 1968 a team of archaeologists under V.

Tzaferis discovered four Jewish tombs at Giv & #1313;t ha-Mivtar (Ras

el-Masaref), Ammunition Hill, near Jerusalem, where there was an

ossuary containing the only extant bones of a (young) crucified man,

dating from probably between ad{ad anno Domini} 7 and ad{ad anno

Domini} 66, judging from Herodian pottery found there. Thorough

research has been made into the causes and nature of his death and

may throw considerable light on our Lord's form of death. The

young man's arms (not his hands) were nailed to the patibulum, the

cross-beam, which might indicate that Lk. 24:39; Jn. 20:20, 25, 27

should be translated `arms'. The weight of the body was

probably borne by a plank (sedecula) nailed to the simplex, the

upright beam, as a support for the buttocks. The legs had been bent

at the knees and twisted back so that the calves were parallel to

the patibulum or cross-bar, with the ankles under the buttocks. One

iron nail (still in situ) had been driven through both his heels

together, with his right foot above the left. A fragment shows that

the cross was of olive wood. His legs had both been broken,

presumably by a forcible blow, like those of Jesus' two companions

in Jn. 19:32. (Bold type added)

 

Brother Hagin attempts to validate his visionary experience by

citing John 20:25 where Thomas says " . . .except I shall see in his

hands the print of the nails. . . " What Hagin failed to realize is

that the Jews considered the " hand " to be any part from the elbow

down. On the physical evidence alone the being brother Hagin was

speaking to could not have been the Biblical Jesus.

 

More astounding than the nail scarred palms is the alleged

commission that Jesus gives brother Hagin. The purpose for Hagin

coming up to the throne room of heaven was to be personally

commissioned by the Lord Jesus Christ with a special anointing to

heal the sick. " Jesus " lays his hands on Hagin's head and tells

him that " he " has called him to minister to the sick via a special

anointing.

 

Whenever brother Hagin lays his hands on sick people he will (from

this point on in 1950) be able to discern whether the person is sick

due to (1) an evil spirit, (2) a demon, or (3) just physically ill.

He will know this because the anointing fire will jump (or not jump)

from hand to hand! If Hagin can get the sick person to believe this,

then the anointing will flow out of Hagin's hands into the sick

person and he, Hagin, will know they are healed!

 

The anointing given to Kenneth Hagin is so special it is not found

anywhere in the Bible. He has received, personally, from the nail-

pierced hands of Jesus a power not given to any of the people within

the confines of the written Word. Nowhere in Scripture is such

an " anointing " spoken of. Nowhere in Scripture do we read on Jesus

giving anyone the ability to discern the cause of an illness by the

physical sensation of fire jumping from hand to hand! Yet does

anyone within the Pentecost/charismatic circle question this?

 

In fact, I find it interesting that during the healing revival (1940-

1950's) the main healing evangelists all claimed to have been given

a tangible healing anointing which was felt in their hands. Probably

the two most famous healing evangelists of that time who made such

claims were Oral Roberts and William Branham. With this in mind

brother Hagin's claim to feel the fire jump from hand to hand was

not hard for people to swallow. Bigger evangelists than he had

already been making claims of that nature for almost five years

prior to his being " anointed " to heal.

 

After this special call by " Jesus, " the laying on of hands, and the

imparting of this special anointing Hagin begs not to be sent into

the healing ministry. Jesus rebukes him and Hagin relents and agrees

to obey this divine charge:

 

" I'll go with you and stand by your side as you pray for the

sick, and many times you will see Me. Occasionally I will open the

eyes of someone in the audience and they will say, " Why, I saw Jesus

standing by that man as he prayed for the sick. "

 

" Jesus " personally commits to be with Hagin when he prays for the

sick. In fact, many times Hagin will personally get to see Jesus

standing by his side and Jesus will open the eyes of revival

participants and allow them to see Him. After this throne room

experience they head back to earth:

 

" Jesus then journeyed with me back to the earth, and I realized that

I still lay on my face on the floor. he talked with me there a

moment and then disappeared. My hands burned for three days just

like I had a coal of fire in each of them. Now when I wait upon the

Lord in prayer and fasting, the same anointing comes upon me again. "

 

Brother Hagin gives no explanation why they went up to the " throne

room " of heaven, or why Jesus did not commission him when He first

appeared to Hagin earlier that day. Hagin does explain that this

special anointing can come and go; " if the anointing leaves you,

fast and pray until it comes back " . When he feels the anointing has

left him all that he has to do is some fasting and praying and it

will come back. There is no explanation about what would cause this

anointing to leave, all we know is what Hagin must do to get it

back. Before I go onto brother Hagin's next gnostic experience it

is necessary to take some time and consider what the Bible has to

say about the anointing and compare it to what Pentecostal and

charismatics mean when they use that term.

 

The working charismatic definition of " the anointing " is an

ineffable supernatural power given by the Holy Spirit to accomplish

a task or ministry. The anointing is felt by the minister and can be

transmitted to others through the laying on of hands. It is this

tangible power flowing from the minister to the recipient which

causes them to " fall under the power " when prayed for. Sometimes the

anointing is described as power, heat, electricity, or fire. The

anointing comes upon a minister and can lift from him. One can gain

the anointing through fasting and prayer (as in Hagin's case) or

it can be bestowed on a person via another " anointed " vessel.

 

Strong's Dictionary defines anointing as: chrisma, khris'-mah;

from Greek 5548 (chrio); an unguent or smearing, i.e. (figurative)

the special endowment ( " chrism " ) of the Holy Spirit :- anointing,

unction. In the New Testament the term(s) for anointing are used

only seven times. Four of the seven are direct references to the

Lord Jesus Christ and His ministry (Lk. 4:18; Acts 4:27, Acts 10:38,

and Heb. 1:9).

 

The other three times refer to the work of the Holy Spirit in

teaching us as God's children (1 Jh. 2:20, 27) and in keeping us

in Christ (2 Cor. 1:21). Nowhere does the Bible speak of the

anointing being felt as fire, heat, electricity, or power. Nowhere

do we read of the anointing flowing out of Paul or Peter, i.e. being

transmitted and people falling down under the power of the

anointing. Every believer is sealed with the Holy Spirit (Eph. 4:30)

and that same Holy Spirit is the anointing (1 Jh. 2:27). Thus every

believer in " anointed " with the Holy Spirit. If a believer has any

of the Spirit, he must then have all of the Spirit, because God is

not divisible.

 

Nowhere are we told how to increase this anointing, how to get more

of it, how to release it, or how to transmit it to others. From a

simple reading of the New Testament all of these concepts are false.

Charismatic teachers have developed an entire doctrine on the

anointing which separate the anointing from the Holy Spirit. The

anointing to them is a power given by The Spirit versus being

synonymous with the Holy Spirit. This is very important to

understand. If the anointing is separate then it can be lost,

increased, transmitted, etc. If however, the anointing and The

Spirit are one in the same, as the Bible teaches (Acts 10:38; Luke

4:18), then obviously, these things cannot occur.

 

UNCTION. In its three NT{NT New Testament} occurrences, i.e. 1 Jn.

2:20, 27 (twice), Authorized Version King James, 1611 renders Greek

chrisma, unction, and Revised Standard Version : NT, 1946; OT, 1952;

Common Bible, 1973 has anointed, *anointing. Christians who, by

virtue of their unction (vv.{vv. verses}20, 27), are all able to

discern schism (v.{v. verse} 19) and heresy (denial of the

incarnation, v.{v. verse} 22) are exhorted to adhere to the

apostolic message (v.{v. verse} 24), which led them to confess the

Father and the Son. Grammatically, unction must be either (a) that

which is smeared on (so B. F. Westcott, The Epistles of John, 1892);

or (b) the act of anointing (so A. E. Brooke, ICC{ICC International

Critical Commentary}, 1912); but in either case the word refers to

the gift of the Holy Spirit, of which baptism is the outward sign,

and whose sensible reception, leading to awareness of dangers to the

church, is the consequence of true incarnational faith. This

exegesis is compatible with, though not necessarily proving, the

belief that the anointing of the Spirit leads to spoken prophecy

within the church. (Bold type added by author). Thus the majority of

what Charismatic ministries teach about the anointing must be placed

under the category of false teaching. The following internationally

known ministries propagate erroneous concepts about the anointing:

 

* Kenneth E. Hagin Understanding the Anointing

 

* Benny Hinn The Anointing

God's Anointing for You

Understanding the Anointing

The New Anointing

Double Portion Anointing

 

* Creflow A. Dollar The Anointing of El Shaddai

Anointed Because of His Blood

 

* Lori Wilke The Costly Anointing

 

* Kenneth Copeland The Anointing

 

When a person has been taught that the anointing and the Holy Spirit

are not the same it is easy to understand why people can believe

that Jesus personally gave Kenneth Hagin a " special anointing " in

the area of divine healing. On the other hand, when one correctly

sees that the Holy Spirit and the anointing are one in the same,

then you can readily see that what brother Hagin received (if he

indeed received anything) did not come from the Lord Jesus. Which

leads me to conclude that his experience, although a real

experience, is both extra-Biblical and anti-Biblical in nature and

must be rejected.

 

A month later at another revival meeting Jesus appears to Hagin

again. In this instance Hagin is attempting to cast a demon out of a

man. After laying hands on him, the man is still bound by the demon

and Hagin looks over his shoulder and sees Jesus

 

" I saw Jesus standing there as plainly as any man I had ever seen in

my life! I thought everybody saw Him, but I learned later that no

one in the congregation saw or heard Him except me. The congregation

heard what I said, but they did not see or hear anyone else. "

 

Jesus rebukes Hagin for his lack of faith reminding him that He

said " I said in my Name the demons will go. " Hagin realizes he has

been in unbelief through his confession (he had asked the man to see

if he could stand up) and has the man come back. This time he lays

hands on him and commands him to stand up and he does!

 

Jesus appears to teach Hagin that his words have power, that he was

saying " if " versus commanding the result. Hagin learns no matter how

many gifts a person has, or how much power, it all works by faith,

i.e. belief in the right words.

 

December 1952 in Broken Bow Oklahoma Hagin is staying at a

Pastor's house. As he was getting on his knees to pray with the

pastor, he was instantly " in the spirit. "

 

" On this night in 1952 in the parsonage kitchen, my physical senses

were suspended. At that moment I didn't know I was kneeling

beside the kitchen chair. It seemed as if I was kneeling in a white

cloud that enveloped me. Immediately I saw Jesus. . . " I am going to

teach you concerning the devil and demons, and demon

possession. . .from this night forwards, what is known in My Word as

the gift of discerning of spirits will operate in your life when you

are in the Spirit. "

 

One thing that is prominent in the visions Hagin receives is the

element of being personally taught by the Lord Jesus Himself. Hagin

takes his understanding of Scripture to the highest point possible,

being personally taught by God, mouth to mouth! Hagin's

understanding of doctrine and the Bible does not come from mere man,

or a seminary somewhere. No, his comes from the very lips of the

risen Christ Himself! This places Hagin and his teachings on a very

high plain, which possibly explains why he is so revered among

Charismatics today.

 

The problem with this is manifold. To begin with much of what Jesus

is teaching (or showing) him is simply not Biblical. Secondly, we

have no record of anyone being personally taught doctrine by the

risen Christ after the closing of the canon of Scripture. We know of

a certainty that it is the ministry of the Holy Spirit to teach us

(Jh. 16:13) and that God has placed Pastor Teachers in the Body

(Eph. 4:11-12). We do know that John saw Jesus and wrote down what

he saw and heard. Apart from John no one else was personally taught

by Christ. Paul was taken to the third heaven (2 Cor. 12:2) although

he does not say Jesus taught him anything. So Hagin's experiences

place him above Paul, Peter, James, Luke, and others.

 

" The Lord said, " There are four divisions: (1) principalities, (2)

powers, (3) rulers of the darkness of this world, (4) and wicked

spirits in high places or in the heavenlies. . .The highest types of

demons with which you have to deal with on earth, the rulers of the

darkness of this world, rule all unsaved people, all who are in

darkness. They rule over them and dominate them. "

 

Hagin's Jesus goes on the reveal to him that people do the wicked

things they do because of these spirits. This is the classic " the

devil made me do it " of Flip Wilson given now divine verification!

Certainly Satan is the Tempter (Matt. 4:3), but people sin because

they are desperately wicked and are totally depraved. When Satan and

his demons are locked up for one thousand years why does Jesus have

to rule with a rod of iron (Rev. 19:15)? Because those who survive

the great tribulation and are alive when Jesus returns are still

fallen people and without any external force (demons) they will sin -

it is their nature. All sin cannot be laid at the feet of Satan or

his demons, much of what is sinful is based within the heart of man.

 

Then Jesus shows Hagin (in the spirit) a women who is a minister of

the gospel, and is even used in the supernatural gifts of the Holy

Spirit (pg. 75). In the end, this woman listens to the demons

speaking to her, she leaves her husband, and takes up with another

man and renounces Jesus Christ.

 

" Lord what will happen to her? " . . She will spend eternity in the

regions of the damned, where there is weeping and gnashing of

teeth. " . .And in the vision I saw her go down into the pit. I heard

her awful screams. "

 

This is an important vision because in this one Jesus contradicts

His own teaching concerning His sheep. Jesus said He would not loose

any of the people given to him by the Father (Jh. 6:39). The Bible

Jesus also stated that Jesus gives His sheep eternal life and they

shall never perish (Jh. 10:27,28).

 

Hagin's Jesus now reveals to us that a person can be saved, in

ministry, and then decide to reject Christ and be lost. So somehow

Christians can break the seal of the Holy Spirit, and by an act of

their will undo all that God has wrought in them at the moment of

salvation. This being speaking with Hagin is not the True Christ of

the Bible, but some cleaver demonic counterfeit.

 

Jesus goes on to reveal to Hagin the true meaning of 1 John 5:16 and

that we are not to pray for those who commit such sins, i.e. the sin

unto death. Now we know that the sin unto death is the sin which

leads to eternal damnation. In fact, Jesus goes onto the elucidate

to Hagin the five ingredients which comprise the sin unto eternal

damnation:

 

" 1. Be enlightened (or convicted) to see his lost states, and to

know that there is no way for him to be saved except through Jesus

Christ. 2. Taste of the heavenly gift, which is Jesus. 3. Become

partaker of the Holy Spirit, or be filled with the Holy Spirit. 4.

Grow enough out of the babyhood stage to have tasted of the good

Word of God. 5. Have the powers of the world to come - the gifts of

the Spirit - operating in his life. "

 

Jesus gives Hagin (and us through Hagin) facts which again

contradict the teaching of Scriptures. What Hagin has been taught is

that a person is convicted of their lost condition and receives

Jesus, the heavenly gift. They then go onto to get filled with the

Holy Spirit - please understand that this for Hagin and most

charismatics is a subsequent experience after salvation. This

charismatic believer grows up having tasted the good Word of God (is

any of It bad?) and has the gifts of the Holy Spirit operate in

their lives. Then after this they willfully turn their backs on God

and end up in hell!

 

The Bible teaches that the believer is sealed with the Holy Spirit

unto the day of redemption (Eph. 4:30). Philippians 1:6 encourages

us that He, God, who began the good work of salvation, shall

complete this work in us. I Thessolonians 5:23, 24 we are assured

that God will keep us blameless at the coming of the Lord Jesus.

Paul assures us that the Lord who called us will do it! The text

Hagin claims Jesus taught him does not apply to blood-washed

Christians. Furthermore the text in First John does not teach that

we are not to pray for those who have committed a sin worthy of

death.

 

Concerning this (peri ekeines). This sin unto death. That he should

make request (hina erotesei). Sub-final use of hina with the first

aorist active subjunctive of erotao, used here as in John 17:15, 20

(and often) for request rather than for question. John does not

forbid praying for such cases; he simply does not command prayer for

them. He leaves them to God. (Bold type the authors).

 

During this lenghty vision brother Hagin receives further startling

revelations which have become cornerstones of his ministry. Jesus

continues to speak to Hagin and lo-and-behold a monkey shaped demon

jumps up between them and starts causing a ruckus. Hagin can see

Jesus is speaking but he cannot hear what He is saying. Hagin waits

for Jesus to command the demon to go, but He does not. Finally Hagin

commands the demon to shut up and begone . . . and the demon flees

in terror from him.

 

" I was still wondering why Jesus had not stopped this evil spirit

from interfering, and of course Jesus knew what I was thinking. He

said, " If you hadn't done something about that, I couldn't

have. "

 

Hagin immediately corrects Jesus by telling Him surely He meant

wouldn't have. Jesus says no He could not have done anything.

Hagin protests some more and Jesus tells him " sometimes your

theology needs upending " (pg. 87). Then Hagin decides to get

theological with Jesus and says:

 

" Lord, even though I am seeing You with my eyes, even though I hear

your voice speaking to me as plainly as any voice I have ever heard,

I cannot accept that unless You prove it to me by the Word of

God. . . I will not accept any vision, I will not accept any

revelation, if it cannot be proved by the Word of God. "

 

It is obvious that for brother Hagin proving something by the Word

of God consists of finding a text, regardless of its context, and

thus proving the validity of a concept by mere proof-texting, which

is no proof at all.

 

Jesus then shows Hagin texts where Jesus gave the believer authority

over Satan and demons. Jesus tells Hagin no place in the New

Testament are we to ask Jesus to fight Satan or demons on our

behalf. The reason Almighty God cannot do anything about Satan is

because He has given His authority to the Church. Unless we deal

with Satan the job will not get done. Jesus has done all He is going

to concerning the devil and now it is up to the Body of Christ to

enforce his defeat by using our authority in Jesus name. The subject

of our authority over Satan and demons became a thrust of Hagin's

ministry. So much so he wrote a book entitled " The Authority of the

Believer. " A main problem with this book, apart from the bad

theology, is the fact that he plegerized the vast majority of it.

 

The believer does not act autonomously in the spiritual life. Any

power or ability we possess comes from God, it is in Him we live and

move and have our being (Acts 17:28). When the gospel is preached

and people are saved - who saved them, the evangelist or the Lord?

The Lord. If you do pray for the sick and they are genuinely healed

by God, who healed them? The one who prayed or the Lord? The Lord.

If an evil spirit is indeed cast out, who cast it out, the

individual or the Lord? The Lord. In all cases, it is the Lord

operating by His Spirit through His servant. He alone gets the

glory. As in the other cases, what Hagin claims Jesus has taught him

is at variance with the Scripture and in most cases with logic.

 

In 1958 in Port Natches Texas Hagin is singing in other tongues

during a meeting and Jesus suddenly appears on the platform to him.

This time Jesus is not alone, He has come with Hagin's angel -

 

" Then, pointing to the angel standing beside Him, He said, " This is

your angel. " " My angel? " I asked. " Yes, your angel, and if you will

respond to him, he will appear to you as I will at times; and he

will give your guidance and direction concerning the things of life,

for angels are ministering spirits who are sent to minister for

those who are heirs of salvation " (Heb. 1:14).

 

Obviously is Jesus is busying running some other aspect of the

universe He will now have His angel come and guide brother Hagin in

the affairs of life. Nowhere does the New Testament validate an

experience of this type. Angels do not give individuals guidance and

direction concerning the things of life. Last time I checked that

ministry was reserved for the Holy Spirit alone.

 

We do read some warnings concerning angels however, which brother

Hagin would do well to heed:

 

Col. 2:18 Let no one keep defrauding you of your prize by delighting

in self-abasement and the worship of the angels, taking his stand on

visions he has seen, inflated without cause by his fleshly mind,

 

2 Cor. 11:14 And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an

angel of light.

 

Galatians 1:8 But even though we, or an angel from heaven, should

preach to you a gospel contrary to that which we have preached to

you, let him be accursed.

 

No one in the Bible is told by God that an angel will guide them in

the affairs of life. Angels do minister, they do the bidding of God,

but they are not personal advisors. Earlier we read where brother

Hagin is given a special anointing, an anointing so special it is

not found in Scripture. Next we read that he is personally doctrine

by the Head of the Church. Now we read that he is given a personal

guide, a spirit-guide if you will, who will guide him in the affairs

of life, if he will open himself up to this spirit-being. It would

seem that brother Hagin has had more supernatural experiences than

all the apostles of the Bible combined!

 

February 1959, we find brother Hagin in the hospital with an injured

elbow. Around dinner time he hears some footsteps coming towards his

room and he looks up and it is Jesus!

 

" As I looked closer, I saw it was Jesus! It seemed as if my hair

stood on end. Cold chill bumps pooped out all over my body, and I

couldn't say a word. . .I am going to talk to you now about the

prophets ministry. You have missed it and have only been in my

permissive will because you have reversed the order, putting the

teaching ministry first and the prophet's ministry second. "

 

Brother Hagin was operating in the permissive will of God, which is

why the devil was allowed to hurt his elbow. Jesus came to speed up

the healing process but also to get brother Hagin on track, i.e. to

get him to flow in the office of a prophet more so than that of a

teacher. Jesus went on to reveal to brother Hagin that the ministry

of the prophet and apostle are still for the Church today (since the

late 1940's Pentecostals had accepted this erroneous belief). Jesus

then defines the ministry of the prophet:

 

" Jesus went on the talk to me about the ministry of the prophet,

explaining that a prophet is one who has visions and revelations;

things revealed to him. . .Therefore the word of knowledge and the

discerning of spirits plus prophecy are operating in my ministry

when I am in the Spirit. This constitutes the office of the prophet. "

 

Now after almost two thousand years we have further divine

revelation into what exactly makes one a prophet. All we need do is

accept what brother Hagin says Jesus taught him. A prophet has

visions and revelations. A prophet operates in the word of

knowledge, which Pentecostals define as the supernatural ability to

know what is currently happening in a person's life or at times a

city or nation. A prophet operates in the discerning of spirits, the

supernatural ability to see into the realm of the spirit, literally

see angels and demons at work. Lastly, they will naturally prophesy.

All of which, as we have read, are active in brother Hagin's

life. So obviously, he is a prophet as well as an evangelist and

teacher, and pastor.

 

Brother Hagin is not just an ordinary run-of-the-mill preacher. He

is the prophet of the Lord God and people had better listen to

him . . . or else:

 

" He went on to say that if a Church wouldn't accept the ministry

of a prophet, they wouldn't accept His Word. He added that if a

pastor wouldn't accept this message, judgment would come to him.

The Lord said that if He gave me a message or a revelation for a

pastor, I should deliver it; and if He gave me a message for a

church or an individual, I should deliver it. . .If you give a

message for an individual, church, or a pastor, and they don't

accept it, you will not be responsible. They will be responsible.

There will be ministers who won't accept it and who will fall dead

in the pulpit. "

 

Two weeks later brother Hagin finished preaching somewhere and the

pastor did not accept his message and fell dead! Naturally, writing

this has caused me sleepless nights. NOT!

 

As before, there is nothing in the New Testament to support this

concept. The Biblical Jesus did say in Mark 6:11 to shake the dust

off your feet if your witness is not received. He did not say " they

will die if they reject your message. " In fact, Jesus rebuked John

and James when they wanted to call lightening down on a town which

rejected Jesus . . . like Jesus I say to brother Hagin " you do not

know of what spirit you are " when you make statements like these.

 

The Counterfeit Dreams and Visions

of " Prophet " Kenneth Hagin