Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 shriadishakti , " sampalee2003 " <sampalee2003> wrote: > Dear Jagbir > What you said reflects the true situation with the sy and > the unexplained lack of confidence in declaring the truth,though > they may themselves embrace it. I have made copies of shri matagi's > declaration to my group,quite a number are unaware and wanted to > know more. As such i handed the material to the yogi in charge > thinking that he will use the occassion to confirm the declaration > and have the web address posted on the notice board. None of which > happens. When a great event that is ordained to mankind is > tactfully avoided in favour of activities like promoting cross > cultures such as lion dance and colouring contest,the gathering > degenerates into just another social club with much talk about > foot soaking, but little on the path towards samadhi. Since many of > the sy have no religeous background,they are in the dark about > ressurection of the christian and the muslim as well as the > upanisad. Or should Shri Matagi address the world authoritatively > like Jesus when he declare i am the truth and the way, so that the > poor sy will then wake up > > sampa > Dear Sampa, How on earth can SYs not know about Shri Mataji's numerous declarations about the Last Judgment and Resurrection? If you check tapes of public programs you will realize that the audience were told just that on many occasions. Unlike SYs, Shri Mataji never balked at declaring the Last Judgment and Al-Qiyamah to complete strangers. It did not matter to Her whether they believed or not, just as it did not matter to Jesus. But both did address their followers and masses authoritatively - no question about this! The Adi Shakti has done Her job and still continues today, despite an advanced age, when She should be retired and resting. But those members of the public who came for subsequent follow-ups to learn more of the Last Judgment must have been taken aback by the complete lack of information on this great event. It is just like entering a store advertising " Last Judgment " and finding out there is no such thing, only chakras and some subtle system stuff that thousands of competing stores promote in their weekly fliers. Many leave quietly without complaining about the deception because it is FREE. (Try charging $5 and see what happens.) Even those attending public programs and subsequently checking the official SY websites to read about the Last Judgment that Shri Mataji talked about are in for a surprise, even shock - not even a single reference! The most daring hint is Blossom Time! But what does Shri Mataji mean by it? What is the public supposed to make out of " Blossom Time " ? (Can they imagine it to be springtime in Japan when millions of cherry trees bloom?) Moreover the hundreds of thousands of seekers who visit the official websites mistake it for some Hindu organization teaching about Self- realization. (Hundreds of Indian gurus/disciples claim the same ability and 152,000 hits on Google should be sufficient.) There is not even a single paragraph or sentence. Nay, there is not even a single mention of Last Judgment! Most leave and never return because in their minds Shri Mataji is just another guru giving Self-realization, and little else. They have no idea that She is the promised Comforter to explain about Jesus' teachings, or what She has done in the capacity of Imam Ma Adi to enlighten humanity about the Last Judgment and Al-Qiyamah. The damage, though invisible, is incalculable if taken over the span of three decades as our leaders time and again squandered countless opportunities to declare the advent of the Adi Shakti. It is no different today. You can crack your head and almost break the wall to find answers! But you can never find out why this deception and hypocrisy is perpetuated and encouraged at all levels, starting from our leaders and working all the way down to teh YuvaShakti. No leader or SY can tell us why we must hide the truth from the public, but hide you must. That is why Sampa the yogi in charge did not put up the website addresses. It does not matter if quite a number of SYs are unaware and wanted to know more about Shri Mataji's declaration of the Last Judgment and Resurrection. For all intent and purposes Sahaja Yoga is about the subtle system, chakras and self-realization, one that the general public is comfortable with. We must not tell them about the Last Judgment even if Shri Mataji has done so repeatedly over the last three decades. It is as if SYs must not repeat the mistake Shri Mataji is making in declaring the Last Judgment in public. What else can you make out of this contradiction? Thus if SYs fear this announcement even with the Adi Shakti around, how on earth will they ever have courage when She leaves? But the Last Judgment and Al-Qiyamah is not the apocalyptic end of earth that most religious Christians and ordinary Muslims have been indoctrinated over the millennia. It is the Blossom Time when the promised Messiah/ Comforter/ Ruh/ Shakti/ Ma Adi/ Ma Treya arrives during Kali Yuga to enlighten humanity. She extracts the profound parables of the scriptures and synthesizes all religions into a wholesome, harmonious unity. This Great Event is a time of great awakening and spiritual transformation. Humankind are just stirring to the Dawn of the Millennium prophesied by John of Jerusalem in AD 1100: " When the millennium that comes after this millennium ends, men will have finally opened their eyes. They will no longer be imprisoned in their head and in their cities, but will be able to see from one end of the earth to another and understand each other. They will know that what makes one suffer hurts another. Men will form one huge body of which each one will be a tiny part. Together they will form the heart of this body. There will be a common language spoken by everybody and thus, finally, a glorious humanity will come into existence.................. because Woman will arrive to reign supreme. She will be a great master of the future time. She will be the Mother of the Millennium that comes after the Millennium. After the days of the devil She will make the softness of the Mother flow. She will , after the days of barbarity, embody beauty. The millennium that follows the millennium will metamorphose in an age of lightness: men will love each other, share everything, they will dream and their dreams will turn into reality.. Thus man will have his second birth. Spirit will possess the mass of men who will be united in brotherhood. So an end will be proclaimed to barbarity. It will be the era of a new strength of belief. The dark days at the beginning of the millennium that follows the millennium will be followed by days of jubilation: man will once more find the righteous path of humanity and Earth will find harmony once more There will be roads that connect one end of the earth and the sky to the other; the woods will once more be dense, the desert will once more be irrigated and the water will once again be pure. The earth will be like a garden: man will take care of every living thing and he will clean everything he has dirtied. He will understand that the whole of Earth is his home and he will think with wisdom of the morrow. Man will know everything on earth and his own body. Diseases will be cured before they are manifested and everybody will cure themselves and each other. Man will have understood that he has to help himself to stay upright; and after the days of reticence and avarice, man will open his heart and his purse to the poor; he will define himself curator of the human species and so, finally a new era will begin. When man has learnt to give and share, the bitter days of solitude will be at an end. He will once more believe in the spirit, and the barbarians will be unheard of. But all this will happen after the wars and the fires, all this will arise from the ashes of the burnt towers of Babel. " When a Great Event that is ordained to mankind is tactfully avoided by our leaders the collective karmic debt piles up. More than three decades have passed and this debt has now become unforgivably enormous. Those in charge of spreading Sahaja Yoga can evade the truth and responsibilities for as long as they want, and continue to waste the now dwindling energies and confidence in the subtle system. There are 152,000 ways to learn about Self-realization. How many are there regarding the Blossom Time? Those who deliberately avoid announcing the Great Event that is ordained to mankind will ultimately pay the price. i am not talking about SYs standing in street corners with placards and shouting, " This is the Last Judgment " . All i am saying is that official SY websites MUST gives details so that it will make the job of spreading Sahaja Yoga so much easier to those who want to take part in the Great Event that is ordained to mankind. Is this too much to ask members of the World Council? jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 20, 2004 Report Share Posted August 20, 2004 Dear gautam It is a joy just to see your concern.Actually we are already very fortunate to have a very comprehensive web site at adishakti and all we need is to have sy log on and explore the tons of materials at their leisure.What i embark on now is to introduce the site to all my friends collegue and business associate,most of them not sy yet,although a few have come back as to where to go for lesson ..To them i introduce them to my centre.In short i now introduce people to sri matagi first and then to sy.For those who are shy to attend classes they can get initiated following the procedure laid out on the web site.If this effort work than i will just stick to it and pray for all the blessing from Sri Matagi.I personaly believe the internet is the best approach to spread Sri Matagi's gift to mankind. sampa > Dear respected brothers and sisters, > it was really nice going through the article " when a great event that is ordained to mankind is tactfully........................ " the statement stated above is true to some extend and there is some confidence missing at some part. At the same time we would like to take ur suggestion for the woriking out sahaja yoga " maha yoga " in our country too. > In a country like bhutan, it is really dificult to work out sahaja yoga.if any brothers and sister have better means to convince the people ,please do suggest us. > > with nirmal love, > gautam > jagbir singh <adishakti_org> wrote: > shriadishakti , " sampalee2003 " > <sampalee2003> wrote: > > Dear Jagbir > > What you said reflects the true situation with the sy and > > the unexplained lack of confidence in declaring the truth,though > > they may themselves embrace it. I have made copies of shri matagi's > > declaration to my group,quite a number are unaware and wanted to > > know more. As such i handed the material to the yogi in charge > > thinking that he will use the occassion to confirm the declaration > > and have the web address posted on the notice board. None of which > > happens. When a great event that is ordained to mankind is > > tactfully avoided in favour of activities like promoting cross > > cultures such as lion dance and colouring contest,the gathering > > degenerates into just another social club with much talk about > > foot soaking, but little on the path towards samadhi. Since many of > > the sy have no religeous background,they are in the dark about > > ressurection of the christian and the muslim as well as the > > upanisad. Or should Shri Matagi address the world authoritatively > > like Jesus when he declare i am the truth and the way, so that the > > poor sy will then wake up > > > > sampa > > > > Dear Sampa, > > How on earth can SYs not know about Shri Mataji's numerous > declarations about the Last Judgment and Resurrection? If you check > tapes of public programs you will realize that the audience were > told just that on many occasions. Unlike SYs, Shri Mataji never > balked at declaring the Last Judgment and Al-Qiyamah to complete > strangers. It did not matter to Her whether they believed or not, > just as it did not matter to Jesus. But both did address their > followers and masses authoritatively - no question about this! The > Adi Shakti has done Her job and still continues today, despite an > advanced age, when She should be retired and resting. > > But those members of the public who came for subsequent follow-ups > to learn more of the Last Judgment must have been taken aback by the > complete lack of information on this great event. It is just like > entering a store advertising " Last Judgment " and finding out there > is no such thing, only chakras and some subtle system stuff that > thousands of competing stores promote in their weekly fliers. Many > leave quietly without complaining about the deception because it is > FREE. (Try charging $5 and see what happens.) Even those attending > public programs and subsequently checking the official SY websites > to read about the Last Judgment that Shri Mataji talked about are in > for a surprise, even shock - not even a single reference! The most > daring hint is Blossom Time! But what does Shri Mataji mean by it? > What is the public supposed to make out of " Blossom Time " ? (Can they > imagine it to be springtime in Japan when millions of cherry trees > bloom?) > > Moreover the hundreds of thousands of seekers who visit the official > websites mistake it for some Hindu organization teaching about Self- > realization. (Hundreds of Indian gurus/disciples claim the same > ability and 152,000 hits on Google should be sufficient.) There is > not even a single paragraph or sentence. Nay, there is not even a > single mention of Last Judgment! > > Most leave and never return because in their minds Shri Mataji is > just another guru giving Self-realization, and little else. They > have no idea that She is the promised Comforter to explain about > Jesus' teachings, or what She has done in the capacity of Imam Ma > Adi to enlighten humanity about the Last Judgment and Al-Qiyamah. > The damage, though invisible, is incalculable if taken over the span > of three decades as our leaders time and again squandered countless > opportunities to declare the advent of the Adi Shakti. > > It is no different today. You can crack your head and almost break > the wall to find answers! But you can never find out why this > deception and hypocrisy is perpetuated and encouraged at all levels, > starting from our leaders and working all the way down to teh > YuvaShakti. No leader or SY can tell us why we must hide the truth > from the public, but hide you must. That is why Sampa the yogi in > charge did not put up the website addresses. It does not matter if > quite a number of SYs are unaware and wanted to know more about Shri > Mataji's declaration of the Last Judgment and Resurrection. For all > intent and purposes Sahaja Yoga is about the subtle system, chakras > and self-realization, one that the general public is comfortable > with. We must not tell them about the Last Judgment even if Shri > Mataji has done so repeatedly over the last three decades. It is as > if SYs must not repeat the mistake Shri Mataji is making in > declaring the Last Judgment in public. What else can you make out of > this contradiction? > > Thus if SYs fear this announcement even with the Adi Shakti around, > how on earth will they ever have courage when She leaves? > > But the Last Judgment and Al-Qiyamah is not the apocalyptic end of > earth that most religious Christians and ordinary Muslims have been > indoctrinated over the millennia. It is the Blossom Time when the > promised Messiah/ Comforter/ Ruh/ Shakti/ Ma Adi/ Ma Treya arrives > during Kali Yuga to enlighten humanity. She extracts the profound > parables of the scriptures and synthesizes all religions into a > wholesome, harmonious unity. This Great Event is a time of great > awakening and spiritual transformation. Humankind are just stirring > to the Dawn of the Millennium prophesied by John of Jerusalem in AD > 1100: > > " When the millennium that comes after this millennium ends, men > will have finally opened their eyes. They will no longer be > imprisoned in their head and in their cities, but will be able to > see from one end of the earth to another and understand each other. > They will know that what makes one suffer hurts another. Men will > form one huge body of which each one will be a tiny part. Together > they will form the heart of this body. There will be a common > language spoken by everybody and thus, finally, a glorious humanity > will come into existence.................. because Woman will arrive > to reign supreme. She will be a great master of the future time. She > will be the Mother of the Millennium that comes after the > Millennium. After the days of the devil She will make the softness > of the Mother flow. She will , after the days of barbarity, embody > beauty. The millennium that follows the millennium will metamorphose > in an age of lightness: men will love each other, share everything, > they will dream and their dreams will turn into reality.. > > Thus man will have his second birth. Spirit will possess the mass of > men who will be united in brotherhood. So an end will be proclaimed > to barbarity. It will be the era of a new strength of belief. The > dark days at the beginning of the millennium that follows the > millennium will be followed by days of jubilation: man will once > more find the righteous path of humanity and Earth will find harmony > once more > > There will be roads that connect one end of the earth and the sky to > the other; the woods will once more be dense, the desert will once > more be irrigated and the water will once again be pure. The earth > will be like a garden: man will take care of every living thing and > he will clean everything he has dirtied. He will understand that the > whole of Earth is his home and he will think with wisdom of the > morrow. Man will know everything on earth and his own body. > > Diseases will be cured before they are manifested and everybody will > cure themselves and each other. Man will have understood that he has > to help himself to stay upright; and after the days of reticence and > avarice, man will open his heart and his purse to the poor; he will > define himself curator of the human species and so, finally a new > era will begin. When man has learnt to give and share, the bitter > days of solitude will be at an end. He will once more believe in the > spirit, and the barbarians will be unheard of. > > But all this will happen after the wars and the fires, all this will > arise from the ashes of the burnt towers of Babel. " > > > When a Great Event that is ordained to mankind is tactfully avoided > by our leaders the collective karmic debt piles up. More than three > decades have passed and this debt has now become unforgivably > enormous. Those in charge of spreading Sahaja Yoga can evade the > truth and responsibilities for as long as they want, and continue to > waste the now dwindling energies and confidence in the subtle > system. There are 152,000 ways to learn about Self-realization. How > many are there regarding the Blossom Time? > > Those who deliberately avoid announcing the Great Event that is > ordained to mankind will ultimately pay the price. i am not talking > about SYs standing in street corners with placards and shouting, > " This is the Last Judgment " . All i am saying is that official SY > websites MUST gives details so that it will make the job of > spreading Sahaja Yoga so much easier to those who want to take part > in the Great Event that is ordained to mankind. Is this too much to > ask members of the World Council? > > > jagbir > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 shriadishakti , " sampalee2003 " <sampalee2003> wrote: > Dear gautam > It is a joy just to see your concern. Actually we are already very > fortunate to have a very comprehensive web site at adishakti and > all we need is to have sy log on and explore the tons of materials > at their leisure. What i embark on now is to introduce the site to > all my friends collegue and business associate,most of them not sy > yet, although a few have come back as to where to go for lesson. > To them i introduce them to my centre. In short i now introduce > people to sri matagi first and then to sy. For those who are shy > to attend classes they can get initiated following the procedure > laid out on the web site. If this effort work than i will just > stick to it and pray for all the blessing from Sri Matagi. I > personaly believe the internet is the best approach to spread Sri > Matagi's gift to mankind. > > sampa > Dear Sampa, We have no idea who we were in our previous lives, and this present existence must never stain the glorious past. You must always keep in mind that your birth coincided with the advent of the Adi Shakti on Earth. Even more significant is that you recognized Her. But you, like all Her devotees, are here for another great purpose and that is to awaken humanity to the Great Event that is ordained for humanity. How you strive to accomplish that highest duty in this life will set in motion the karmic rewards of the next. Under no circumstance will you fail in this life or fall in the next if that is your deepest desire and life-long goal. i quote Dr. Haridas Chaudhuri's " The Essence of Spiritual Philosophy " to remind all that Earth is just a temporary home for eternal souls struggling to free ourselves from physical bodies. " Buddha said our life is like a river. On this side of the river is the ordinary life we live. It is a life of samsara, the cycle of death and rebirth, empirical existence, social development, economic growth, the march of history and civilization. On the other side of the river is timeless reality, the kingdom of heaven in the transcendental sense of the word. Some people through their spiritual development cross the river, experience transcendental reality and come back to tell their fellow human beings about the other shore and to help them get there. Still others cross the river, experience the treasures of transcendental reality, and discover that both shores are interconnected and interdependent. There is no dualism, no complete separation. These people come back armed with the power of the divine and with a clear understanding of the purpose of the ultimate reality. They understand the ultimate purpose is to develop something on this shore. They come back to inspire others to build a divine kingdom on this shore, transforming human society into the perfect image of the transcendental reality. This becomes their purpose and is the true goal of the evolutionary mysticism. It is the balanced spiritual ideal: attaining mystical experience and also having an evolutionary perspective regarding life. Through this we grow true to the kindred points of eternity and time, of heaven and earth. " The Maitreya descends to Earth to preach anew the dharma ( " law " ) when the teachings of Gautama Buddha have completely decayed. Lama Thubten Yeshe prophesied that the " Maitreya will turn the wheel of great teachings three times and each time countless multitudes of disciples will come to listen. These teachings will be enormous events attracting not merely human, earth-born disciples, but many celestial beings, dakas, dakinis and beings from other realms as well. Many of those gathered to receive these teachings will immediately become arhats, bodhisattvas and even fully enlightened Buddhas. " The Ma Treya has come to enlighten humanity how to accomplish just that during this Great Event of the Last Judgment and Al-Qiyamah. She calls it the Blossom Time. The Bible prophesied that " this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world, for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. " (Mark 24:14) The Qur'an invites all humanity to take part in the present Al-Qadr (The Night of Power) before Al-Qariah (Day of Noise and Clamour). This is the Blossom Time, the only chance to become arhats, bodhisattvas and even fully enlightened Buddhas. We will not be reborn to take part in it again if we fail. jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 Dear Jagbir Thank you for sharing your deep insight and spirituality.I pray that i can progress in self realisation and be a worthy servant of the holy mother. I understand that Without reaching the other shore myself,my contribution will be limited,no matter how hard i try.Once again thank you for your guidance and encouragement sampa > shriadishakti , " sampalee2003 " > <sampalee2003> wrote: > > Dear gautam > > It is a joy just to see your concern. Actually we are already very > > fortunate to have a very comprehensive web site at adishakti and > > all we need is to have sy log on and explore the tons of materials > > at their leisure. What i embark on now is to introduce the site to > > all my friends collegue and business associate,most of them not sy > > yet, although a few have come back as to where to go for lesson. > > To them i introduce them to my centre. In short i now introduce > > people to sri matagi first and then to sy. For those who are shy > > to attend classes they can get initiated following the procedure > > laid out on the web site. If this effort work than i will just > > stick to it and pray for all the blessing from Sri Matagi. I > > personaly believe the internet is the best approach to spread Sri > > Matagi's gift to mankind. > > > > sampa > > > > > Dear Sampa, > > We have no idea who we were in our previous lives, and this present > existence must never stain the glorious past. You must always keep > in mind that your birth coincided with the advent of the Adi Shakti > on Earth. Even more significant is that you recognized Her. > > But you, like all Her devotees, are here for another great purpose > and that is to awaken humanity to the Great Event that is ordained > for humanity. How you strive to accomplish that highest duty in this > life will set in motion the karmic rewards of the next. Under no > circumstance will you fail in this life or fall in the next if that > is your deepest desire and life-long goal. > > i quote Dr. Haridas Chaudhuri's " The Essence of Spiritual > Philosophy " to remind all that Earth is just a temporary home for > eternal souls struggling to free ourselves from physical bodies. > > " Buddha said our life is like a river. On this side of the river is > the ordinary life we live. It is a life of samsara, the cycle of > death and rebirth, empirical existence, social development, economic > growth, the march of history and civilization. On the other side of > the river is timeless reality, the kingdom of heaven in the > transcendental sense of the word. Some people through their > spiritual development cross the river, experience transcendental > reality and come back to tell their fellow human beings about the > other shore and to help them get there. Still others cross the > river, experience the treasures of transcendental reality, and > discover that both shores are interconnected and interdependent. > > There is no dualism, no complete separation. These people come back > armed with the power of the divine and with a clear understanding of > the purpose of the ultimate reality. They understand the ultimate > purpose is to develop something on this shore. They come back to > inspire others to build a divine kingdom on this shore, transforming > human society into the perfect image of the transcendental reality. > This becomes their purpose and is the true goal of the evolutionary > mysticism. It is the balanced spiritual ideal: attaining mystical > experience and also having an evolutionary perspective regarding > life. Through this we grow true to the kindred points of eternity > and time, of heaven and earth. " > > The Maitreya descends to Earth to preach anew the dharma ( " law " ) > when the teachings of Gautama Buddha have completely decayed. Lama > Thubten Yeshe prophesied that the " Maitreya will turn the wheel > of great teachings three times and each time countless multitudes of > disciples will come to listen. These teachings will be enormous > events attracting not merely human, earth-born disciples, but many > celestial beings, dakas, dakinis and beings from other realms as > well. Many of those gathered to receive these teachings will > immediately become arhats, bodhisattvas and even fully enlightened > Buddhas. " The Ma Treya has come to enlighten humanity how to > accomplish just that during this Great Event of the Last Judgment > and Al-Qiyamah. She calls it the Blossom Time. The Bible prophesied > that " this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world, > for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. " (Mark > 24:14) The Qur'an invites all humanity to take part in the present > Al-Qadr (The Night of Power) before Al-Qariah (Day of Noise and > Clamour). > > This is the Blossom Time, the only chance to become arhats, > bodhisattvas and even fully enlightened Buddhas. We will not be > reborn to take part in it again if we fail. > > > jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2004 Report Share Posted August 21, 2004 shriadishakti , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org> wrote: > > The Maitreya descends to Earth to preach anew the dharma ( " law " ) > when the teachings of Gautama Buddha have completely decayed. Lama > Thubten Yeshe prophesied that the " Maitreya will turn the wheel > of great teachings three times and each time countless multitudes > of disciples will come to listen. These teachings will be enormous > events attracting not merely human, earth-born disciples, but many > celestial beings, dakas, dakinis and beings from other realms as > well. ... > > " Angels are unseen creatures of light created by Allah to act as intermediaries between Him and the visible world. The Islamic concepts of creation, revelation, prophecy, events that occur in the world, worship, the spiritual life, death, resurrection, and the central position of man in the cosmos cannot be understood without reference to the angels. Belief in angels is one of the six pillars of belief or faith without which there is no faith. Angels are a part of the world of the Unseen which we cannot comprehend. Allah has told us about them in many places in the Qur'an and via His Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him). Although we cannot see angels, Allah may show them to some humans. ... Angels are assigned certain functions. These functions include delivering the revelation from Allah to whomever He wishes among His prophets. " http://www.al-qiyamah.org/angels_sent_forth_(al_mursalat).htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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