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I was also thinking, is dressing like a stereotypical saint just as

important as acting like one? I was thinking on what I posted in the

pervious post, and it occurred to me that dressing in fashions of

today all the time may actually add to the identification with the

body and the ego, or make it more difficult to be freed from those

things, especially if all you wear is what you wore and thought of

as " you " for the previous couple years. Also, that wearing

traditional Indian dress and others of a more humble yet dignified

manner may be beneficial in aiding in detachment, yet completely

unpractical in modern WESTERN society.

 

On the same token, what would that mean for people who got huge

works of art on their bodies(tattoo's) that are very noticeable(

like full sleeves or covering of the arm and other things of that

nature that can't be removed or at least for the budget of the

average person)? That's a very permanent thing and I'm assuming the

ideals, identifications and beliefs that originally spawned such

well thought out pieces of art that related to " you " before

attempting the sahaj way of life, would loose their meaning or

significance as the ego is demolished by the power of the spirit. IF

this is not the case, then I would suspect that it would be

something that would enslave you in some degree, no matter how

detached one is, to identifying with your body and old

identifications, thus never allowing you to be free from such things

due to constant visual reminders of that person who initially

planed, brooded and thought out in great detail these works of

permanent art.

 

I would really appreciate some conformation or dispelling of these

assumptions in both of these examples and am hoping very much that

someone could shed some light on these subjects to give me a better

idea of what can be done to maximize the effect and what should b

avoided, but MOST IMPORTANTLY how these relate to acting dressing

like a saint or a work in progress saint should dress; " outside must

reflect the inside " .

 

Thanks so much for your time and i hope to hear a response from

these from many people who have great knowledge or insight into this.

 

WArmest regards,

 

Kyyan

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shriadishakti , " kyvolk " <kyvolk> wrote:

> I was also thinking, is dressing like a stereotypical saint just

as

> important as acting like one? I was thinking on what I posted in

the

> pervious post, and it occurred to me that dressing in fashions of

> today all the time may actually add to the identification with the

> body and the ego, or make it more difficult to be freed from those

> things, especially if all you wear is what you wore and thought of

> as " you " for the previous couple years. Also, that wearing

> traditional Indian dress and others of a more humble yet dignified

> manner may be beneficial in aiding in detachment, yet completely

> unpractical in modern WESTERN society.

>

 

There is no dress code to follow. Women are only asked to be modest

in attire. Wearing the traditional Indian dress to become detached

may be less desirable than wearing jeans to attain enlightenment.

The mind should not be conditioned in any way.

 

 

> On the same token, what would that mean for people who got huge

> works of art on their bodies(tattoo's) that are very noticeable(

> like full sleeves or covering of the arm and other things of that

> nature that can't be removed or at least for the budget of the

> average person)? That's a very permanent thing and I'm assuming

> the ideals, identifications and beliefs that originally spawned

> such well thought out pieces of art that related to " you " before

> attempting the sahaj way of life, would loose their meaning or

> significance as the ego is demolished by the power of the spirit.

> IF this is not the case, then I would suspect that it would be

> something that would enslave you in some degree, no matter how

> detached one is, to identifying with your body and old

> identifications, thus never allowing you to be free from such

> things due to constant visual reminders of that person who

> initially planed, brooded and thought out in great detail these

> works of permanent art.

>

 

The power of the thoughtless state will definitely destroy the ego

and reconfigure your mind. It is far easier to forget external,

permanent tattooos than heal the mind.

 

Let the Universal Silence teach you more than anything you have ever

known. Maybe one day you will be able to look at the tattoos and

will be glad they remind you of an ignorant past.

 

A few years ago i suddenly met an old drinking buddy. He was shocked

by my spiritual life, a far cry from those days of drinking binges

and decades-old self-abusive lifestyle.

 

He was so taken aback by such a radical change that he asked, " What

happened to you? "

 

i replied, " From an animal i have become a human being. "

 

 

> I would really appreciate some conformation or dispelling of these

> assumptions in both of these examples and am hoping very much that

> someone could shed some light on these subjects to give me a

> better idea of what can be done to maximize the effect and what

> should be avoided, but MOST IMPORTANTLY how these relate to acting

> dressing like a saint or a work in progress saint should

> dress; " outside must reflect the inside " .

>

 

Saintliness cannot be attained by wearing saffron dhotis or becoming

vegetarians. It must be reflected in your love and compassion for

fellow humans. You should know that it is easier to be a saint than

become enlightened. The first spark of enlightenment only begins

when the Kundalini rises from the Mooladhara and reaches the

Sahasrara. That first spark was recorded by your spirit some months

ago. It is indeed a long journey that will probably take you years

to attain and retain.

 

jagbir

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shriadishakti , " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org> wrote:

>

> Saintliness cannot be attained by wearing saffron dhotis or

> becoming vegetarians. It must be reflected in your love and

> compassion for fellow humans. You should know that it is easier to

> be a saint than become enlightened. The first spark of

> enlightenment only begins when the Kundalini rises from the

> Mooladhara and reaches the Sahasrara. That first spark was

> recorded by your spirit some months ago. It is indeed a long

> journey that will probably take you years to attain and retain.

>

>

 

Friday 24 of September, 2004 by John L. Noyce in John Noyce's Blog

 

A prophecy

 

When the millennium that comes after this millennium ends, men will

have finally opened their eyes. They will no longer be imprisoned in

their head and in their cities, but will be able to see from one end

of the Earth to another and understand each other. They will know

that what makes one suffer hurts another. Men will form one huge

body of which each one will be a tiny part. Together they will form

the heart of this body. There will be a common language spoken by

everybody and thus, finally, a glorious humanity will come into

existence .... because Woman will arrive to reign supreme; She will

govern the future and decree her philosophy to man. She will be the

Mother of this millennium that follows the millennium. She will,

after the days of the devil, radiate the gentle sweetness of a

Mother. She will, after the days of barbarity, embody beauty.The

millennium that follows the millennium will metamorphose into an age

of lightness: Men will love each other, share everything, dream and

the dreams will turn into reality...

 

Thus man will have his second birth. Spirit will possess the mass of

men who will be united in brotherhood. So an end will be proclaimed

to barbarity. It will be the era of a new strength of belief. The

dark days at the beginning of the millennium that follows the

millennium will be followed by days of jubilation: man will once

more find the righteous path of humanity and Earth will find harmony

once more..

 

There will be roads that connect one end of the Earth and the sky to

the other; the woods will once more be dense, the desert will once

more be irrigated and the water will once again be pure.

 

The Earth will be like a garden: man will take care of every living

thing and he will clean everything he has dirtied. He will

understand that the whole of Earth is his home and he will think

with wisdom of the morrow. Man will know everything on Earth and his

own body.

 

Diseases will be cured before they are manifested and everybody will

cure themselves and each other. Man will have understood that he has

to help himself to stay upright; and after the days of reticence and

avarice Man will open his heart and his purse to the poor; he will

define himself curator of the human species and so, finally, a new

era will begin.

 

When man has learnt to give and share the bitter days of solitude

will be at an end. He will once more believe in the Spirit and the

barbarians will be unheard of... But all this will happen after the

wars and the fires, all this will arise from the ashes of the burnt

towers of Babel. And a strong hand will be needed to bring order to

the chaos and to put Man on the right path.

 

Man will learn that all creatures must be respected. Man, in his

lifetime, will live more than one life and will learn that the light

never goes out...

 

(John of Jerusalem, Secret Register of Prophecies (1119))

 

 

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Paradise

 

Paradise is at the feet of the Mother.

 

(Hadith of the Prophet Mohammed)

 

 

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When a man reflects

 

When a man reflects upon himself, responds to the Holy Spirit that

lives and calls within him, and follows its secret nod instead of

his own whims or the advice of others, by applying himself and

adhering to the station for which he was born into the world and to

which he was assigned by the Highest Being Himself – this is to

undertake happily one's calling with God.

 

(Hryhorij Skovoroda (1722-1794), Ukraine)

 

 

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Wisdom shines bright

 

Wisdom shines bright and never fades; she is easily discerned by

those who love her, and by those who seek her she is found. She is

quick to make herself known to those who desire knowledge of her;

the man who rises early in search of her will not grow weary in the

quest, for he will find her seated at his door. To set all one's

thoughts on her is prudence in its perfect shape, and to lie wakeful

in her cause is the short way to peace of mind. For she herself

ranges in search of those who are worthy of her; on their daily path

she appears to them with kindly intent, and in their purposes meets

them halfway. The true beginning of wisdom is the desire to learn,

and a concern for learning means love towards her; the love of her

means the keeping of her laws; to keep her laws is a warrant of

immortality; and immortality brings a man nearer to God. Thus the

desire of wisdom leads to kingly stature.

 

(The Wisdom of Solomon chapter 6)

(Greek text from Alexandria, Egypt, 2nd century BCE)

 

 

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When realisation came to me

 

When realisation came to me, I was filled with joy and all fear

departed from me.

I found pure deliverance in the realm of the unapproachable, the

unthinkable.

The Unapproachable has come near, the message of the Unthinkable

abides with me always, the Unutterable find utterance.

From separation I have come to Union.

The bonds of self are loosened, all error has fled, and the light of

the Brahman shines upon my soul.

 

(Dadu Dayal (1544-1603) Rajasthan, India)

 

 

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The Mother

 

The most beautiful word on the lips of mankind is the word

`Mother', and the most beautiful call is the call of `My

mother'. It is a word full of hope and love, a sweet and kind

word coming from the depths of the heart. The mother is everything

– she is our consolation in sorrow, our hope in misery, and our

strength in weakness. She is the source of love, mercy, sympathy,

and forgiveness. He who loses his mother loses a pure soul who

blesses and guards him constantly.

 

Everything in nature bespeaks the mother. The sun is the mother of

earth and gives its nourishment of heat; it never leaves the

universe at night until it has put the earth to sleep to the song of

the sea and the hymn of birds and brooks. And this earth is the

mother of trees and flowers. It produces them, nurses them, and

weans them. The trees and flowers become kind mothers of their great

fruits and seeds. And the mother, the prototype of all existence, is

the eternal spirit, full of beauty and love.

 

(Kahlil Gibran, `The Broken Wings', first published in Arabic

in 1912)

 

 

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O Mother

 

On the face of the earth there is no one more beautiful than You.

Wherever I go I wear Your image in my heart.

Whenever I fall in a despondent mood I remember your image

and my spirit rises thousand fold.

Your advent is the blossom time of the universe.

O Mother you have showered Your choicest blessings upon me.

Also remember me on the Day of Judgement.

I don't know if I will go to heaven or hell,

But wherever I go, please always abide in me.

 

(Unknown Sufi)

 

 

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I entered not knowing where

 

I entered not knowing where.

And I remained not knowing.

Beyond all science knowing.

 

I did not know where I entered,

But when I saw myself there,

Not knowing where I entered,

Many things I suddenly learned;

I will not say what these things were,

For I remained not knowing,

Beyond all science knowing.

 

It was peace, it was love,

It was the perfect knowledge,

In deep loneliness

I saw with wisdom;

It was a thing so secret

I was left babbling and trembling,

Beyond all science knowing.

 

I was so far beyond,

So lost and absorbed,

I lost all my senses

I was of all sensing dispossessed;

And my spirit was filled

With knowledge not knowing,

Beyond all science knowing.

 

Whoever truly reaches there,

To himself he is lost;

All he knew before

Now appears very base;

But his knowledge grows,

And he remains not knowing

Beyond all science knowing. …

 

This knowing by not knowing,

Is of such high power,

That the arguments of the wise

Are unable to grasp it;

For their knowledge does not explain

Not to know knowing,

Beyond all science knowing.

 

And this exalted wisdom

Is of such excellence,

That no faculty of science

Can hope to reach it;

But he who learns to conquer himself

With this knowledge of not knowing,

Will always go beyond all science knowing.

 

(In this song, found in a manuscript of his works, Juan de la Cruz

(a.k.a. John of the Cross)(1542-1591) described his entry into

nirvikalpa-samadhi)

 

 

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The great mystery

 

The primary matter of all things is the " great mystery " …

Like children are born to the mother, from the " great mystery "

issues all things, with or without feelings, as well as the other

things, all in the same manner. The " Great mystery " is the

only mother of all mortal things.

 

(Paracelsus (1490-1541), Swiss spiritual alchemist)

 

 

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The Divine flow of blessings

 

There is a Water that flows down from Heaven

To cleanse the world of sin by grace Divine.

At last, its whole stock spent, its virtue gone,

Dark with pollution not its own, it speeds

Back to the Fountain of all purities;

Whence, freshly bathed, earthward it sweeps again,

Trailing a role of glory bright and pure.

 

This Water is the Spirit of the Saints.

Which ever sheds, until itself is beggared,

God's balm on the sick soul; and then returns

To Him who made the purest light of Heaven.

 

(the Islamic Sufi, Rumi)

 

 

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There are seven lights, which split up into seven seas,

and one sea Shechina contains them. This one sea is the

supernal sea in which all the seven seas are contained.

These seven lights enter the sea, and smite the sea on seven

sides, and each side splits up into seven rivers, as it is

written " and He will smite it into seven rivers " (Isaiah

11:15) and each river splits up into seven streams, and each stream

splits up into seven roads, and each road splits up into seven

paths, and all the waters of the sea enter them. The seven

supernal lights enter the sea – they are really six emerging from

the uppermost one. As the sea receives them so it distributes its

waters to all the seas, to all the rivers.

 

(the Jewish Kabbalistic text, the Sefer ha-Zohar 1:52a)

 

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