Balooney of early days and Kalki wannabees craving recognition

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shriadishakti , "jagbir singh" <adishakti_org> wrote:> > Alex,> > If you tell me you are meeting Shri Mataji, Ganesha, Krishna, Jesus,> Buddha etc., who am i to say it is not possible or that you are > telling lies. i do not have to do anything because sooner or later > you will expose yourself. > > Even if you tell me that you are Shri Kalki or some incarnation i > will try to play it down and hope you heal yourself of that > delusion. But if you insist that i announce that you are Shri Kalki, > then be assured that you will be exposed in public. That is what > happened to Ishmael and i am glad he was exposed for insisting he > was Shri Kalki.> > So was i involved in a proper conversation with him? - Yes!> Why? - i don't know as i really am not concerned of the consequences.>

Is there a reason for things happening? - Almost always!> Do i know immediately? - No.> Do i know eventually? - Yes, but sometimes it takes a long time.> Am i still ignorant? - Yes.> > Now about your requests for answers. Alex, i have never claimed to > have ever met the Adi Shakti in the Sahasrara, nor do have any > desire. i really do not know who told you that.> > However, you have that desire. i have to strongly advise you to > forget it. A few unfortunate SYs have urged their minds and all have > ended with the delusion of grandeur - Ishmael, Simon, etc. Do not > let you mind trick you into thinking you are Shri Kalki or some > fancy incarnation. Just learn to meditate and retain that > thoughtless state. > > Jai Shri Mataji,> > The affect of the Mind

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

 

 

“People don't know what this mind is. It is very easy to understand for Sahaja Yogis that we are the ones who react, react to everything that is outside. The reason is, we have two horrible tendencies, one that is an Ego and another tendency is that we are being trained in a way or we can call it the Superego or the conditionings. So both things, our Ego and Superego are all the time acting outside. This reaction, which is built in within us, is just like bubbles in the ocean. And these bubbles keep us away from reality. These bubbles are of thoughts and they just blast you all the time in

your head and you don't know why they are coming. When you depend on this artificial mind of yours then you have no discretion as to understand what is good and what is bad. This mind is the one where all kinds of evil things start. All kinds of quarrels, fights and possessiveness, lastly the war also comes there. It is in this mind only, which is nothing but a myth, all these concrete destructive ideas somehow or other come up and then they start growing and growing. Then you find people who can impress you, also put ideas into your heads. By reading they learn or by their lectures or by mesmerism, whatever kinds of things they can do. They put your mind into such a frame that you accept these destructive ideas for yourself individually or maybe for the collective.”Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi(21.03.1996, Delhi)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Alex wrote:

> Jagbir - I cant help but wonder what all this

balooney

> is about. I

> was just going through archived messages and got

> thoroughly irritated

> at the numerous messages from this Ishmael fellow.

> Kalki, Shri

> Shiva...bah...i didn't even want to comprehend.

Whats

> worse is that

> you were engaged in a proper conversation with him.

I

> really didnt

> have the patience to read all of it, did you really

> think he's

> meeting dieties around the place and that lord shiva

> is teaching him

> yoga????!!!!!

>

> Im tempted now to ask you something that ceased to

> concern me. You

> said you have been meeting the adishakti in the

> sahasrar. I must

> admit, in my meditations i have been asking the

> adishakti to bestow

> such an experience on me....but now i just wonder if

> im urging my

> mind to play a trick on me.

>

> Could you, for my knowlege and understanding, please

> tell me about

> the experience

>

> When you meet the Adishakti

>

> 1. How old is she there. I mean lets assume she has

an

> earthly body

> and is dressed in fabrics made of earthly clothes

and

> all..So is she

> (In earth years) 20 -25-40-60-81?

>

> 2. The clothes are made of the same materials here

on

> earth?

>

> 3. There was a lion nearby wasnt there. Wasnt he

> allowed to evolve

> and become a human being and finally liberated?

>

> 4. The other dieties, say lord ganesha, how old is

he?

> Lord Shiva is

> there too with mother parvati i assume. How old is

he,

> does he look

> like a 17 yr old or in his early 40's?

>

> 5.When you meet her, she on her throne right, whats

> the backdrop? and

> what are the surroundings? IS it misty, like in the

> movies or is a

> secluded jungle?

>

> Any other details will be much appreciated.

>

> Alex

 

 

Dear jagbir,

 

I distinctly remember you answering my query when i

asked if your meeting the devi was visualisation. You

replied that it was very real. As real as me meeting a

friend for tea in some restaurant in bombay...or

something on those lines. But if you're saying I

mistook your message then thats fine.

 

Oh, and in your reply you said im the one with the

desire to meet the devi in the sahasrar, er...that was

just inspired by your claim. I'm not pursuing that

anymore. A little bit of logic told me that its a

ridiculous proposition.

 

As for the questions i posed above, maybe you could

ask you kids the answers to those questions. I

definitely think its their imagination. The devi

herself, in recorded speech has said that she CANNOT

be met in ANY other form. Lord Krishna said that about

himself in the gita too. So.......I think you are

waging a war against any ancient indian scripture and

a living goddess.

 

I mean well.

 

Alex

 

 

 

 

 

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