Reference: Invitation to participate in the 27th November 2004 events and to

[Guest guest]

No comments.You are lucky you are NOT a sahaja -yogi-..and this time I

am serious.But,may I ask you,why do you post here?..

 

Sincerely,Danny

[Guest guest]

shriadishakti , " calugar22 " <calugar22>

wrote:

>

> No comments.You are lucky you are NOT a sahaja -yogi-..and this

> time I am serious.But,may I ask you,why do you post here?..

>

> Sincerely,Danny

 

 

i think this is a cause most SYs would support, especially if you

know what it is about.

 

jagbir

 

 

 

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Mera Bharat Mahaan!!!! What a beautiful meaning it has!!! But, now,

it is a total shame for our system in India that is controlling our

daily life.

 

Corruption, dishonesty, bribery, theft, murder, kidnapping,

extortion.... and what not has become a part of our daily life.

Whenever we donot see all these things in headline news, I think

that something was wrong and that is why these news didn't come.

When our politicians promise all those innocent citizens of India

that they will give everybody a peaceful sleep, a happy future,

corruption-free country and this and that, when that time will

come?????

 

An honest engineer is working hard for a better tomorrow when a few

illeterate powerful persons donot allow him to survive in this

world. What is this?

 

We, common citizens, work hard to earn our living, we pay taxes to

Government. And, a few unwanted people with help of a few corrupt

Government officials perloin all our tax money as if the money

belonged to them? We pay taxes for the development of our country,

not for them?

 

And when, a brave hero - S.K. Dubey- comes up to stop corruption,

all his efforts goes into drain. He is no more with us.

My Salute to S.K. Dubey.

 

I urge all citizens of India to wake up and fight against a corrupt

system. Donot let these corrupt people enjoy our hard earned money.

 

We need a better Goverment system with no false promises. We need

people like S.K. Dubey in our goverment system.

May his soul rest in peace.

 

Posted by: Abinash Chandra,USA at August 10, 2004 12:38 PM

 

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I have been following this story since it happened.We will have more

of such incidents in India till honesty is erased from the mimds of

a few remaining honest people.I feel proud to be an Indian but

ashamed of its politicians.What do we expect from a former PM who

could not even walk properly is a poet,and nothing from the new one

as well.All these people are bunch of crooks who know how to stuff

their pockets.Indian don't have blood to revolt,they will rot and

die of hunger but still vote Laloo prasad,paswan's.The public is to

blame.Ander Nagri Kaana Rajah.All the politicians are bastards .I

can only sympathise with the family of Dubeyji and advice future

mother's not to bring another honest child on Indian Soil coz India

doesn't deserve it.

 

May Dubeyji's soul rest in peace.

 

Basant - Australia

 

Posted by: Basant at May 26, 2004 10:05 PM

 

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Amar Shaheed Bhagat Singh gave his life for a free India.

Likewise Amar Shaheed Satyendra Dubey gave his life for a corruption-

free India.

 

A true tribute to Satyendra Dube will be the formation of a

SATYENDRA DUBE SOCIETY in which only those people can become members

who are willing to make significant sacrifices to make India

corruption-free.

 

And it should be the solemn duty of all NRI's to help the

corruprtion-freedom fighters.

 

 

Posted by: Subhash Chandra at April 12, 2004 07:30 PM

 

 

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I just learnt about this incident. The reality of it is shocking

despite seeing this happen in Hindi movies. Heart cries for this

stranger and his family (and suddenly the man and the family seem so

familiar!). We know the S. Dubeys of the world and we also know that

it is because of the S. Dubeys of India that India survives and

shines today. S. Dubey lost his life working to protect the

integrity of Government of India, let's see what the Government of

India can do to safeguard S. Dubeys of future. Hopefully, in this

case, a life lost for a purpose is not lost.

 

God bless his family!

 

Posted by: Abha Gupta, USA at March 21, 2004 04:11 PM

 

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The sad demise of Mr. Dubey is a great national tragedy.He showed us

the way, by display of examplary courage, in taking on the

unscrupulous elements of the society. I hope his killers are caught

and punished. That will give hope to future generations. The dreams

of this great soul should be kept alive.The Prime Minister should

take note of this and do everything in his powers( not just the lip

service)to bring closure to this sordid incident.

 

Kamal Yadav, Washington DC, USA

 

 

 

 

Personally I am still astonished as I learn more and more about him,

his family and values that he stood and fought for. Not just that as

we know now, he did the final sacrifice of giving his life. It's

very hard if not completely impossible to find people who have his

levels of high morals and abilities in today's world. What we

have today is a vitiated atmosphere where de facto goal (say motto)

is to gain success (mostly monetary and political) at any COST

whether it means doing morally wrong things or adopting un-fair

means, supporting unethical acts or being the leading idol of

corruption.

 

Most of society has more or less accepted this as current norms of

life. Many of us are not astonished to see this apparent apathy of

the system but feel astonished to see that there are still some

brave individuals (whom we term them as FOOLS and DAY DREAMERS) who

have not yet come to terms with reality. In lighter vain, many of us

feel that some day light of enlightenment will dawn of these

individuals and they would realize their mistake of thinking of

changing the system, let alone daring to CHANGE. Hey all said and

done, this system does work on a temporary basis for most of us. So

why bother!

 

But yes I am bothered to see that there are still individuals who

have typical characteristics of Dubeyji and are hell bent on MAKING

this system work differently. Bothered and pained because their acts

hurts me where it matters most. I did not ever think that my

conscience was alive enough to feel the pain but to my surprise it

is and is bothering me a lot. May be if this was one of the

objectives of Satyendraji, then I must say he succeeded in it. I am

sure that must not be the only objective/aim though.

 

I am still amazed to see the photograph of his father sitting on a

small TAKHTA (wooden board) and other family members gathered in a

corner in such a simple (and may I say in economic terms extremely

poor) surroundings. I can not ignore the overall condition of house

and they way things are arranged in this photograph. It may not be

the best of the photographs taken, but it does REVEAL some

STARTLINGS FACTS of speak volumes of the ETHICS and MORALS that this

family has learned to live by. It seems to me that even basic signs

of prosperity that are so visible in the lives of so many others

like us and definitely government Officials (even the lowest ranking

ones) have yet to make their mark in this family. So what should I

do? Shade some crocodile tears and feel sympathetic about it. Or as

is the norm, give some money and feel great that a donation has been

made and I can forget all about it and get back to my usual life. It

sure would be an easy way out. But can really give anything to

Satyendraji or his family. Before I give something I got to have it

at first place. I do have some money (may be scores when compared to

him) but haven't I earned a good portion of that by close my eyes

and conscience to ETHICAL and MORAL behavior. I still remember a

couple of instances where I have given bribes to get my comfort

level. I think I am bankrupt when it comes to MORALITY and ETHICAL

behavior. So I can't really give anything. In fact I am trying to

buy some morality and ethics in my life by being sympathetic to him.

And I think by helping his family financially, I might be able to

heal wounds made to my conscience. I guess it is an easy and way out

and may not be wrong but we should DO MORE if we really are TRUE and

JUST to the pain and resolve we have because of S.K Dubeyji. For a

change I will try to walk few more steps on this road and see where

it does lead me to.

 

Going back to Satyendra Dubeyji's life and gruesome murder, it

may be anybody's guess as to why a person of his caliber, who was

one of the brightest of the bright candidates of IIT, had enough

options and abilities to pursue a better and comfortable career

choose instead to devout his life for upliftment (may I coin a word

like that) of India and Indians in his own small way. He tried to do

some good things for our country INDIA, at the COST of his OWN and

his FAMILY. I have rarely seen a SETUP where family and close

relatives BENEFIT LEAST from the advancements of their son or closed

ones. It may not be the only case of demonstration of high morals,

but it sure is one of those few. There are still some great SOULS

who still have HOPE for India and have given us ample hint that with

consistent and persistent efforts which may include extreme

sacrifice, we might be able to make the POSITIVE DIFFERENCE towards

the DESTINY of our current and future generations. In the backdrop

of all that we know, I still consider India to be fortunate enough

to have been blessed by some such individuals who have shown

exceptional command of ethics and moral authority and have

courageously guided us in different spheres or of life in different

times.

 

What else can I say to him posthumously, except to pray and promise

that we should (and hope is that we will) strive to our level best

to keep NOT JUST HIS MESSAGE ALIVE BUT ALSO TO DO ACTS AND DEEDS

THAT CAN TERMED GOOD ENOUGH TO HAVE DONE JUSTICE TO HIS MESSAGE.

SOMETHING THAT OUR CONSCIENCE CAN ALSO VOUCH FOR REAL. And before we

forget, MESSAGE IF NOT MORE IS AT LEAST TO HAVE A CORRUPTION FREE

INDIA.

 

My sincere SALUTE to a REAL LIFE HERO. May God bless his soul and

give enough strengh to his family to tide over this crisis.

 

-Anil Dubey

[Guest guest]

shriadishakti , " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org>

>

>

> i think this is a cause most SYs would support, especially if you

> know what it is about.

>

> jagbir

....................................

 

 

Jagbir,,

My name is Daniel...and are you from India?...I will protect

you...but what is the matter with the Indian thing?...(I am from

Europe)Yes,I have read your post,and I agree with it.But still I don't

understand any connections with the Sahaja Yoga(in this instance

..............maybe I missed

something?

 

Sincerely,Danny

[Guest guest]

shriadishakti , " calugar22 " <calugar22>

wrote:

>

> shriadishakti , " jagbir singh "

> <adishakti_org>

> >

> >

> > i think this is a cause most SYs would support, especially if

> > you know what it is about.

> >

> > jagbir

> ...................................

>

>

> Jagbir,,

> My name is Daniel...and are you from India?...I will protect

> you...but what is the matter with the Indian thing?...(I am from

> Europe)Yes,I have read your post,and I agree with it.But still I

> don't understand any connections with the Sahaja Yoga(in this

> instance .............maybe I missed something?

>

> Sincerely,Danny

 

 

Dear Danny,

 

Maybe you are new to this forum but sometimes non-SYs do post for a

worthwhile cause. In this instance it is about corruption in India.

 

The mere presence of Mr. Kalyan Panda on the Shri Adi Shakti forum

should have been respected. He has caused no harm in any way

whatsoever to Shri Mataji. For all you know he may be a longstanding

member trying to understand things about the Adi Shakti. Your " you

are lucky you are NOT a Sahaja Yogi " threat reflects poorly on the

standard of Self-realization.

 

i have already said much about our failings as SYs and the

prevailing mindset that hinders the spread of Sahaja Yoga. My hope

is that in the long run this forum gradually heals by removing our

shortcomings, ignorance and baseless fears.

 

jagbir

[Guest guest]

shriadishakti , " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org> wrote:

 

> Dear Danny,

>

> Maybe you are new to this forum but sometimes non-SYs do post for a

> worthwhile cause. In this instance it is about corruption in India.

>

> The mere presence of Mr. Kalyan Panda on the Shri Adi Shakti forum

> should have been respected. He has caused no harm in any way

> whatsoever to Shri Mataji. For all you know he may be a

longstanding

> member trying to understand things about the Adi Shakti. Your " you

> are lucky you are NOT a Sahaja Yogi " threat reflects poorly on the

> standard of Self-realization.

>

> i have already said much about our failings as SYs and the

> prevailing mindset that hinders the spread of Sahaja Yoga. My hope

> is that in the long run this forum gradually heals by removing our

> shortcomings, ignorance and baseless fears.

>

> jagbir

 

Dear Jagbir

Good...at last the topic came back to what was supposed to be...about

Shri Mataji.Looks like indeed you were born in

India.But,remember,...sahaja yoga is international.My statement

about,,you are lucky you are NOT a Sahaja Yogi,,. was with a

purpose.Maybe you should ask your(indian) friend why his email is not

working.Also ask yourself (as moderator) if you could allow people

from all over the world tell us about their problems.This was my

idea.

 

Sincerely,danny

[Guest guest]

Dear Danny,

 

Corruption is the yoke around Mother India's neck that is weighing it

down.

If you take a medical situation which is similar - it is like cancer

which you & I know usually incapicitates the body and ultimately

claims it.

 

In fact anyone fighting corruption anywhere in the world should ALWAYS

be supported.Mr. Kalyan Panda is a using his resources for a much

better cause than some of the requests for bandhans that I sometimes

come across.

 

My apologies to Mr. Kalyan Panda if anyone of us have offended him.

 

Balwinder

 

In shriadishakti , " calugar22 " <calugar22> wrote:

>

> shriadishakti , " jagbir singh "

> <adishakti_org> wrote:

>

> > Dear Danny,

> >

> > Maybe you are new to this forum but sometimes non-SYs do post for a

> > worthwhile cause. In this instance it is about corruption in India.

> >

> > The mere presence of Mr. Kalyan Panda on the Shri Adi Shakti forum

> > should have been respected. He has caused no harm in any way

> > whatsoever to Shri Mataji. For all you know he may be a

> longstanding

> > member trying to understand things about the Adi Shakti. Your " you

> > are lucky you are NOT a Sahaja Yogi " threat reflects poorly on the

> > standard of Self-realization.

> >

> > i have already said much about our failings as SYs and the

> > prevailing mindset that hinders the spread of Sahaja Yoga. My hope

> > is that in the long run this forum gradually heals by removing our

> > shortcomings, ignorance and baseless fears.

> >

> > jagbir

>

> Dear Jagbir

> Good...at last the topic came back to what was supposed to be...about

> Shri Mataji.Looks like indeed you were born in

> India.But,remember,...sahaja yoga is international.My statement

> about,,you are lucky you are NOT a Sahaja Yogi,,. was with a

> purpose.Maybe you should ask your(indian) friend why his email is not

> working.Also ask yourself (as moderator) if you could allow people

> from all over the world tell us about their problems.This was my

> idea.

>

> Sincerely,danny

[Guest guest]

shriadishakti , " dr_balwinder "

<dr_balwinder> wrote:

>

> Dear Danny,

>

> Corruption is the yoke around Mother India's neck that is weighing

it

> down.

> If you take a medical situation which is similar - it is like

cancer

> which you & I know usually incapicitates the body and ultimately

> claims it.

>

> In fact anyone fighting corruption anywhere in the world should

ALWAYS

> be supported.Mr. Kalyan Panda is a using his resources for a much

> better cause than some of the requests for bandhans that I sometimes

> come across.

>

> My apologies to Mr. Kalyan Panda if anyone of us have offended him.

>

> Balwinder

..............................................

 

Dear Balwinder

 

I understand the problem with corruption .But(once again)...what is

the connection with sahaja yoga?... also,if Mr. Kalyan Panda posted

here,his email should've been opened.There is no such email,and THAT

upsets me.( greatly ) Also,I could post myself about the various

problems(in the world),but I don't do it.There are plenty.All I was

saying is that Mr. Kalyan Panda spammed this forum.And this was

allowed because the moderator allowed it.Because of his

background.When can we understand that we can/t use our powers,for the

simple thing we have them?.. Sahaja Yoga is for the whole world.India

is just a country .

 

Sincerely,danny