Guest guest Posted November 26, 2004 Report Share Posted November 26, 2004 shriadishakti , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org> wrote: > > From what I have been reading, there are some things to tell you > and ask about. > > At the moment my overall understanding is that Divine energy is > within each person, and is independant of any specific religion, > at the same time embracing them all. Yes, Jimmy, this is absolutely true. No religion has any monopoly over this Divine energy. However, little is known about it because it is subtle and very difficult to activate. Nowadays there are growing numbers of fake gurus/teachers who claim they can trigger it, while admitting it takes many rebirths to make it inch its way all the way from the Mooladhara Chakra to the Sahasrara (Kingdom of God). It is my opinion that only a Divine personality can activate it instantaneously. That is the why disciples of these false gurus, conditioned to believe it takes centuries, disbelieve the claim of SYs that it can be done instantly. But what thousands of SYs are saying is true since the seeker will have to self-certify if they feel the cool breeze of the Kundalini flowing out from their hands and head. Most newcomers at Sahaja Yoga public programs feel this cool breeze, the sure sign of spiritual rebirth otherwise known as kundalini awakening. > > Some things that I have read have stood out; 'People have a > tendency not to accept truth because of their fear' This is very > true. Truth can be overwhelming. 'Once you know in your heart that > no external guru can teach you about the Great Event ordained for > humanity, you will learn to stay and become your own guru.' Please > could you explain this. This statement is directly in contrast > with what the ex members have been saying. What the ex members > have been saying is quite frightening and I'd like to know what > you think about it all. What do you think of their experiences and > claims? Yes, the truth can be overwhelming, especially so if you are brought up in the Christian 'truth', Muslim 'truth' or Hindu 'truth' and exposed for the first time. Even worse is the shock of knowing for the first time that your cherished centuries-old 'truth' has been turned on its head. How do you think Christians and Muslims will react to the knowledge that the Last Judgment and Resurrection is not the doomsday End, but an age of great spiritual renaissance and the demise of all religious regimes who will be made powerless to grant salvation/moksa? This is the Great Event ordained for all humanity, the heart and soul of Judaism, Christianity and Islam. " It is clear, first of all, that today all three religions lack any authoritative note for man. They have, as yet, each one of them, sufficient number of adherents to give the impression of continuing strength, and this glosses over for them and for the outside world at times their terrible weakness. For each of them, when scrutinized closely, is blackened with sufficient failures to prevent any thinking man from believing in them. And, above all, all three persevere in making a claim which cannot possibly be valid and true: that they are, each single one, the true religion. Each one of them, however, hides from the ultimate test of its validity and truth behind a wall of unknowing and expectation. All three chorus that only the " Last Day, " when the " End " comes, when " God " decides, will it be clear that the " other two " and all others besides were false, and it (the claimant) was all along the true community of the one " God. " As Anthony Buzzard emphasizes in The Kingdom of God: Present or Future? " the coming of the Kingdom is linked overwhelmingly in the New Testament not with the ministry of Jesus in Palestine, but with the Coming of the Messiah in the glory of His Kingdom at the end of the age (popularly, but wrongly known as the end of the world). It is essential, therefore, at the outset, to make a fundamental distinction between the proclamation of the Good News of the Kingdom, which is at the heart of the ministry of Christ and the Apostles, and the future coming of the Kingdom which is consistently associated with His Coming in glory at the end of the " present evil age " (Gal. 1:4). " Now that time — the " Last Day, " when the " End " comes, when " God " decides — has come. The universal message of the Last Judgment and Al-Qiyamah (The Resurrection), the ultimate test of its validity and truth, has been delivered by the Messiah. Those who believe and take part in the Great Event ordained for all humanity will be able to start on the road to salvation. But Shri Mataji is not making up all these Sure Signs of Divine intervention. This site is thus an open book and challenge to all guardians of religious regimes — priests, pastors, reverends, bishops, popes, rabbis, clerics, imams, mullahs, shaikhs, ulema, ayatollahs, gurus, swamis, pandits, brahmins, acaryas, bhagwans, granthis, gianis, lamas, monks, dalai lamas — to rebut and prove Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi's message of the Kingdom of God, Resurrection and Last Judgment wrong. The few ex-members from the late 80s and 90s have never challenged even a single-page of www.adishakti.org. How can they when even Muslims are silent about www.al-qiyamah.org? Given the mindset of Islamic fanatics ever ready to kill anyone who blasphemes their revered Qur'an no Muslim have even raised a finger in protest. Let those who believe in God, not a handful of aging, atheist/agnostic anti-SY characters determine if Shri Mataji is telling the truth. Let the priests, pastors, reverends, bishops, popes, rabbis, clerics, imams, mullahs, shaikhs, ulema, ayatollahs, gurus, swamis, pandits, brahmins, acaryas, bhagwans, granthis, gianis, lamas, monks, dalai lamas deny the truth because not only can they best understand the eschatological expectations of a messiah to awaken humanity entrenched in their scriptures, but also are most capable academically of refuting Her claim as bearer of the Great Event ordained for humanity. Do you think that the views of ex-SY Jenny Oliver, a mental patient of Wolston Park Hospital, Australia should be believed to reject Shri Mataji? Or should we take the words of ex- SY Simon, who claimed to be both the reincarnation Saint Joseph and Shri Rama, be believed? Who are they to enlighten us about Shri Mataji when their own mental faculties are suspect? Shri Mataji has spent more than three decades standing on the truth about the Great Event ordained for humanity and spreading it to all corners of this world. She accomplished that while still carrying on all Her duties demanded from a wife (of a distinguished, wealthy and knighted Chairman of the Maritime Organization of the United Nations), mother and grandmother, is unprecedented in the annals of spiritual enlightenment and human achievement. Just like Lord Jesus, She has single-handedly stood on Truth and announced it — against all ridicule, hate, insults, derision, mockery, jeer, sneer, and sarcasm from family, friends, relatives, strangers, fools, fundamentalists and the followers of Simon's cult. But absolutely nothing whatsoever, even Her incarnation as Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, can ever tarnish the Devi within where She remains ever spotless and without any blemish, untouched by even the minutest trace of earthly negativity. The www.adishakti.org site is based almost entirely on the Shakti within. Except for a few incidences where it was necessary to contact the physical Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, everything is based on what the Shakti has revealed from within. So the question of those who reject the Shakti does not arise as none of them have met Her. They may have seen Shri Mataji in Cabella or India and accused Her of pretending to be the Devi, but have they met Her in their own Sahasraras? So if they have not how can they reject the evidence of those who have meditated with Her in person daily for years? Just to prove my point it was the Shakti within, not Her external physical incarnation as Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, who twice saved my friend from committing suicide: http://www.adishakti.org/witnessing_her_miracles.htm The physical Shri Mataji was completely unaware since it was the Shakti within who did so. (Initially when i told the local SYs about this miracle they could not understand what i was talking about because the physical Shri Mataji was unaware of it. Since She was unaware how could i say Shri Mataji saved my friend's life? Being skeptical of the Shakti within they just swept this miracle under the carpet. It is indeed sad that such disbelief and indifference is a powerful negativity that affects SYs because followers of other gurus would have happily advertised such miracles as proof of divinity.) The physical Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi is just a temporary earthly mirage of the Devi to give us a fleeting glimpse of the Shakti's eternal Ultimate Reality. The irony is that the same external mirage enlightens some seekers but deludes others. How is this possible? Well, if you ridicule Shri Mahamaya's external illusion you will conclude that Shri Mataji is a fraud. But if you accept Her the Adi Shakti will convince through personal experience that She is the Shakti. It is the Devi within, not the physical Shri Mataji, who either deludes or enlightens according to your mental inclination. So do not let your own ignorance deride the Shakti's external incarnation. That is why if you can get past this critical external illusion and begin meditating on Her inner reality, chances are you will succeed. Then, and only then, will you stay and learn to become your own guru. Jimmy, you can become your own guru if your faith is strong and surroundings are conducive for meditation. Being your own guru means you allow the Silence within to teach you - this cannot be explained but can only be experienced. You need not even attend a single collective meditation or meet a SY. But group meditation is always better than being a solitary recluse, at least during the early stages. Chances are you will need collective meditation to establish and progress during the initial stages. Once you have learned enough and have your kundalini working well within you may leave and meditate alone. There is no hard and fast rule. > > 'Religion is realisation; not talk, nor doctrine, nor theories, > however beautiful they may be. It is being and becoming, not > hearing or acknowledging, it is the whole soul becoming changed > into what it believes' message 2708 > > How can religion be realised without talk, theories and > acknowledgment? Please explain how this happens. Also, how can > someone overcome fear and lack of trust? No amount of talk, doctrines or theories over centuries have transformed the religious masses. Religion is a mental thing that conditions and divides humans. Religion is for those who feel their god is superior to others. Self-realization is experiencing your own Self i.e., you are part and parcel of Brahman, an eternal soul in this physical body. Only the Silence during meditation can transform you from within to realize what all the prophets collectively taught. The religious masses cannot transform themselves because they are constantly indoctrinated. Meditation heals because you 'force' yourself to have no thoughts, hence no one can indoctrinate you. That is how you learn to be your own master i.e., the cessation of others instructing and teaching you their own narrow fundamentalists beliefs. Jimmy, you can overcome fear and lack of trust by allowing the Mother Kundalini to heal you in mind and body. This will take time and effort. If in the end you realize the Temple of God is within what is there to fear or trust externally? The entire library of enlightenment is within and not in churches, mosques, synagogues and temples. There is nothing to seek outside. So learn to trust your own Self. > > In this post you also mention that Sahaja Yoga has the tools to > understand the truth. Please could you explain this some more. In the beginning your mind, healed by the kundalini, will enable you to absorb and understand what the Truth - Divine, Kingdom of God, Comforter, prophets, Shakti, scriptures, Last Judgment, Mother Kundalini, Resurrection, Divine Feminine - is all about (be assured the subtle system is just one of many parts). In the end your mind enlightened by the kundalini will understand that only the Silence teaches, that only the Thoughtless State enlightens, that only the Stillness of Mind reveals! jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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