Guest guest Posted December 13, 2004 Report Share Posted December 13, 2004 Jai Shri Mataji ! I was in great financial trouble 18 months ago. I had to pay huge bank debt by that time and i was in very much tension. Actually, I had lost all my money in stock trading, and then tried to recover by taking personal loans from various banks and lost this money too. I was in urgent need of money by that time to overcome my family expenditures, viz, marriage of my younger sisters, for establishing small business of my younger brother and treatment of my mother / father (both are sick). But, I had no moneyand I was quite helpless.I was quite unable to pay the bank loans through my salary too as the EMIs were too much. By that time, i got to go to so many temples, so called spiritual persons, but couldn't get any sort of relief. And, a friend and colleague of mine, from a different city came to me and introduced me to Sahaj Yoga. Before that, I read and learnt something about Kundalini and Shaktipat etc. My friend ( a very nice Sahaj Yogi) gave me realization at my home and I started pratising Sahaj Yoga, by heart. By that time, my intensions were to get relief from my family and financial problems through the kind help and blessings of HH Shri Mataji. I was not at all able to see and think of ultimate goal of Sahaj Yoga by that time. However, I practised very sincerely, attended collectivity in Local Sahaj Yoga centre regularly and without fail. I also attended various Poojas at local level and year 2003 Shiv Pooja and B'day pooja at Pune and Delhi. I felt vibrations and cool breeze in my very initial stages and that led me to put more sincere efforts of mine towards Sahaj Yoga. I also tried hard to spread Sahaj Yoga through my personal efforts.And , finally i became very much sincere and pure in my desires and started trying for ultimate goal. In the mean time, through the blessing of HH Shri Matajji, I got some solutions to my financial problems too.Actully, one of my colleague was in a mood to buy a new costly car. I discussed with him and he became agree and I bought the car, by having it financed through a bank and sold the car to my colleague in cash and I paid some of my bank loans through this cash money which, in turn, helped me in reduction of my EMIs.I was little bit comfortable by this time. By the grace and kindnes of our Holy Mother, I got an opportunity to buy a very good house at a very reasonable price. And, with the divine help, I could got the House Loan sanctioned for the purpose, however I hide so many facts from the funding bank as I was very much interested in buying that house. Then, in a good mood, I again took a personal loan from a bank and utilized it in stock trading. I earned handsome profits in that and I thought that very soon, I will be free from debts. Herewith, I want to let it to be known to all of you, that I suffered so many mental tensions and fatigue for buying the house and so I became little bit IMBALANCED.But, i continued my meditation. Then, due to profits that I earned in stocks, I bought a new car. I was very much confident to pay the EMIs. The EMIs were around Rs 36,000 per month by this time and my monthly salary was only Rs 24,000, but I was confident to pay. But, the very next day, the day after I bought the car, I witnessed a road accident with my new car. The car damaged very heavily but we quite safe as we were having divine photograph of HH Shri Mataji with us by the time of accident. The car was insured and therefore we get rid of financial losses. And the story began, ....I suffered heavy losses in stock trading and soon lost all my profits and my basic money too. I am NIL now, with huge bank debts and I do not know how to pay these. I think I will soon have to sell my house and car. It is also to be known to all of you that I started taking alcohol / chewing tobacco in this period due to enormous tensions, but very soon I stopped this habit of mine. But, now the imbalance is becoming higher and higher due to financial constraint and family problems.Some persons cheated me also during the course of time by borrowing money from me and now they are not returning it. This is leading me towards more and more instability and in past fortnight, I just couldn't be able to meditate at all. I am feeling lack of pure desires and so many impure desires are in developement, but surely , I do not want all these. I only want to meditate and meditate and meditate and attain my self realizations but situation is affecting me adversely.I am very much puzzled of the situation as I have lost my funds, lost my peace and now I am losing my spiritual gains too. Kindly, let me know why this is happening with me, which of my chakras are in impure conditions and need immediate attention. Kindly , let me know what to do to get rid of these BIG FINANCIAL AND FAMILY PROBLEMS as I am very much afraid and in a thought that if I do not have splution of my problems early, then it will be very difficult for me to mediatate in peace of mind. In these circumstances, I am not finding myself to have thoughtlessness as the thoughts of insecurities are irritating me adversely. And, therefore I request all of you for sending your kind suggestion to me early and I also rquest to give me " BANDHAN " too. Jai Shri Mataji Anil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 anil kanhaua <hello_betu wrote: Jai Shri Mataji ! anil, as i know,many of sy come in sahajayoga to resolve their personal,social or finanacial problem,i dont think its wrong. But after being sahajayogi, there all problem resolved in a flash & they start repeate the old mistakes again. stock trading or investing money in shares is just gamble & sahajayoga as i think not allowed to gamble anything to earn money or fame. just surrender to mother & ask a remedies to solve this problem to old sahajayogi like jagbir. we all also pray for you & dont worry till date & in future not any1 sahajayogi will be bankrupt. mother is always forgive us & care us lot. just pray to her from bottom of heart. we all also pray for you. mother bless u. shailesh India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2004 Report Share Posted December 14, 2004 Dear Shailesh ji, Definitely your words gave me new strength. Thanks for your kind advice. Through this , I hereby request Jagbir Ji to provide me further guidance on the matter for having some resolutions to my problems. Jai Shri Mataji Anil raz aaryan <raz_aaryan wrote: anil kanhaua <hello_betu wrote: Jai Shri Mataji ! anil, as i know,many of sy come in sahajayoga to resolve their personal,social or finanacial problem,i dont think its wrong. But after being sahajayogi, there all problem resolved in a flash & they start repeate the old mistakes again. stock trading or investing money in shares is just gamble & sahajayoga as i think not allowed to gamble anything to earn money or fame. just surrender to mother & ask a remedies to solve this problem to old sahajayogi like jagbir. we all also pray for you & dont worry till date & in future not any1 sahajayogi will be bankrupt. mother is always forgive us & care us lot. just pray to her from bottom of heart. we all also pray for you. mother bless u. shailesh India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Jazz up your holiday email with celebrity designs. Learn more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Dear Dr. Nitin, I agree with u, but can u explain me meaning of eleventh hour, I am eagerly waiting for ur mail, Jai shri mataji India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 shriadishakti , " Dr.Nitin Khandelwal " <dr_nitin_khandelwal> wrote: > > || JAI SHRI MATAJI || > > Dear Brother Anil, JAI SHRI MATAJI !! > > Diagnosis of your Subtle System tells that the following of your Chakras are Catching: - > > (1) LEFT MOOLADHAR CHAKRA > > (2) CENTRAL SWADHISHTHAN CHAKRA > > (3) CENTRAL NAABHI CHAKRA > > (4) CENTRAL VISHUDDHI CHAKRA > Nitin, You were banned from this forum and you have written under another ID. We don't need your constant advise on chakras. Please post your comments on divinesahajayoga where they welcome such mundane stuff. i will continue to delete any posts from you, as well as any ID you may conjure. Of all the members you need healing the most. It is foolish to tell others what is wrong when you yourself are messed-up. i also believe you are not a doctor in the real sense of the word. You do not act and behave like a physician. It is difficult to believe that an educated doctor will resort to all this. If you are not please do not add that title to your name as it misleads people and gives you more respect than due. They may believe you are indeed a medical doctor who also does expert subtle system diagnosis. Moreoever it gives a bad name to a time honoured tradition. jagbir Note: i would also advise members not to provide unsolicited catch analysis and advise on this forum. It only makes matters worse because there are times when your own catches/problems are read as those belonging to others. And i have made it clear over and over again that we should just let the Mother Kundalini do Her job. If SYs do not get over this mindset few seekers would want to join Sahaja Yoga. Newcomers will always flee from SYs like Nitin who can only ceaselessly chatter about catches. Is this what the Divine Message to humanity is all about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Hi Jagbir, Please dont mind my adding to this post of yours. I really could not see what was wrong with Nithin's advice. That said, I have a question to ask: Is it not true that the condition of our chakras inside our body, determines the condition of our life externally? Vice Versa, if a perons chakras are alright then he is living a moral life, is probably financially secure and satisfied. Is responsible, loving and self confident? Basically, all the qualities of his chakras express themselves in all spheres, isn't it? Further, he asked raz aryaan (?) to surrender everything to Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi (Not mother kundalini but the Mother of all Kundalinis) This is a practice in all Sahaja Yoga collectives. We always surrender to Shri Mataji and she with her all prevading attention handles all problems of her sadhakas. True? Warm regards --- jagbir singh <adishakti_org wrote: > > > shriadishakti , " Dr.Nitin > Khandelwal " > <dr_nitin_khandelwal> wrote: > > > > || JAI SHRI MATAJI || > > > > Dear Brother Anil, JAI SHRI MATAJI !! > > > > Diagnosis of your Subtle System tells that the > following of your > Chakras are Catching: - > > > > (1) LEFT MOOLADHAR CHAKRA > > > > (2) CENTRAL SWADHISHTHAN CHAKRA > > > > (3) CENTRAL NAABHI CHAKRA > > > > (4) CENTRAL VISHUDDHI CHAKRA > > > > > Nitin, > > You were banned from this forum and you have written > under another > ID. We don't need your constant advise on chakras. > Please post your > comments on divinesahajayoga where they welcome such > mundane stuff. > > i will continue to delete any posts from you, as > well as any ID you > may conjure. Of all the members you need healing the > most. It is > foolish to tell others what is wrong when you > yourself are messed-up. > > i also believe you are not a doctor in the real > sense of the word. > You do not act and behave like a physician. It is > difficult to > believe that an educated doctor will resort to all > this. If you are > not please do not add that title to your name as it > misleads people > and gives you more respect than due. They may > believe you are indeed > a medical doctor who also does expert subtle system > diagnosis. > Moreoever it gives a bad name to a time honoured > tradition. > > > jagbir > > Note: i would also advise members not to provide > unsolicited catch > analysis and advise on this forum. It only makes > matters worse > because there are times when your own > catches/problems are read as > those belonging to others. And i have made it clear > over and over > again that we should just let the Mother Kundalini > do Her job. If > SYs do not get over this mindset few seekers would > want to join > Sahaja Yoga. Newcomers will always flee from SYs > like Nitin who can > only ceaselessly chatter about catches. Is this what > the Divine > Message to humanity is all about? > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 shriadishakti , Avnish Bhagat <avnishbhagat> wrote: > Hi Jagbir, > > Please dont mind my adding to this post of yours. I > really could not see what was wrong with Nithin's > advice. That said, I have a question to ask: > > Is it not true that the condition of our chakras > inside our body, determines the condition of our life > externally? > > Vice Versa, if a perons chakras are alright then he is > living a moral life, is probably financially secure > and satisfied. Is responsible, loving and self > confident? Basically, all the qualities of his chakras > express themselves in all spheres, isn't it? > > Further, he asked raz aryaan (?) to surrender > everything to Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi (Not mother > kundalini but the Mother of all Kundalinis) This is a > practice in all Sahaja Yoga collectives. We always > surrender to Shri Mataji and she with her all > prevading attention handles all problems of her > sadhakas. True? > > Warm regards > shriadishakti/message/3071 shriadishakti/message/3076 shriadishakti/message/3083 If the condition of chakras determine financial success then all the multi-millionaires in the world are indeed highly-realized souls. You asked: " We always surrender to Shri Mataji and she with her all prevading attention handles all problems of her sadhakas. True? " Yes, it is true. That is why you need not bother about the condition of chakras inside us. This is double standard used by some SYs. You just can't praise the Mother Kundalini and yet continue to honor lemons and chillies that 'heal' chakars. All this chakra charade is nothing but lack of faith in the Mother Kundlaini to heal. Ultimately your consciousness and thoughtless state determines who you are. If you get angry and shout your Vishuddhi chakra catches, warning you to check yourself. The chakra will not stop you from proceeding further ..... your own conscience and consciousness will. So who actually transforms your consciousness? The Mother Kundalini does by enlightening your Sahasrara, slowly healing you of all that is against the Spirit. The more you meditate the more the strands of Kundalini will pierce your Sahasrara. Those who have a strong kundalini made of many strands will always be better than those with less, healing all malfunctioning chakras faster, effectively and effortlessly. So just learn to meditate better and deeper, and stop speculating how the chakras reflect our personality. Chakras do not transform but a well-established, multi-strand kundalini does wonders. And She is the one who heals damaged chakras. That does not mean we have a damaged personality. Opening this pandora's box will let loose all the bhoots, baddhas, bats and spiders that we are trying to lock up. jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 shriadishakti , Avnish Bhagat <avnishbhagat> wrote: > Hi Jagbir, > > Please dont mind my adding to this post of yours. I > really could not see what was wrong with Nithin's > advice. Hi,Avnish..nothing is wrong with Nitin's post besides my warning not to do any chakras readings on this forum.I must've missed his post,otherwise I would've posted his personal chakras make-up,as I promised... < That said, I have a question to ask: > > Is it not true that the condition of our chakras > inside our body, determines the condition of our life > externally? This is true,..very true,Avnish... > Vice Versa, if a perons chakras are alright then he is > living a moral life, is probably financially secure > and satisfied. Not really my friend Avnish....remember the promise ,,you have to be your own master,,??...How about,,I am my own master,,??..You are financially secure only if you WANT that.There are 3 channels ,and this is the last time I say this.Once the left and right channel are purified,all you have to do is concentrate on a certain thought-form, and that thought-form will create the reality you want to experience. < Is responsible, loving and self > confident? Basically, all the qualities of his chakras > express themselves in all spheres, isn't it? If you don't have the courage to become your own master,as the Messenger said that.. you HAVE to...I present you with this saying... ,,Allah will take care of your camel,but you have to tie-it-up from the tree first.,, > > Further, he asked raz aryaan (?) to surrender > everything to Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi (Not mother > kundalini but the Mother of all Kundalinis) Yes..all Kundalinis is a good word.I have never heard in my life about ,,Kundalinis,,you mean there are many of them?..anyway,please tell me about the lots of kundalinis,because I have to know...can't help it. < This is a > practice in all Sahaja Yoga collectives. We always > surrender to Shri Mataji and she with her all > prevading attention handles all problems of her > sadhakas. True? NOT TRUE...All Shri Mataji does is clear -up your channels ,and then you,being you own masters,decide.DO NOT blame Shri Mataji for your own ignorance.She just gives you the power of love,the only true power in this universe.You decide in the end. Sincerely,danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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