Guest guest Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 Dear friends..an interesting email here...please help him ; A L <vindhyavasinidasi> Wed Dec 15, 2004 2:58 pm Truth behind Sahaja Yoga I am new to this forum. I came here because I sincerely want to know the truth about Sahaja Yoga. I am a Goddess devotee. I was involved in Sahaja Yoga for a couple of years. I must say that I am still confused about the experience. Surely I felt something. I felt the energy going through my body, I felt the breeze. I had wonderful meditations. But in the end it wasn't good for me, I think. The Goddess had been a liberating and empowering figure for me, but Shri Mataji changed that picture. The positive figure was gone, and I was left with a Goddess that was angry, judgemental, demanding and created fear in me. I still don't know what to think. On one side there was the energy and the meditation. On the other side there is the bad effect Shri Mataji as a guru had on me. On one hand I lost the positive, loving, empowering Goddess, but on the other hand maybe the loving Goddess is just my imagination. Why should the Goddess be nice? Maybe my experience in Sahaja Yoga just showed me my own weakness and ego? I believe that a person can be cured from a mental condition through Sahaja Yoga. But on the other hand there are those who don't get cured or get mental problems after years of meditation and dedication to Shri Mataji. Dasi ................. Sincerely,danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2004 Report Share Posted December 15, 2004 Thanks Danny, i have already sent him an invitation to discuss his problems here but am unsure about address. Can you bring him over here? jagbir shriadishakti , " calugar22 " <calugar22> wrote: > > Dear friends..an interesting email here...please help him ; > > A L <vindhyavasinidasi> > Wed Dec 15, 2004 2:58 pm > Truth behind Sahaja Yoga > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 Dear Dasi, Jai Shri Mataji, Thank you for responding and joining this forum. i will honestly respond to your legitimate enquiry and do my best to keep your attention on the Goddess within, not Her incarnation as Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. The answers may take a day or two. i would appreaciate if in the meantime you read the archives at the bottom of the homepage of this forum: http://www.adishakti.org/forum/archives.htm jagbir shriadishakti , " calugar22 " <calugar22> wrote: > > Dear friends..an interesting email here...please help him ; > > A L <vindhyavasinidasi> > Wed Dec 15, 2004 2:58 pm > Truth behind Sahaja Yoga > > > I am new to this forum. I came here because I > sincerely want to know the truth about Sahaja Yoga. > > I am a Goddess devotee. I was involved in Sahaja Yoga > for a couple of years. I must say that I am still > confused about the experience. > > Surely I felt something. I felt the energy going > through my body, I felt the breeze. I had wonderful > meditations. > > But in the end it wasn't good for me, I think. The > Goddess had been a liberating and empowering figure > for me, but Shri Mataji changed that picture. The > positive figure was gone, and I was left with a > Goddess that was angry, judgemental, demanding and > created fear in me. > > I still don't know what to think. On one side there > was the energy and the meditation. On the other side > there is the bad effect Shri Mataji as a guru had on > me. > > On one hand I lost the positive, loving, empowering > Goddess, but on the other hand maybe the loving > Goddess is just my imagination. Why should the Goddess > be nice? Maybe my experience in Sahaja Yoga just > showed me my own weakness and ego? > > I believe that a person can be cured from a mental > condition through Sahaja Yoga. But on the other hand > there are those who don't get cured or get mental > problems after years of meditation and dedication to > Shri Mataji. > > Dasi > ................ > > Sincerely,danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 Thank you for the welcome. This is a forum for Sahaja Yogis, right? I must confess that I feel a bit uncomfortable here, because I am not a Sahaja Yogi and some of you (I mean some Sahaja Yogis, not you personally) have hurt my feelings quite deeply. However, looking forward to the discussions. Dasi ps. I am a she. > Dear Dasi, > > Jai Shri Mataji, > > Thank you for responding and joining this forum. i > will honestly > respond to your legitimate enquiry and do my best to > keep your > attention on the Goddess within, not Her incarnation > as Shri Mataji > Nirmala Devi. The answers may take a day or two. > > i would appreaciate if in the meantime you read the > archives at the > bottom of the homepage of this forum: > > http://www.adishakti.org/forum/archives.htm > > jagbir > > > shriadishakti , " calugar22 " > <calugar22> > wrote: > > > > Dear friends..an interesting email here...please > help him ; > > > > A L <vindhyavasinidasi> > > Wed Dec 15, 2004 2:58 pm > > Truth behind Sahaja Yoga > > > > > > I am new to this forum. I came here because I > > sincerely want to know the truth about Sahaja > Yoga. > > > > I am a Goddess devotee. I was involved in Sahaja > Yoga > > for a couple of years. I must say that I am still > > confused about the experience. > > > > Surely I felt something. I felt the energy going > > through my body, I felt the breeze. I had > wonderful > > meditations. > > > > But in the end it wasn't good for me, I think. The > > Goddess had been a liberating and empowering > figure > > for me, but Shri Mataji changed that picture. The > > positive figure was gone, and I was left with a > > Goddess that was angry, judgemental, demanding and > > created fear in me. > > > > I still don't know what to think. On one side > there > > was the energy and the meditation. On the other > side > > there is the bad effect Shri Mataji as a guru had > on > > me. > > > > On one hand I lost the positive, loving, > empowering > > Goddess, but on the other hand maybe the loving > > Goddess is just my imagination. Why should the > Goddess > > be nice? Maybe my experience in Sahaja Yoga just > > showed me my own weakness and ego? > > > > I believe that a person can be cured from a mental > > condition through Sahaja Yoga. But on the other > hand > > there are those who don't get cured or get mental > > problems after years of meditation and dedication > to > > Shri Mataji. > > > > Dasi > > ................ > > > > Sincerely,danny > > > > ______________________ Messenger - Communicate instantly... " Ping " your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger./download/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 Dear Dasi, i just started preparing your post and, upon checking this, have assumed that you are no longer a SYogini. It is indeed sad that fellow SYs have hurt you. i can assure you that i have also gone through a hard time and understand what some SYs are capable of doing to others. This is a forum where you can speak freely so that SYs are forced to look themselves in the mirror. If you can tell about these negative SYs who hurt you it would help confirm my long-held conviction that the negativity is within. Senior SYs/leaders are always trying to put the blame on external forces but i know deep in my heart that it is all within - the collectives, organization etc. i also want to know if your present disillusionment is caused more by the treatment of some SYs than the confusion with Shri Mataji. Just want to be sure. You also mentioned that you are/were a SYogini. Are you out/still hanging on/just not sure? jagbir shriadishakti , A L <vindhyavasinidasi> wrote: > > Thank you for the welcome. This is a forum for Sahaja > Yogis, right? I must confess that I feel a bit > uncomfortable here, because I am not a Sahaja Yogi and > some of you (I mean some Sahaja Yogis, not you > personally) have hurt my feelings quite deeply. > However, looking forward to the discussions. > > Dasi > > ps. I am a she. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 Jai shri mataji dasi, as ur name suggest dasi means devotee toward god/godess.this name creates a imaginary impact on ur mind.as u says ur in sy from last couple of years, and till date u cant recognise the love & power of adishakti. I will tell u my experience to u,may be it will help u. I am from hindu family who trust there is a 330 millions god & as my parents say our kulswamini is a first to us then shirdi ke sai baba & then other guru who is talking abt god (even they are not realised). i obey their order in my childhood,as i saw all black magics , treatments & all guru's style & but after i attend sy on 9th sept 2002,i suddenly saw thrigunatmika before mahamantra starts.its only a miracle. but as my sanskaar,i returned again to old things.but soon i realised that i only love to my mother SM. I come back regularly to sy. After continueing it again i loss my relatives,my feel like a winner,is a my victory.I taste everything like nectar.everything got change. but if u still not totally surrender to SY or SM,then why dont u self ask in meditation to SM that r u really a goddess adi-shakti??? Am I really a holy spirit??? as now we are holy spirit. U will definitely get ur answer. Jai shri mataji > A L <vindhyavasinidasi>> Wed Dec 15, 2004 2:58 pm> Truth behind Sahaja Yoga> > > I am new to this forum. I came here because I> sincerely want to know the truth about Sahaja Yoga.> > I am a Goddess devotee. I was involved in Sahaja Yoga> for a couple of years. I must say that I am still> confused about the experience.> > Surely I felt something. I felt the energy going> through my body, I felt the breeze. I had wonderful> meditations.> > But in the end it wasn't good for me, I think. The> Goddess had been a liberating and empowering figure> for me, but Shri Mataji changed that picture. The> positive figure was gone, and I was left with a> Goddess that was angry, judgemental, demanding and> created fear in me.> > I still don't know what to think. On one side there> was the energy and the meditation. On the other side> there is the bad effect Shri Mataji as a guru had on> me.> > On one hand I lost the positive, loving, empowering> Goddess, but on the other hand maybe the loving> Goddess is just my imagination. Why should the Goddess> be nice? Maybe my experience in Sahaja Yoga just> showed me my own weakness and ego?> > I believe that a person can be cured from a mental> condition through Sahaja Yoga. But on the other hand> there are those who don't get cured or get mental> problems after years of meditation and dedication to> Shri Mataji.> > Dasi> ................> > Sincerely,danny India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 > This is a forum where you can speak freely so that > SYs are forced to > look themselves in the mirror. If you can tell about > these negative > SYs who hurt you it would help confirm my long-held > conviction that > the negativity is within. I don't want to say anything bad about these people. I am a very sensitive person and my feelings are easily hurt. Let's just say that those Sahaja Yogis may be right about me. I may have a big ego, conditionings, my chakras may be all caught up, but it hurts when these things are thrown at my face. > i also want to know if your present disillusionment > is caused more > by the treatment of some SYs than the confusion with > Shri Mataji. I guess both. Of course it has an effect when people make me feel bad. I also wonder why there are lots of Sahaja Yogis who seem very hard and cold, especially among those who are close to Shri Mataji. Shouldn't they be the most angel-like, loving and compassionate people on earth? But my feelings are linked with Shri Mataji, too. I just don't see her as the loving and compassionate mother. I always hoped that I would be one of those who just recognize her, love her and surrender their lives to her without any doubts or any confusion. I don't know how many times I prayed that I would be able to love her like that. I don't know how many times I have asked in my meditation if she is the Goddess. In the beginning I got no answers, nothing. In the end I just felt some sort of a darkness or negative feeling. > Just want to be sure. You also mentioned that you > are/were a > SYogini. Are you out/still hanging on/just not sure? I would say that I am out of Sahaja Yoga. But I am confused and not sure if I have done the right thing. Dasi ______________________ Messenger - Communicate instantly... " Ping " your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger./download/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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