Do SYs think it is about time to tell the truth about the Divine Message?

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> > shriadishakti , SRIRAM <sri204> wrote:

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> > > Dear Family,

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> > > Jai Shri Mataji,

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> > > The three days historic Christmas Puja 2004 Seminar draws

> > > close with the announcement of the forthcoming Shiv Puja on

> > > 12th and 13th March 2005 followed by Birthday Puja on

> > > 19th ,20th and 21st March 2005 in the same place. There were

> > > many historic events that followed in this world in these few

> > > historical dates from 24th to 26th Dec.2004. This includes the

> > > worst ever tremor on 26th Dec at 6:14 AM (8.9 in Richter

> > > scale, one of the major one in this century) (Shri (Maha)

> > > Ganesha Devta's Fury accentuated with the Gurus'(Ocean)

> > > response with Tsunamis over the coast of Indonesia, Colombo

> > > and India with wiping off more than 3000 lives from the face

> > > of this earth.

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> shriadishakti , " jagbir singh "

> <adishakti_org> wrote:

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> > Nitin,

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> > i do not want you to post Rabi Ghosh's personal remarks or

> > repost from the divinesahajayoga forum. His remarks about the

> > earthquake victims, which now are in excess of 50,000, is

> > totally irresponsible and very damaging to Sahaja Yoga. This is

> > a public forum and i totally disagree with Rabi Ghosh's stupid

> > and childish remarks. Maybe if his own loved ones had perished

> > he would never have posted this rubbish in public. Such SYs do

> > more damage and destroy in one day what we build here in a

> > month. You are just as guilty for seconding this heartless

> > remark.

> >

> > If you persist in reposting such irresponsible and insensitive

> > remarks i will have no alternative but to moderate you.

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> > jagbir

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> Wave toll 'could exceed 100,000'

> BBC, Wednesday, 29 December, 2004, 17:59 GMT

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> " The number of dead from Sunday's Indian Ocean killer waves is

> likely to rise above 100,000, the Red Cross has said. Senior

> agency official Peter Rees said he thought the toll would rise

> sharply when victims are counted on India's remote Andaman and

> Nicobar islands.

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> Almost 77,000 people have so far been confirmed dead....

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> In Tamil Nadu state on the Indian mainland, officials have given

> up trying to count victims and are concentrating instead on

> burying the dead and helping survivors. " (BBC)

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> Just wanted to know if the large number of SYs in Tamil Nadu,

> especially in Chennai, are safe. Hope all their loved ones and

> relatives were out of harm's way from this unprecedented disaster.

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> Maybe now Nitin will understand why this article by Rabi should

> never have been posted prematurely by him when the toll was just

> 3000. Now that it is likely to rise above 100,000 it will be very

> difficult to justify Ganesha Devta's fury (if indeed that is the

> case) and SYs are victims in Tamil Nadu. But why blame Him in

> public on this forum for so much death and destruction?

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> That is why i do not want any irresponsible and insensitive posts

> from the divinesahajayoga forum to be freely posted here. Leave

> that reposting to me. Hope you do not mind.

>

> jagbir

 

 

i have just answered to an ex-SY, Satya (see email right below),

that is relevant to what i have been trying to say at the thread

above regarding the Asian tsunami. And from recent private emails

received from those who have left it is clear that they have little

idea what Sahaja Yoga is actually all about:

 

" Can't sleep, so just to finish off about the friend from SY - this

is the person I have recently visited who was in Sajah Yoga for

years. I don't know if it is up to me to say whether he ever knew

what Sahaj Yoga was about or not. I don't know if I knew either! ....

 

 I have just looked at a link on the " adishakti.org " site which

talks about the May 5th 2000 planetary line up which seemed so

important to me at the time (re my previous email). Yet no one has

ever really discussed this with me, so I only have my own ideas to

go on - I'll have a good read of that link later. It would have been

nice if when I was in Sahaj Yoga and told the leader of my local

group that I had had some kind of " insight " about the grand

cross

alignment he or someone could have talked to me about it and

explained why it was important. Perhaps he did not know himself. Yet

the leader was a nice and sincere person and I would very much doubt

that he has left the movement. ....

 

With me I think for all my personal faults I do have a very deep

understanding of spiritual matters and I find it hard to find anyone

who can really discuss things with me on a deep level. This may

sound like I am full of my own self importance, which I may well be,

but I hope you can see what I am saying here. It is like Einstein

trying to talk to a child about his theory of relativity! He might

love the child and like talking to him/her, but the child just has

no idea of what he is talking about and can only see things in their

own limited understanding. This was I think like me whilst I was in

Sahaj Yoga. I don't think that the leader of the group or the friend

I have just visited had really any idea what I was talking about. I

don't think anyone I spoke to had really, so they just thought I was

talking nonsense or just ignored what I was saying. Instead they

were saying that what I was experiencing was not Sajah Yoga, whilst

as you say, talking about lemons and chillies, whatever! So I got

frustrated and left. There are many things that other people can

teach me which I need to learn, but I also think there are things

that I can teach other people, but I don't seem to be able to find

anyone to " hear " me! " (end of quote)

 

 

i am posting all the faults and shortcomings of SYs, including how

the behavior of a few reflects on many. Seekers have no means of

getting answers to their queries, even regarded as negative should

they persist. Continuously telling them to use lemons, chillies and

coconuts to clear chakras (problems!?) only exacerbates the

frustration and expedites their departure. The same scenario is

repeated all over the world.

 

Until and unless this organization becomes more transparent and

forthright about its core message, and give evidence and answers as

to its claims we will continue losing 99% of all new seekers. Giving

them self-realization is one thing. Explaining truthfully and making

them thoroughly understand why self-realization is necessary for

taking part in the Great Event is another thing altogether. Let's

stop blaming them for leaving in ignorance and start admitting that

our lack of faith and abundance of fear in the public accepting the

Divine Message is the root of all failures.

 

The initial few weeks/months are so critical in establishing new

seekers in participating in the Great Event ordained for humanity.

Failure to do so will result in almost all leaving, whether

immediately or after some time. Satya is just another disillusioned

seeker who will never return again. Had we SYs been honest and

forthright right from the beginning it may have perhaps established

her faith. Do SYs think it is about time to tell the truth about the

Divine Message? Or is it true that most SYs can only explain Sahaja

Yoga in a subtle system mindset?

 

jagbir

 

 

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Hi Satya,

 

Have you ever considered that getting another job actually saved

you? Do not belittle the Shakti within you who does all the saving,

even defying death, as and when necessary.

 

http://www.adishakti.org/witnessing_her_miracles.htm

 

So do not think that leaving Sahaja Yoga probably saved your life.

You have no idea how the Adi Shakti works from within and neither do

most SYs. Their attention has always been external, including yours.

 

jagbir

 

 

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Dear all

 

I was in Sahaja yoga till the begining of this year. I was

working in a town which is on the sea shore in INDIA.

That job is not good for my career, with respect work as well as

salary. I used to have lot of free time. As a sahaj yogi, I felt that

may be shri mataji, wants me to do sahaj work, that's why I am free.

We stayed in a house which is near to the sea, and everyday morning

and evening, we spend some time near the sea (for footsoaking, shoe

booting and some times taking bath in the sea etc.)

 

Last year doubts on sahaja yoga started pouring in my mind. Day

after the day, the doubts are increasing. I am in favor of sahaja

yoga, I wanted to see these doubts as doubts only, but not as real

ones. Fortunately/Unfortunately that doesn't happened, 70% I came to

conclusion that sahaja yoga might be wrong. Then I decided to

concentrate on my career, so I left that job which is not good for my

career and because of my current job, I went to a different town

which is not on the sea shore of INDIA. After 6/7 months my

conclusion came to 99% that sahaja yoga is a false organization.

This week's incident made me to feel shock, because the place we

stayed previously was severly affected by tsunami. If I was in sahaja

yoga, surely we would have been doing foot soaking/shoe booting on

the sea shore at the time of tsunami (Tsunami time is morning 8:30AM

on Indian Standard Time). Imagining that itself is very difficult.

 

 

Satya