Iqbal: It is for God's will. It is for the betterment of mankind at large.

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shriadishakti , " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org> wrote:

>

> The questions you have asked should be posed to the priests,

> pastors, reverends, bishops, popes, rabbis, clerics, imams,

> mullahs, shaikhs, ulema, ayatollahs, gurus, swamis, pandits,

> brahmins, acaryas, bhagwans, granthis, gianis, lamas, monks and

> dalai lamas. They are the ones who claim their gods are protecting

> them, not those of their rivals. Since tens of thousands of

> faithful have perished why not seek answers from their leaders?

> Maybe we should ask them why their gods were so indiscriminate

> when they (gods) should have selected only non-Christians? non-

> Muslims? non-Hindus? non-Jews? non-Buddhists? non-Sikhs? Don't you

> think you should get angry at their gods for not protecting those

> who sought protection from them?

>

> But let's not bring God Almighty into this mental brawl. None of

> us know about Him or how He operates. Since life is eternal why

> are we arguing about death? So who said God Almighty killed

> anyone? Why are we talking about Heaven when Earth is hell? Why

> and what is the criteria He uses when choosing some and leaving

> the rest? In the first place, who are we to question Him?

>

> Jane, you are just too sensitive to all that death and destruction

> that is going around. That is not a healthy way to live because

> you will hurt daily. You are going to have really serious problems

> coping with life, if you don't have them at present. The future is

> only going to get worse and you have to really learn how to cope

> with this reality. Maybe now you will realize why God Almighty

> sent the Comforter to announce the Last Judgment as the death and

> destruction is only getting worse. Now those like me who believe

> in Him and His Call to commence the Resurrection have begin to

> heal ourselves and live righteous lives. Don't you think these

> souls who believe in His Divine Message be protected by Him?

>

>

 

 

'Where is God in all this?' - the problem for religions

The Guardian (Monday January 3, 2005)

 

The destruction of the Portuguese capital Lisbon in an earthquake in

1755, which killed 60,000 people, was the event which helped to

provoke the Enlightenment and first caused philosophers to ask more

sophisticated questions about God's role than divine vindictiveness

towards wicked people.

 

Iqbal Sacranie, the secretary general of the Muslim Council of

Britain, told the BBC Sunday programme: " This is the will of God

almighty. It is this aspect that is beyond us. Allah knows best.

None of us is going to live for an indefinite period. Death always

takes place but what form it takes is always beyond us. People of

faith need to have a very firm belief in God almighty. It is for

God's will. It is for the betterment of mankind at large. "

 

But Fergus Stokes, a former priest turned humanist, said that

Christians and other believers were trying to have it both

ways: " Either God has a hand in the fishbowl, in which case you can

pray to him, or he doesn't. "

 

" There is some kind of inbuilt desire to hang on to supernatural

forces. More and more, religion is not working for people and

supernatural explanations rarely help. "

 

www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1382397,00.html

 

 

Yes, it is true more and more, religion is not working for people.

It never worked for me till i came to know Shri Mataji. There has

been no guru or will there ever be one to rival Shri Mataji, who

towers above all. The world today would have known Shri Mataji far

more better and understood Sahaja Yoga in depth had SYs been frank

and fearless about the Divine Message. (i have provided evidence of

ex-SYs who have learnt little else than the subtle system, catches

and cures despite spending months/years in local collectives.)

 

Had SYs foccussed their attention and put their collective energies

to announce the commencement of the Last Judgment and Resurrection

for the last three decades, hundreds of thousands would have joined

Sahaja Yoga today.

 

But they did not and we are all paying a terrible toll today which,

in my opinion, is as tragic as the Asian tsunami itself (30 years of

silence and fear of public reaction is indeed tragic). For those

seekers today looking for answers from this unprecedented

catastrophe the subtle system makes as much sense as the terrible

disaster itself. If the tradegy is indeed God's will for the

betterment of mankind at large, what will humans relate to - the

subtle system or the Divine Message addressed to all humanity?

 

But for three decades Shri Mataji has explained in detail all that

is needed to understand this Divine Message. She has fulfilled Her

duties and is now more than 80-years-old. Time and again in public

She has proclaimed that the Last Judgment and Resurrection (Al-

Qiyamah) has begun. How come SY websites have made no mention of

that Great Event, the very reason She was sent to Earth? How can

they ever give answers to Muslims and Christians, and explain God's

will that is preordained for the betterment of mankind through the

subtle system mindset? This indeed is a terrible tragedy on its own.

 

jagbir

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>

>

> 'Where is God in all this?' - the problem for religions

> The Guardian (Monday January 3, 2005)

>

> Iqbal Sacranie, the secretary general of the Muslim Council of

> Britain, told the BBC Sunday programme: " This is the will of God

> almighty. It is this aspect that is beyond us. Allah knows best.

> None of us is going to live for an indefinite period. Death always

> takes place but what form it takes is always beyond us. People of

> faith need to have a very firm belief in God almighty. It is for

> God's will. It is for the betterment of mankind at large. "

>

> But Fergus Stokes, a former priest turned humanist, said that

> Christians and other believers were trying to have it both

> ways: " Either God has a hand in the fishbowl, in which case you

> can pray to him, or he doesn't. "

>

> " There is some kind of inbuilt desire to hang on to supernatural

> forces. More and more, religion is not working for people and

> supernatural explanations rarely help. "

>

> www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1382397,00.html

>

shriadishakti , " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org> wrote:

>

> Yes, it is true more and more religion is not working for people.

> It never worked for me till i came to know Shri Mataji. There has

> been no guru or will there ever be one to rival Shri Mataji, who

> towers above all. The world today would have known Shri Mataji far

> more better and understood Sahaja Yoga in depth had SYs been frank

> and fearless about the Divine Message. (i have provided evidence

> of ex-SYs who have learnt little else than the subtle system,

> catches and cures despite spending months/years in local

> collectives.)

>

> Had SYs foccussed their attention and put their collective

> energies to announce the commencement of the Last Judgment and

> Resurrection for the last three decades, hundreds of thousands

> would have joined Sahaja Yoga today.

>

 

" The question remains as to whether some kind of spiritual evolution

is in progress, whether large amounts of people gradually taking up

meditation and other forms of inner practice will create a critical

mass of global enlightenment, or whether we will continue in what

could be called the Brazilian rain forest mode. In the past, this

theory goes, a small number of mystics, ascetics, monastics,

wandering mendicants, and other followers of the Perennial

Philosophy were capable of providing the spiritual oxygen that

helped the rest of the world to breathe and that sustained the

mainstream practice of religion with all its surface anomalies.

These days it seems increasingly questionable whether this approach

will be sufficient to redeem a crippled planet; on the whole, the

evolutionary theory makes more sense. But how long will it take? The

Bolivian visionary Oscar Ichazo said some years ago, " In the past

eras the mystical trip was an individual matter, or at least a

matter of small groups, but no longer. This is what is new in human

history. Everybody can now achieve a higher degree of consciousness.

..... The vision of humanity as one enormous family, one objective

tribe, may once have been utopian. Now it is a practical

necessity. " "

 

Peter Occhiogrosso, The Joy of Sects