The lies about Kundalini

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Dear All

These are the lies some people are advertising about Kundalini.There

is ONLY one Messenger who came to give us the message,(in our

times)..yet they believe they have had something similar.This is a

lie...Please excuse my (out of bounds) humor,as this was not

originally intended for this forum.

 

rom: " calugar22 " <calugar22>

Sat Jan 8, 2005 12:56 pm

For Miguel De Castro and Lumi

 

> talk-about-sahaja-yoga , miguel de castro

> henriques <migcah2003> wrote:

> >

> >

> > However, before Sahaja I distinctly was feeling chakras

activating,

> the Kundalini process going on (not in the way it is described by

> Sahaja - my guiding lights then were Shri Ramakrishna, Shri Ramana

> Maharishi, Zazen meditation and the Kargyupta Tibetan Tantric

> Tradition - ).

> >

Danny wrote:

Hi Miquel

> Yes,I understand your wisdom.Zazen was one of my favorite hobby,in

my

> karate-kid days.I used to sit for hours in lotus position,and think

of

> ..nothing!!..I had to empty my mind,for something good might come

> in.But it didn't work for me.I didn't get me in touch with my

pain.You

> see,if you find the cause of pain in your heart,then you can do

> something about it.If you don't,then every exterior event can cause

a

> tzunami in your soul.Do not think for a second that you have the

pain

> because of sahaja yoga,as long as you still blame something exterior

> of your own being.All the events in this exterior universe are

nothing

> but a reflection of your own being.We create our own maya,ladies and

> gentleman...Eliminate the pain within,and nothing and nobody can

> unsettle you,because there is no subconscious rezonance inside .

> However,if Zazen doesn't rise your Kundalini completely,please be

free

> to join my daily ritual...I sit in lotus,then I hold 2 humongous

> vibrated coconuts in each of my hands,while I concentrate on a

chilly

> pepper,and I'm careful to hold the lemon in perfect balance on top

of

> my hairless head.From this position I start my ass-soaking,half

> lukewarm(careful,it burns)...the other half ice-cold...trust me,it

> works .

> Sincerely,danny

 

talk-about-sahaja-yoga , " Lumi "

<lumi.sammallahti@p...> wrote:

>

> I had experiences like

> that before SY, I felt something coming out of my hands and I felt

some kind

> of a force, like kundalini, pulsating in my body. I also feel like

that now.

> Thinking that it's some kind of a Sahaja Yoga influence makes me

feel like I

> want to get rid of it, but if it's something independent and

natural, then

> I'm fine with it. Hearing others' experiences is very helpful in

this

> respect.

>

> Lumi

 

danny wrote:

Hi Lumi...this was my initial curiosity regarding the ex-sahaja

yogis.I was trying to figure out how in the world it is possible to

have your kundalini piercing your sahashara,to feel the cool breeze,to

feel the joy in your heart,then leave sahaja,and say you still

meditate.I still have no answer for I know that any attempt to

meditate(let's say you just sit down and say no mantras,no nothing,)

will activate your inner kundalini again.Sahaja yoga did not invent

the chackras,or the spirit,or the Holy Spirit.These universal facts

were here already.Be true to yourself and tell me if any sahaja yogi

looked you in the eyes,hipnotize you,and tell you...(in a deep

voice)...Lummiiiii...we will feel something cooolll in your

handsss..and aboveeee the heaadd...Lumiii...you belooonggg tu ussss

nowww.This brainwashing thing never happened,and you know it. You have

the spirit within whatever you want it or not.This why when people

tell me they did Zazen(a form of Buddhist meditation,practiced by the

samurai clan in past),and they FELT the Kundalini before sahaja,and

now they are back to Zazen,and have powerful surges of kundalini,I

have to question their sincerity.Lumi,to feel and know the truth in

your own being,is the final answer.The answer is not outside,but

inside.I challenge anybody who's left sahaja to explain me how the

kundalini manifest now while meditating in zazen,doing tantrik stuff

or whatever,and what they mean by,,beautiful meditation after I left

sahaja..

Sincerely,danny