Guest guest Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 Jai Shri Mataji, A personal question / problem here too, sorry for interrupting serious discussions here at this forum, but it will be kind enough if some senior sahaj yogies/nis, by putting their attention, would like to make me clear of the situation. I am practsing Sahaj Yoga for past 17 months, attending collectivity regularly, doing evening meditation regularly, missing morning meditation too much. I have also attended 3 international poojas and almost attended all the Local poojas and havans. For last 15 months, I felt something moving inside my fontannel area. This sensation persists for 24 hours, 7 days a week. I just can't explain what I am feeling, but it is something like that " inside flesh and skin of my head is going upward " , " someting twisting around the head between forehead and sahatrar " , " sometimes it feels like someone is stitching something there " , " sometimes feels that something like a knife is moving inside " etc etc.This is also happening at present when I am typing this post. Means, this happens all the time and persisting for more than a year. Kindly explain what this feeling is. Is this due to a catch or a normal feeling or any desease and how to get rid of this feeling. Also, kindly let me know the simplest methodology to be adopted for meditation for achieving thoughtless state. Anil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 Hi I am not a senior Sahaj Yoga person so I do not have the answer to your question - but I do share the experience you detail - that or very similar. It started when I was in SY but they did not seem to know what I was on about so just I suppose thought I was imagining it! Do you feel when something sharp or even say the edge of a newspaper it anyway near you that it is almost cutting into you? Do you sometimes feel something kind of "pulsing" inside you - with me it's around the right ear. Also. not nice to talk about (you can email me personally if you wish - but do you seem to be undergoing some kind of "clearing out process" - I mean bacteria coming out of the phyical body, not clearing out the "catches" in the chakras, etc - which I don't really understand at all! If you are undergoing what I am experiencing it will indeed "happen all the time" whether you meditate or not! And it will go on for years! I only hope for myself that there is eventually some positive "outcome" to this process! jane.pickup1) - miracle_x1 shriadishakti Sunday, January 09, 2005 6:11 PM [shriadishakti] Sensation / Catch / Or Desease Jai Shri Mataji,A personal question / problem here too, sorry for interrupting serious discussions here at this forum, but it will be kind enough if some senior sahaj yogies/nis, by putting their attention, would like to make me clear of the situation.I am practsing Sahaj Yoga for past 17 months, attending collectivity regularly, doing evening meditation regularly, missing morning meditation too much. I have also attended 3 international poojas and almost attended all the Local poojas and havans.For last 15 months, I felt something moving inside my fontannel area. This sensation persists for 24 hours, 7 days a week. I just can't explain what I am feeling, but it is something like that "inside flesh and skin of my head is going upward", "someting twisting around the head between forehead and sahatrar", "sometimes it feels like someone is stitching something there", "sometimes feels that something like a knife is moving inside" etc etc.This is also happening at present when I am typing this post. Means, this happens all the time and persisting for more than a year. Kindly explain what this feeling is. Is this due to a catch or a normal feeling or any desease and how to get rid of this feeling. Also, kindly let me know the simplest methodology to be adopted for meditation for achieving thoughtless state.Anil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 shriadishakti , " miracle_x1 " <miracle_x1> wrote: > > Jai Shri Mataji, > A personal question / problem here too, sorry for interrupting > serious discussions here at this forum, but it will be kind enough > if some senior sahaj yogies/nis, by putting their attention, would > like to make me clear of the situation. > I am practsing Sahaj Yoga for past 17 months, attending > collectivity regularly, doing evening meditation regularly, > missing morning meditation too much. I have also attended 3 > international poojas and almost attended all the Local poojas and > havans. For last 15 months, I felt something moving inside my > fontannel area. This sensation persists for 24 hours, 7 days a > week. I just can't explain what I am feeling, but it is something > like that " inside flesh and skin of my head is going > upward " , " someting twisting around the head between forehead and > sahatrar " , " sometimes it feels like someone is stitching something > there " , " sometimes feels that something like a knife is moving > inside " etc etc.This is also happening at present when I am typing this post. Means, this happens all the time and persisting for more than a year. Kindly explain what this feeling is. Is this due to a catch or a normal feeling or any desease and how to get rid of this > feeling. > Dear Anil, i did sometimes feel my head going upward and much pressure around Sahasrara a few years ago. They were accepted as part of the kundlaini awakening process, and not much attention was paid. After all, they just were a little uncomfortable and nothing more. But there was no 'stitching' or 'knife is moving'. You never indicated if these were painful. If they are then go and see a doctor. Forget about any cures or mantras or further advise. > Also, kindly let me know the simplest methodology to be adopted > > for meditation for achieving thoughtless state. > http://www.adishakti.org/forum/being_thoughtless_is_it_a_matter_of_pr actice,_will-power_7-22-2004.htm take care, jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 There is no methodology in sahaja Yoga as you must have already known by now. Its a spontaneous act at every step. Aran't you thoughtless already. Thoughtless does not mean without thoughts it means to be able to watch your thoughts and not getting entangled into them. when you do that every day then a stage will come when thoughts stop completely this is the begining of doubtless awareness. what you are feeling is perfectly normal. just surrender every thought to Mother throughout the day. Please do not analyse it so much. it is all fine. just watch your attention all the time. RK On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 miracle_x1 wrote : >Jai Shri Mataji, >A personal question / problem here too, sorry for interrupting >serious discussions here at this forum, but it will be kind enough >if some senior sahaj yogies/nis, by putting their attention, would >like to make me clear of the situation. >I am practsing Sahaj Yoga for past 17 months, attending >collectivity regularly, doing evening meditation regularly, missing >morning meditation too much. I have also attended 3 international >poojas and almost attended all the Local poojas and havans. >For last 15 months, I felt something moving inside my fontannel >area. This sensation persists for 24 hours, 7 days a week. I just >can't explain what I am feeling, but it is something like >that " inside flesh and skin of my head is going upward " , " someting >twisting around the head between forehead and sahatrar " , " sometimes >it feels like someone is stitching something there " , " sometimes >feels that something like a knife is moving inside " etc etc.This is >also happening at present when I am typing this post. Means, this >happens all the time and persisting for more than a year. Kindly >explain what this feeling is. Is this due to a catch or a normal >feeling or any desease and how to get rid of this feeling. Also, >kindly let me know the simplest methodology to be adopted for >meditation for achieving thoughtless state. >Anil > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 Hi It would be wonderful to experience "thoughtless awareness" which I have certainly not achieved, but if Anil IS experiencing what I am experiencing (it may be quite different) this is nothing to do with "thoughts" - it is a physical process that seems to be going on. I personally find it hard to believe that the kundalini can just shoot up from the base charka and emerge out of the top of the head in one moment of "self realisation." All I felt was a movement of energy at the base of my spine on the first occasion I did the "self realisation" practise - that seemed to start some process off that has now gone on for years. I was told at the time that "this did not happen to everyone" and yet later it appeared as if "everyone" was getting the whole thing straight off - straight up to the top charka & out through the top of the head. If everyone else in SY experienced this to start with and has had none of the discomfort that I have had (I can accept that some might have done) how come so many of them then left years after and say they never experienced anything and do not know what "a spiritual experience" is? Might they not have just gone along with what seems to be expected of them? I am not trying to be critical or negative here, please believe me, I am just trying now to make sense of all my experiences over the last seven years and try to figure what part SY played in it. I personally feel that we are like a walking "biofilm" of bacteria - the only concern of which is self preservation (like Professor Dawkins "selfish gene" - a selfish entity) - concerned only with self and immediate family, and maybe one's own country, "war" thus being just a fact of life). At some stage this "biofilm" (however beautiful and healthy it might appear!) has to either "wake up" from it's own blinkered little world and become aware that there is a far greater reality to become part of - like realising that rather than just being a little "body" oneself, one is part of a whole and must learn to work with other parts of this whole if the larger body is to survive. Otherwise one can be like a cancerous cell within this greater body, unaware that one is even part of it. If one continues in this way, we just gradually begin to rot and decay and die. Otherwise something in one begins to "rise" and start to climb through all the bacteria, up towards the light. I can't believe that this process can happen in two minutes! Not for the vast majority of people anyway - maybe for a saintly few! - rajesh kalra shriadishakti Monday, January 10, 2005 4:51 AM Re: [shriadishakti] Sensation / Catch / Or Desease There is no methodology in sahaja Yoga as you must have already known by now. Its a spontaneous act at every step. Aran't you thoughtless already. Thoughtless does not mean without thoughts it means to be able to watch your thoughts and not getting entangled into them. when you do that every day then a stage will come when thoughts stop completely this is the begining of doubtless awareness. what you are feeling is perfectly normal. just surrender every thought to Mother throughout the day.Please do not analyse it so much. it is all fine. just watch your attention all the time.RK On Sun, 09 Jan 2005 miracle_x1 wrote :>Jai Shri Mataji,>A personal question / problem here too, sorry for interrupting>serious discussions here at this forum, but it will be kind enough>if some senior sahaj yogies/nis, by putting their attention, would>like to make me clear of the situation.>I am practsing Sahaj Yoga for past 17 months, attending>collectivity regularly, doing evening meditation regularly, missing>morning meditation too much. I have also attended 3 international>poojas and almost attended all the Local poojas and havans.>For last 15 months, I felt something moving inside my fontannel>area. This sensation persists for 24 hours, 7 days a week. I just>can't explain what I am feeling, but it is something like>that "inside flesh and skin of my head is going upward", "someting>twisting around the head between forehead and sahatrar", "sometimes>it feels like someone is stitching something there", "sometimes>feels that something like a knife is moving inside" etc etc.This is>also happening at present when I am typing this post. Means, this>happens all the time and persisting for more than a year. Kindly>explain what this feeling is. Is this due to a catch or a normal>feeling or any desease and how to get rid of this feeling. Also,>kindly let me know the simplest methodology to be adopted for>meditation for achieving thoughtless state.>Anil> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 jagbir singh <adishakti_org wrote: Jagbir Ji, I am not feeling any pain due to that inside movements, but felt enormous presseure in the fontannel area. Sometimes, it leads towards a headache, but surely not a physical problem yet. Jai Shri Mataji anilshriadishakti , "miracle_x1" <miracle_x1> wrote:> > Jai Shri Mataji,> A personal question / problem here too, sorry for interrupting > serious discussions here at this forum, but it will be kind enough > if some senior sahaj yogies/nis, by putting their attention, would > like to make me clear of the situation.> I am practsing Sahaj Yoga for past 17 months, attending > collectivity regularly, doing evening meditation regularly, > missing morning meditation too much. I have also attended 3 > international poojas and almost attended all the Local poojas and > havans. For last 15 months, I felt something moving inside my > fontannel area. This sensation persists for 24 hours, 7 days a > week. I just can't explain what I am feeling, but it is something > like that "inside flesh and skin of my head is going > upward", "someting twisting around the head between forehead and > sahatrar", "sometimes it feels like someone is stitching something > there", "sometimes feels that something like a knife is moving > inside" etc etc.This is also happening at present when I am typing this post. Means, this happens all the time and persisting for more than a year. Kindly explain what this feeling is. Is this due to a catch or a normal feeling or any desease and how to get rid of this > feeling. >Dear Anil,i did sometimes feel my head going upward and much pressure around Sahasrara a few years ago. They were accepted as part of the kundlaini awakening process, and not much attention was paid. After all, they just were a little uncomfortable and nothing more.But there was no 'stitching' or 'knife is moving'. You never indicated if these were painful. If they are then go and see a doctor. Forget about any cures or mantras or further advise.> Also, kindly let me know the simplest methodology to be adopted > > for meditation for achieving thoughtless state.> http://www.adishakti.org/forum/being_thoughtless_is_it_a_matter_of_practice,_will-power_7-22-2004.htmtake care,jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 shriadishakti , anil kumar <miracle_x1> wrote: > > jagbir singh <adishakti_org> wrote: > Jagbir Ji, > > I am not feeling any pain due to that inside movements, but felt enormous presseure in the fontannel area. Sometimes, it leads towards a headache, but surely not a physical problem yet. > > Jai Shri Mataji > > anil > > Dear Anil, If that is the case i.e., you are not having any pains, try to use the thoughtless state to heal yourself while in meditation. In that thoughtless state put your enlightened attention on the areas bothering you. Continue doing this until you are able to heal it. In future you will be able to spontaneously heal yourself of _all_ catches. Believe me. You will be fine Anil. Who knows what the Mother Kundalini is trying to do for you. Sometimes healing is uncomfortable. Since you feel no pain then you are in good hands and let Her complete the job. And follow Rajesh's advise: " Please do not analyse it so much. it is all fine. " i agree completely. jagbir " rajesh kalra " <kalrajesh Sun Jan 9, 2005 11:51 pm Re: [shriadishakti] Sensation / Catch / Or Desease There is no methodology in sahaja Yoga as you must have already known by now. Its a spontaneous act at every step. Aran't you thoughtless already. Thoughtless does not mean without thoughts it means to be able to watch your thoughts and not getting entangled into them. when you do that every day then a stage will come when thoughts stop completely this is the begining of doubtless awareness. what you are feeling is perfectly normal. just surrender every thought to Mother throughout the day. Please do not analyse it so much. it is all fine. just watch your attention all the time. RK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 shriadishakti , " Jane Pickup " <jane.pickup1@b...> wrote: > Hi > > It would be wonderful to experience " thoughtless awareness " which I have certainly not achieved, but if Anil IS experiencing what I am experiencing (it may be quite different) this is nothing to do with " thoughts " - it is a physical process that seems to be going on. I personally find it hard to believe that the kundalini can just shoot up from the base charka and emerge out of the top of the head in one moment of " self realisation. " All I felt was a movement of energy at the base of my spine on the first occasion I did the " self realisation " practise - that seemed to start some process off that has now gone on for years. I was told at the time that " this did not happen to everyone " and yet later it appeared as if " everyone " was getting the whole thing straight off - straight up to the top charka & out through the top of the head. If everyone else in SY experienced this to start with and has had none of the discomfort that I have had (I can accept that some might have done) how come so many of them then left years after and say they never experienced anything and do not know what " a spiritual experience " is? > > Might they not have just gone along with what seems to be expected of them? I am not trying to be critical or negative here, please believe me, I am just trying now to make sense of all my experiences over the last seven years and try to figure what part SY played in > it. I personally feel that we are like a walking " biofilm " of bacteria - the only concern of which is self preservation (like Professor Dawkins " selfish gene " - a selfish entity) - concerned > only with self and immediate family, and maybe one's own country, " war " thus being just a fact of life). At some stage this " biofilm " (however beautiful and healthy it might appear!) has to either " wake up " from it's own blinkered little world and become aware that there is a far greater reality to become part of - like realising that rather than just being a little " body " oneself, one is part of a whole and must learn to work with other parts of this whole if the larger body is to survive. Otherwise one can be like a cancerous cell within this greater body, unaware that one is even part of it. If one continues in this way, we just gradually begin to > rot and decay and die. Otherwise something in one begins to " rise " and start to climb through all the bacteria, up towards the light. I can't believe that this process can happen in two minutes! Not for > the vast majority of people anyway - maybe for a saintly few! > > Dear Jane, If you continue speculating/analyzing/theorizing whatever you are trying to understand there will be no end to your enquiries and sub- divisions. We can go on forever and even end up on the outer fringes of the big bang, but it will not help. Let me tell what is happening in your case and try to understand my sense of humor. Say you have a stomachache and went to your family doctor. He examines and finds that you have a rather serious gastronomical problem. He prescribes a strict diet and strong drugs. But instead of following his advise you begin questioning how the stomach functions, delving further about various vital organs, their connection to each other, and relation to the stomach. Then you want to know the nutritional information of the vegetables (for the diet) and whether they should be purchased in bulk or grown in the backyard. But you worry your food stamps may go to waste, and will miss the huge discounts offered by competing supermarkets. Just imagine that paying $1.00 for two seedless cucumbers in frozen January are a steal, a good bargain feeeling that you don't want to miss. But then you worry who will pay the wages of these poor pickers if you don't buy 20, and tell your friends to help for a good cause? Then, again, how to eat 20 cucumbers in a week and will my friends understand my compassion? However you begin to doubt if they will be beneficial due to your deep belief that fertilizers cause cancer and other grim diseases. Natural cow dung is also a no-no as flies will have no better place to lay their eggs, and this will disturb/break-up the natural order of the universe and set off chain reactions completely unrelated to cows, dung and flies. You also want to know where the fruit and vegetables come from because of your concern for worker's right. You just do not want anything from Mexico because these illegal immigrants are exploited in America. (Imagine how much worse off will they be in their own native country where the NAFTA has produced billionaires almost overnight. Wonder how much blood, sweat and tears were required for all the wealth.) There is also deep suspicion that children are used to pick up fruits and vegetables, so you want nothing of this diet. All types of drugs are also on your hate list because for generations scientists have tortured millions of monkeys. You do not mind pigs and chickens being tested, since you like bacon and eggs, but definitely not monkeys. How can any human do such disgusting and distressful experiments of our great-great-great (to the power of 108) ancestors? If monkeys tasted like bacon you would reconsider this believe, even recant it to save pigs whose body parts are being increasing inserted in dying humans to sustain life longer. However, if scientists discover that pigs are indeed our closest ancestors that would be a huge, huge sigh of relieve ..... at the expense of monkeys, chimpanzees and orang-utans, of course. But what really stumped the doctor is humans being " biofilms of bacteria " . He had no choice but to call the day off and report being sick. And the poor chap had to tell you that he just cannot help if you do not stop asking so many frivolous questions and instead listen to him. So where does all that leave you? You are now without the strict diet, strong drugs and the doctor to help. So until and unless you follow the advise (meditate regularly) of the doctor (Mother Kundalini) so that the strict diet and drugs (reconfiguration/ healing of the mind) will work, nothing can help you. No matter what is explained here will help _until_ and _unless_ you begin meditating regularly. And i have to honestly tell you that whatever you want to know about " biofilms of bacteria " have little or nothing to do with yoga. jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 shriadishakti , " Jane Pickup " <jane.pickup1@b...> wrote: > Hi > > It would be wonderful to experience " thoughtless awareness " which I have certainly not achieved, but if Anil IS experiencing what I am experiencing (it may be quite different) this is nothing to do with " thoughts " - it is a physical process that seems to be going on. I personally find it hard to believe that the kundalini can just shoot up from the base charka and emerge out of the top of the head in one moment of " self realisation. " .................................................................. Hi,Jane..(Unlike you,I address people by their names,but you just say Hi..to whom you say Hi?..just curious) In the first, why do you think it would be wonderful to experience ,,thoughtless awareness,,..maybe it is something very horrible ..how do you know it will be beautiful?..Please elaborate this subject,cas' I don't get it.Second,nobody asked you to believe in Kundalini.Did I?..Jane...even if I did,how can I prove it?..talking you under the table about it?..the fact that you find hard to believe whatever,has no meaning to me.It's not the point.I even didn't believe in GOD before sahaja.I was raised in a strict communist regime,where the notion of GOD was banned.What is the point of telling me about what you don't believe?...tell me in what YOU believe,then I could understand you.By the way,do you believe in something,or anything at all?..just curious. It comes to the ,pure desire,,...Jane.The desire to find the truth.The law of Karma proclaims that all the desires have to be fulfilled on this plane,so we might know the good and the bad,and make a choice.Do not ever tell me about what you don't believe...tell me in WHAT you believe,Jane Pickup. Sincerely,danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 Hello Danny I only put "Hi" when I am not sure who I am responding to! I wonder if you see me as a very "superficial" sort of person? I can assure you this is far from the case! I assumed whist in Sahaj Yoga that as there was so much said about achieving "thoughtless awareness" and people telling me they had achieved it and "gone collective" and how blissful this was, that it must be some kind of desirable state to be in? Re: No one asked me to believe in kundalini - firstly I wasn't saying I didn't believe in it - just that my experience of it (what I assume was it - moving up within me on my first SY meditation) did not appear to take the normal SY manner of (from what people said) was coming out of the top of the head in the form of a cool breeze.I think it is unfair of you to kind of assume I "don't believe in anything at all" (if this is what you are implying?) - again I wonder if you think I am some kind of very superficial woman who has had a really easy life and is now "toying" with the spiritual side of things? I have had a very difficult life and right from being a child I have been questioning why I/we are here and what goes on, etc. This has led me to some answers. I now believe, for example, that third world poverty is criminal when we are so affluent in the West and that the arms trade is criminal. I can no longer just "get on with life" and not try to do something to protest against this and change things. Ideally I would pack up and go to work for nothing in Africa. I don't seem to be able to do this. So I have just been to an anti war group after work that is not that easy for me to get to and is almost depressing when we consider how few of us now bother to even attend, and how little chance we appear to have of changing things, yet one or two of us have some kind of faith that things might chance one day. If I get reprimanded for belonging to such a group (ie anti-war group) by people on this list, I shall have to leave and decide that I was right to have left SY and that I do not understand it. I don't mind accepting criticism as I am becoming more and more aware of the snares of the ego but I really don't understand the apparent lack of compassion I seemed to come across whilst attending meetings in SY and have seen some evidence of in this group. So, I BELIEVE in and am working towards, despite this appearing to be against all "odds" - a fair and equal and peaceful world, where we in the West care more about a child's life, health and decent education, etc, than our own selfish and trivial "comforts." At the same time, I have to try not to feel "judgmental" and superior to lots of other people around me who do not seem to see thing like this. I also appear to have had some quite different experiences to some people in this SY discussion group - which I neither apologise for nor agree to dismiss as not being true for me - I am however prepared to accept feedback - even of a negative nature (as long as not abusive!) so that I can learn and grow! Jane P - calugar22 shriadishakti Monday, January 10, 2005 3:57 PM [shriadishakti] Re: Sensation / Catch / Or Desease shriadishakti , "Jane Pickup"<jane.pickup1@b...> wrote:> Hi> > It would be wonderful to experience "thoughtless awareness" which Ihave certainly not achieved, but if Anil IS experiencing what I amexperiencing (it may be quite different) this is nothing to do with"thoughts" - it is a physical process that seems to be going on. Ipersonally find it hard to believe that the kundalini can just shootup from the base charka and emerge out of the top of the head in onemoment of "self realisation." .................................................................Hi,Jane..(Unlike you,I address people by their names,but you just sayHi..to whom you say Hi?..just curious)In the first, why do you think it would be wonderful to experience,,thoughtless awareness,,..maybe it is something very horrible ..howdo you know it will be beautiful?..Please elaborate this subject,cas'I don't get it.Second,nobody asked you to believe in Kundalini.DidI?..Jane...even if I did,how can I prove it?..talking you under thetable about it?..the fact that you find hard to believe whatever,hasno meaning to me.It's not the point.I even didn't believe in GODbefore sahaja.I was raised in a strict communist regime,where thenotion of GOD was banned.What is the point of telling me about whatyou don't believe?...tell me in what YOU believe,then I couldunderstand you.By the way,do you believe in something,or anything atall?..just curious. It comes to the ,pure desire,,...Jane.The desire to find the truth.Thelaw of Karma proclaims that all the desires have to be fulfilled onthis plane,so we might know the good and the bad,and make a choice.Donot ever tell me about what you don't believe...tell me in WHAT youbelieve,Jane Pickup. Sincerely,danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2005 Report Share Posted January 10, 2005 shriadishakti , " Jane Pickup " <jane.pickup1@b...> wrote: > Hello Danny > > I only put " Hi " when I am not sure who I am responding to! I wonder if you see me as a very " superficial " sort of person? I can assure you this is far from the case! I assumed whist in Sahaj Yoga that as there was so much said about achieving " thoughtless awareness " and people telling me they had achieved it and " gone collective " and how blissful this was, that it must be some kind of desirable state to be in? Re: No one asked me to believe in kundalini - firstly I wasn't saying I didn't believe in it - just that my experience of it (what I assume was it - moving up within me on my first SY meditation) did not appear to take the normal SY manner of (from what people said) was coming out of the top of the head in the form of a cool breeze.I think it is unfair of you to kind of assume I " don't believe in anything at all " (if this is what you are implying?) - again I wonder if you think I am some kind of very superficial woman who has had a really easy life and is now " toying " with the spiritual side of things? I have had a very difficult life and right from being a child I have been questioning why I/we are here and what goes on, etc. > Jane...listen to me.Remember my words about ,,pure desire??..I can see that,and then I won't even bother with the chackas reading,because it is useless...I have never said you are ,,superficial,,.you said that.But what is ,,superficial..???..You tell me.Difficult life?...You are born,and then you'll die...Is death ,, difficult,,?? If is this,then you have a problem.No..death is not so hard.Learn to die ,Jane,because you have had your chance to live.But you are too..,,superficial,,..to understand this(as you said).I'm not sure what do you want from me to tell you.Do you have any questions?... Danny ps..don't believe in anybody says...believe in yourself.But still I have no idea in what you believe.But then again,who is YOU?..and who is yourself?..If I'd tell you who you are would you believe me?..you are using your free will.Can I stop that?..No..Not even GOD(you don't believe in a GOD anyway) could do it....Karma,I guess.,... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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