Guest guest Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 Heres one to which i " Know' i wont get any rational answers. But im just letting it loose for the sake of contemplation. We are all basically the spirit. When we die, unlike other souls who are lost in the cylce of life and death (Karma) we will be free (A. Hopefully B. With Shri Mataji's Grace) We will thereon proceed directly into the kingdom of god. Either that, or we cease to be individual souls and merge into the universal consciousness. I wonder then, why would it be inappropriate to interact with departed souls. I mean spirits basically? Im not gung ho about interacting with them, but its just a thought. Some SY's might even be assigned the roles of angels and guardians i presume. (Basis what mataji said about each of us having about 4 guardian angels) So these angels would normally be in the same realm as the ones in which spirits roam. Wy is an interaction inappropriate then. Why does one get terrible catches when one engages in ocultism? I repeat again, and before anyone gives me good advice to stay away from spirits, that i have no inclination to do so whatsoever. The thought however raises logical questions. Calugar...I am truly impressed both by your skepticism and by your progress since your early days. I wish you well. jagbir singh <adishakti_org wrote: > > > > > shriadishakti , " calugar22 " > <calugar22> > wrote: > > > > I was raised in a strict communist regime, where > the notion of GOD > > was banned. What is the point of telling me about > what you don't > > believe? > > > > Dear Danny, > > i was rather taken aback by this statement. If you > came from an > atheist background and upbringing how did the Divine > manifest in > you? The general belief is that Atheism and > non-belief in general > may gain strength as an increasing portion of the > world's population > lives in rich, industrialized, First World > democracies. Some facts: > > " In the last few decades atheists and others who are > radically anti- > religious have been a rapidly declining percentage > of world > population. They are now 2.5% of world population. > Agnostics and > those who are indifferent to religion are also a > somewhat more > slowly declining percentage of the world's > population, they are now > 11.5%. > > There are two factors. First, the end of Communism > in the Soviet > Union and Eastern Europe, and the loss of faith in > Communism > elsewhere, particularly China. Atheists and > non-religious people are > overwhelmingly concentrated in Communist countries. > About two thirds > of the world's atheist population is in China > alone. " > > > So how did you find out about Shri Mataji? What made > you realize She > was the Adi Shakti? the Messiah? Just want to know > what makes people > like you look for God when the trend is slowly > reversing. > > Danny, you also sent an email clarifying your past. > As you know i > did not take your 'selling' Sahaja Yoga lightly. i > thought you > became rich in the process but apparently that is > not the case. You > wrote: > > " about me in the ,,calugar in america 1,...I wrote > about ,,healing people,, and taking money from > them. That happened in the 1992,when a famous > ,,healer > from Russia,,..came to Romania and she selected 10 > people from about 5000, to work with her in a > bioenergy > center. I was then about 4 months in sahaja yoga, > and I > was in meditation when she ,,checked me out, and she > said that she never in her life has seen such > ,,big,, > field..of energy. This lady ,by the way, could see > ,and > I mean SEE the energy with her eyes. In colours. So > I > had to work with her in the clinic. For about 8 > months. Till my fingertips got like prunes, then I > quit. Please don't blame me for this. I just had to > know, and because of this or that...I know more > about > the energy fields then the average Joe...I hope you > understand me, as you are older then me with about > 18 > years.. (not that age is relevant ..the spiritual > age > is) " > > My apologies for presuming/accusing you of getting > rich curing > people. Four months is definitely insufficient to be > grounded in the > Divine Message for humanity. For all i know probably > no SY talked > about it. Maybe you just had to work with the healer > from Russia in > order to survive in America. Can't blame you for > that. > > jagbir > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 shriadishakti , Avnish Bhagat <avnishbhagat> wrote: > Heres one to which i " Know' i wont get any rational > answers. But im just letting it loose for the sake of > contemplation. > > We are all basically the spirit. ................................................... Not true,Avnish..you are the spirit and the soul.... > When we die, unlike > other souls who are lost in the cylce of life and > death (Karma) we will be free (A. Hopefully B. With > Shri Mataji's Grace) .......................................... Again,you will be free ONLY if you connect your souls with your spirit.Do you understand this?..I said souls... We will thereon proceed directly > into the kingdom of god. Either that, or we cease to > be individual souls and merge into the universal > consciousness. ..................................................... A free soul keeps his memories while emerging in the universal consciousness.Don't worry about that. > I wonder then, why would it be inappropriate to > interact with departed souls. I mean spirits > basically? ............................................ No,you mean souls basically....right? ........................................................ >Im not gung ho about interacting with them, > but its just a thought. Some SY's might even be > assigned the roles of angels and guardians i presume. ..................................................... Avnish,the angels are spiritual beings who can't incarnate on this plane..We are made to be more then the angels in the end. Because we've understood the good and the bad.And we have to choose. You see??..Look me in my eyes ,and tell me if you understand. > (Basis what mataji said about each of us having about > 4 guardian angels) So these angels would normally be > in the same realm as the ones in which spirits roam. > Wy is an interaction inappropriate then. Why does one > get terrible catches when one engages in ocultism? Avnish,I forgat to tell you there is this subconscious realm,where all the devils reside.(and the others)This is the danger... please express your love to your dear ones now.. not after they are DEAD.But then,it is such thing as death? Do NOT ever go in that realm,unless you're ready.And you never know if you're ready.I still remember one of sahaja yogi I knew,who did an ,,astral travel,,..he ended up in a horrible place,that's all I can tell you for now...Maybe now you understand how Jagbir's son could do it...he was born to do it.By the way,there is no such thing as ,,terrible catches,,as long as your attention is on the truth. > I repeat again, and before anyone gives me good advice > to stay away from spirits, that i have no inclination > to do so whatsoever. The thought however raises > logical questions. ...Good for you.Listen to my wisdom,because I was there... This is not a joke...Stay away from your left,right channels , and do the middle one.Please,Avnish,do it. > Calugar...I am truly impressed both by your skepticism > and by your progress since your early days. I wish you > well. > Avnish,thank you for kind words;)) Danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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