Sensation (Jane Pickup)

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Dear Jane,

 

Please dont get offended by Calugar. He does not

intend to abuse/insult you in any manner. His english

is not very good and when he writes he assumes he is

having a conversation with you. Unfortunately, written

communication is devoid of voice modulation and facial

expression.

 

As for your thoughts on the lack of compassion. This

is a really difficult one to explain. You'd really

have to fully understand that this is a transient

world. Absolutely everything that you see around you

is temporary/ephemeral in nature. Be it buildings, the

children you care for, solidiers in a war, your car.

Anything and everything is temporary. Even the

emotions we go through are like passing ripples with

no truth in them. To elucidate, you can look at the

numerous couples who fall so madly in love that they

are willing to die for each other. The emotion seems

so true and so deep. Yet, look at the same couple a

few years later as they tear each other apart with the

most abusive language in opposite parts of a

courtroom!

 

While not apparent initially, Sahaja Yoga aims to

slowly detach you from this temporary world. It works

slowly and surely to reveal the reality of things.

SY's do not lack compassion, they will do the same

actions that any other caring human will do, the only

thing is that they will do it without atachment and

therefore emotion. The hungry child you feed today may

well starve tomorrow. Fine, so your compassion knows

no bounds and you'll adopt him, but what can you do if

another tragedy strikes when you are not taking care?

How many will you save? And to what end? All the

people you save will die anyways, whether now or

later. IS life really so much fun that they must have

a couple of years more on planet earth? You yourself

say your life is not easy, not by far. Its time you

realised that none of our lives were easy either. We

have ALL gone through untold misery, trauma, lack of

direction, worries, grief...you name it. All of us.

But that was till we found Sahaja Yoga.

 

I can go on explaining till eternity, but I doubt you

will be able to understand. The ONLY way that you can

is through meditation, and that too Sahaja Yoga

mditation. I am well versed in lots of other energy

sciences, but trust me, they dont even touch the tip

of the iceberg. All the other ways, might give you

sensations and even temporary results, but from what i

know they are based on half truths and unverified

facts. No one has the complete knowledge. It is only

here in sahaja yoga that you will find it. It is not

in a book though and it is not on the internet. The

text might be there but it will only make sense to you

as you evolve and reach the point where you can

comprehend it.

 

I strongly recommend that you worry about nothing else

except your growth in Sahaja Yoga, you will be

surprised to see that your own life will work out so

beautifully and so will the lives of people you are

concerned about.

 

 

--- Jane Pickup <jane.pickup1 wrote:

 

> Hello Danny

>

> I only put " Hi " when I am not sure who I am

> responding to! I wonder if you see me as a very

> " superficial " sort of person? I can assure you this

> is far from the case! I assumed whist in Sahaj Yoga

> that as there was so much said about achieving

> " thoughtless awareness " and people telling me they

> had achieved it and " gone collective " and how

> blissful this was, that it must be some kind of

> desirable state to be in? Re: No one asked me to

> believe in kundalini - firstly I wasn't saying I

> didn't believe in it - just that my experience of it

> (what I assume was it - moving up within me on my

> first SY meditation) did not appear to take the

> normal SY manner of (from what people said) was

> coming out of the top of the head in the form of a

> cool breeze.I think it is unfair of you to kind of

> assume I " don't believe in anything at all " (if this

> is what you are implying?) - again I wonder if you

> think I am some kind of very superficial woman who

> has had a really easy life and is now " toying " with

> the spiritual side of things? I have had a very

> difficult life and right from being a child I have

> been questioning why I/we are here and what goes on,

> etc.

>

> This has led me to some answers. I now believe, for

> example, that third world poverty is criminal when

> we are so affluent in the West and that the arms

> trade is criminal. I can no longer just " get on with

> life " and not try to do something to protest against

> this and change things. Ideally I would pack up and

> go to work for nothing in Africa. I don't seem to be

> able to do this. So I have just been to an anti war

> group after work that is not that easy for me to get

> to and is almost depressing when we consider how few

> of us now bother to even attend, and how little

> chance we appear to have of changing things, yet one

> or two of us have some kind of faith that things

> might chance one day. If I get reprimanded for

> belonging to such a group (ie anti-war group) by

> people on this list, I shall have to leave and

> decide that I was right to have left SY and that I

> do not understand it. I don't mind accepting

> criticism as I am becoming more and more aware of

> the snares of the ego but I really don't understand

> the apparent lack of compassion I seemed to come

> across whilst attending meetings in SY and have seen

> some evidence of in this group. So, I BELIEVE in and

> am working towards, despite this appearing to be

> against all " odds " - a fair and equal and peaceful

> world, where we in the West care more about a

> child's life, health and decent education, etc, than

> our own selfish and trivial " comforts. " At the same

> time, I have to try not to feel " judgmental " and

> superior to lots of other people around me who do

> not seem to see thing like this. I also appear to

> have had some quite different experiences to some

> people in this SY discussion group - which I neither

> apologise for nor agree to dismiss as not being true

> for me - I am however prepared to accept feedback -

> even of a negative nature (as long as not abusive!)

> so that I can learn and grow!

>

> Jane P

> -

> calugar22

> shriadishakti

> Monday, January 10, 2005 3:57 PM

> [shriadishakti] Re: Sensation / Catch /

> Or Desease

>

>

>

> shriadishakti , " Jane

> Pickup "

> <jane.pickup1@b...> wrote:

> > Hi

> >

> > It would be wonderful to experience " thoughtless

> awareness " which I

> have certainly not achieved, but if Anil IS

> experiencing what I am

> experiencing (it may be quite different) this is

> nothing to do with

> " thoughts " - it is a physical process that seems

> to be going on. I

> personally find it hard to believe that the

> kundalini can just shoot

> up from the base charka and emerge out of the top

> of the head in one

> moment of " self realisation. "

>

>

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> Hi,Jane..(Unlike you,I address people by their

> names,but you just say

> Hi..to whom you say Hi?..just curious)

>

> In the first, why do you think it would be

> wonderful to experience

> ,,thoughtless awareness,,..maybe it is something

> very horrible ..how

> do you know it will be beautiful?..Please

> elaborate this subject,cas'

> I don't get it.Second,nobody asked you to believe

> in Kundalini.Did

> I?..Jane...even if I did,how can I prove

> it?..talking you under the

> table about it?..the fact that you find hard to

> believe whatever,has

> no meaning to me.It's not the point.I even didn't

> believe in GOD

> before sahaja.I was raised in a strict communist

> regime,where the

> notion of GOD was banned.What is the point of

> telling me about what

> you don't believe?...tell me in what YOU

> believe,then I could

> understand you.By the way,do you believe in

> something,or anything at

> all?..just curious.

> It comes to the ,pure desire,,...Jane.The desire

> to find the truth.The

> law of Karma proclaims that all the desires have

> to be fulfilled on

> this plane,so we might know the good and the

> bad,and make a choice.Do

> not ever tell me about what you don't

> believe...tell me in WHAT you

> believe,Jane Pickup.

> Sincerely,danny

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