Guest guest Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 > > shriadishakti , " kriptodanny " > <kriptodanny> wrote: > > > > ...1478 links to SY sites...yet none to the adishakti.org..I > > don't believe it!!! > > http://www.sahajayoga.ca/WebsitesTestimonialsInternational.htm > > danny > shriadishakti , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org> wrote: > > Who do you think are the murmuring souls who demonized my children > and wanted www.adishakti.org to be be closed by Shri Mataji? > > jagbir There is a deliberate attempt by the Canadian SYs to delete the www.adishakti.org website from their site. By this i mean the webmaster who takes care of the site also took care to remove the link to the www.adishakti.org site and replaced it with something else. Maybe it's hard to believe but the facts confirm my accusation. Here is evidence of my website at #47 (The Kingdom of God) taken from a random SY website in Russia: http://www.xs4all.nl/~akash/sycro/crosy/related_pages_list.html 45. Themeditation.org 46. Theyoga.org 47. The Kingdom Of God 48. Yoga, Muscle Relaxation May Help People Deal With the Disease 49. Yoga can help asthmatics - BBC News 50. Cancer and Clinical applications of meditation The www.adishakti.org website have always appeared as " #47. The Kingdom Of God " on SY websites since 2000. But the Canadian SYs made sure to delete it from their site and # 47 was replaced with Theyoga.org which is a dead link. Just check link below: http://www.sahajayoga.ca/WebsitesTestimonialsInternational.htm 45. Themeditation.net 46. Themeditation.org 47. Theyoga.org 48. Yoga, Muscle Relaxation May Help People Deal With the Disease 49. Yoga can help asthmatics - BBC News 50. Cancer and Clinical applications of meditation The reason the official Canadian SY website has deleted the link to www.adishakti.org is because most of them regard my family to be possessed. This happened in 1996 when the world leader Yogi Mahajan murmured into Richard Payment's ears that my children were demonic since they were able to meet Shri Mataji in the Sahasrara. Yogi Mahajan told others also of his belief, especially leaders and those in positions to influence. Some of these murmuring souls have ever since carried these rumors far and wide. Since Richard Payment is from Vancouver and in charge of the Canadian website he sees no reason to include www.adishakti.org. And we should not forget that Saugstad character, also a Vancouver SY and good friend of Richard Payment and Raj, who claimed to have heard Shri Mataji talking against my children. But when pressed for evidence this lying murmuring soul just kept quiet and refused to give that proof. He and his cronies also never took up the challenge to prove that Shri Mataji told Saugstad, or anyone else for the matter, anything negative about my children (my book, websites etc). shriadishakti/message/813 shriadishakti/message/1040 i know these murmuring souls are not going to stop. The deliberate removal of www.adishakti.org from their website is just one of the long list of dubious ways used by the priests of the Inquisytion to root out heretics from their Canadian collective. If this had been the 15th century i am sure my family would have been burnt on the stake for proclaiming that it is possible to meet Shri Mataji in the Sahasrara. Even in the 21st century we have fools who think such children are demons. What if i tell them that my children are angels and that is the reason they are able to visit the Shakti (Holy Spirit/Ruh) within themselves? If these murmuring souls want to complain to Shri Mataji about what i have just said they are more than welcome. After all, She is the one who said so and my job is just to bear witness and narrate what the Adi Shakti has revealed. Whether one believes or not what She has revealed does not matter to any of my family. Maybe now the murmuring souls will stop spreading rumours that my children are demons. Only angels can meet the Adi Shakti and all His messengers, a fact that is confirmed by both the Bible and Koran. Demons can never ever enter the Kingdom of God, within or without. Only angels and ancient liberated souls have that power. Period! jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 Man you are really angry ! Anyway why should not they cut the link to your web site ? Because you met Shri Mataji in Sahasrara, and you are a great realised soul ? Or because some SY from Canada and USA are , how you called them, murmuring souls ? Anyway if they called your kids how you said they called them (by the way what are the sources , ´ cause I supposed they did not tell you frankly that your kids are demons ?) that´s bad. Cata jagbir singh <adishakti_org wrote: > > shriadishakti , "kriptodanny" > <kriptodanny> wrote:> > > > ...1478 links to SY sites...yet none to the adishakti.org..I > > don't believe it!!!> > http://www.sahajayoga.ca/WebsitesTestimonialsInternational.htm> > danny> shriadishakti , "jagbir singh" <adishakti_org> wrote:> > Who do you think are the murmuring souls who demonized my children > and wanted www.adishakti.org to be be closed by Shri Mataji?> > jagbirThere is a deliberate attempt by the Canadian SYs to delete the www.adishakti.org website from their site. By this i mean the webmaster who takes care of the site also took care to remove the link to the www.adishakti.org site and replaced it with something else. Maybe it's hard to believe but the facts confirm my accusation.Here is evidence of my website at #47 (The Kingdom of God) taken from a random SY website in Russia:http://www.xs4all.nl/~akash/sycro/crosy/related_pages_list.html45. Themeditation.org 46. Theyoga.org 47. The Kingdom Of God 48. Yoga, Muscle Relaxation May Help People Deal With the Disease 49. Yoga can help asthmatics - BBC News 50. Cancer and Clinical applications of meditation The www.adishakti.org website have always appeared as "#47. The Kingdom Of God" on SY websites since 2000. But the Canadian SYs made sure to delete it from their site and # 47 was replaced with Theyoga.org which is a dead link. Just check link below:http://www.sahajayoga.ca/WebsitesTestimonialsInternational.htm45. Themeditation.net 46. Themeditation.org 47. Theyoga.org 48. Yoga, Muscle Relaxation May Help People Deal With the Disease 49. Yoga can help asthmatics - BBC News 50. Cancer and Clinical applications of meditation The reason the official Canadian SY website has deleted the link to www.adishakti.org is because most of them regard my family to be possessed. This happened in 1996 when the world leader Yogi Mahajan murmured into Richard Payment's ears that my children were demonic since they were able to meet Shri Mataji in the Sahasrara. Yogi Mahajan told others also of his belief, especially leaders and those in positions to influence. Some of these murmuring souls have ever since carried these rumors far and wide. Since Richard Payment is from Vancouver and in charge of the Canadian website he sees no reason to include www.adishakti.org. And we should not forget that Saugstad character, also a Vancouver SY and good friend of Richard Payment and Raj, who claimed to have heard Shri Mataji talking against my children. But when pressed for evidence this lying murmuring soul just kept quiet and refused to give that proof. He and his cronies also never took up the challenge to prove that Shri Mataji told Saugstad, or anyone else for the matter, anything negative about my children (my book, websites etc).shriadishakti/message/813shriadishakti/message/1040i know these murmuring souls are not going to stop. The deliberate removal of www.adishakti.org from their website is just one of the long list of dubious ways used by the priests of the Inquisytion to root out heretics from their Canadian collective. If this had been the 15th century i am sure my family would have been burnt on the stake for proclaiming that it is possible to meet Shri Mataji in the Sahasrara. Even in the 21st century we have fools who think such children are demons. What if i tell them that my children are angels and that is the reason they are able to visit the Shakti (Holy Spirit/Ruh) within themselves? If these murmuring souls want to complain to Shri Mataji about what i have just said they are more than welcome. After all, She is the one who said so and my job is just to bear witness and narrate what the Adi Shakti has revealed. Whether one believes or not what She has revealed does not matter to any of my family. Maybe now the murmuring souls will stop spreading rumours that my children are demons. Only angels can meet the Adi Shakti and all His messengers, a fact that is confirmed by both the Bible and Koran. Demons can never ever enter the Kingdom of God, within or without. Only angels and ancient liberated souls have that power. Period!jagbir Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 shriadishakti , Catalin Ioan <kata_lin> wrote: > Man you are really angry ! > > Anyway why should not they cut the link to your web site ? > Because you met Shri Mataji in Sahasrara, and you are a great realised soul ? > Or because some SY from Canada and USA are , how you called them, murmuring souls ? > Anyway if they called your kids how you said they called them (by the way what are the sources , ´ cause I supposed they did not tell you frankly that your kids are demons ?) that´s bad. > > > Dear Cata, Actually i am very disappointed because these people just do not understand that none of my family were interested in Sahaja Yoga or Shri Mataji in the first place. We were having our own lives, albeit a torrid one-night stand type, and kept away from spiritualism or religions because none made sense. Our children were brought up in a secular way, especially in Canada. So when my children began telling me of meeting a Divine Woman daily in meditation naturally i had to believe them and find out who this Devi was. In the end i confirmed that it was Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi. But such experiences were regarded as demonic possession by now expelled world leader Yogi Mahajan. He told me with his words when i asked him to reconsider his decision refusing to admit my children into the International School in Dharamsala. They were already in Delhi and this man just wanted to send them back to Canada. It was as if they had taken a bus from downtown Delhi. He just did not care that i spent so much money to send them from Montreal, Canada. To cut a long story short he made life miserable for them as he regarded them being possessed by demons or some evil spirits. Yogi Mahajan murmured the same into the ears of other SYs and they have since continued the Inquisytion. Yes, i have forgiven them. But i will not forget what these SYs have put my family through all these years. When some of them recede into the background fools like Alex come to the fore. Just will have to continue dealing with these characters who know as much about the Sahasrara as a mule knows about Jesus. jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Hi. All it is allwright as long you do not start evaluating others. If your way in SY it is OK you will convince by your attitude. And criticism of other people do not advantage you. I mean I do not expect a realised soul to react to any thing of this kind. Let them do their work and you just do your work and let us see for ourselves where the truth is. Regards Catajagbir singh <adishakti_org wrote: shriadishakti , Catalin Ioan <kata_lin> wrote:> Man you are really angry !> > Anyway why should not they cut the link to your web site ?> Because you met Shri Mataji in Sahasrara, and you are a great realised soul ?> Or because some SY from Canada and USA are , how you called them, murmuring souls ?> Anyway if they called your kids how you said they called them (by the way what are the sources , ´ cause I supposed they did nottell you frankly that your kids are demons ?) that´s bad.> > > Dear Cata,Actually i am very disappointed because these people just do not understand that none of my family were interested in Sahaja Yoga or Shri Mataji in the first place. We were having our own lives, albeit a torrid one-night stand type, and kept away from spiritualism or religions because none made sense. Our children were brought up in a secular way, especially in Canada.So when my children began telling me of meeting a Divine Woman daily in meditation naturally i had to believe them and find out who this Devi was. In the end i confirmed that it was Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi.But such experiences were regarded as demonic possession by now expelled world leader Yogi Mahajan. He told me with his words when i asked him to reconsider his decision refusing to admit my children into the International School in Dharamsala. They were already in Delhi and this man just wanted to send them back to Canada. It was as if they had taken a bus from downtown Delhi. He just did not care that i spent so much money to send them from Montreal, Canada.To cut a long story short he made life miserable for them as he regarded them being possessed by demons or some evil spirits. Yogi Mahajan murmured the same into the ears of other SYs and they have since continued the Inquisytion.Yes, i have forgiven them. But i will not forget what these SYs have put my family through all these years. When some of them recede into the background fools like Alex come to the fore. Just will have to continue dealing with these characters who know as much about the Sahasrara as a mule knows about Jesus.jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Dear Jagbir, That was a terrible thing to go through. It was not as if it was done to you so much, but to your children who are completely innocent. When something is done to our children, it hurts parents more than it hurts the children. You have every right to be angry about what was done to them. You need to be like a fierce protective lion, roaring to all to beware not to make the same mistake and you must continue to do this to protect the " innocence " of your children and the rest of those who will begin to experience " being in their Sahasraras " at this time of the Last Judgment and Resurrection. Others need to be warned not to criticize what they themselves have not experienced! This will be be even more applicable when many SY's start to really experience these fields of higher knowledge that Sri Mataji talks about. How will these people answer for what they have done to your family when they have to account in Heaven for their actions? The mistakes that were committed against your family really do require a formal apology from the group of individuals, maybe even from someone on behalf of them. Maybe, Sri Mataji, will see to that before she leaves in her physical body. Whatever, there is a reason for this drama; everyone can be assured of that one point. Naming the names, only makes it appear that Jagbir is angry against the individual/s themselves. However, in SY, individuals themselves have not power over you if you are your own guru and that is the case with Jagbir. However, when these indivduals spread untruth and distortion and thereby mislead others who have less spiritual understanding and wisdom that then amounts to a collective atrocity that is still having a backwash. If Jagbir really took this all " personally " , he would be a vain and bitter man, but he is not. He is using this adversity to do what he is doing on this forum and we are all helped by it in various ways, because he is not suppressing our ability to speak our own truth. . So, lets please not admonish him. He does not need it. Please let us not point out that " Jagbir, you are angry. " Considering what has happened.How would any of us dealt with this? Really! Think about that. Instead, look at the fact that Jagbir is a great yogi because he is standing up for the Truth. If Jagbir really was angry with these people, rather than with their actions, he could not be a yogi at all. The affirmation for the Agnya Chakra is " I forgive everyone and I forgive myself. " This is what yogis say; they forgive everyone. Do not let the " maya " confuse you because true yogis can and do use the instrument of " anger " against negativity to defend themselves when it is warranted. That is the case with a yogi who will stand up for the Truth, no matter what. This kind of a yogi is a True Warrior. Don't forgot, Jagbir and his family are being attacked by a group of individuals, purporting to be God's elite. This makes the " inquisition " a completely different playing field. This " playing field " or " drama " is the old recurrent drama that happens whenever a new incarnations comes; the drams of " Good " versus " Evil " . Love Violet shriadishakti , Catalin Ioan <kata_lin> wrote: > Hi. > All it is allwright as long you do not start evaluating others. > If your way in SY it is OK you will convince by your attitude. > And criticism of other people do not advantage you. > I mean I do not expect a realised soul to react to any thing of this kind. > Let them do their work and you just do your work and let us see for ourselves where the truth is. > > Regards > Cata > > jagbir singh <adishakti_org> wrote: > > > > shriadishakti , Catalin Ioan <kata_lin> > wrote: > > Man you are really angry ! > > > > Anyway why should not they cut the link to your web site ? > > Because you met Shri Mataji in Sahasrara, and you are a great > realised soul ? > > Or because some SY from Canada and USA are , how you called them, > murmuring souls ? > > Anyway if they called your kids how you said they called them (by > the way what are the sources , ´ cause I supposed they did not > tell > you frankly that your kids are demons ?) that´s bad. > > > > > > > > Dear Cata, > > Actually i am very disappointed because these people just do not > understand that none of my family were interested in Sahaja Yoga or > Shri Mataji in the first place. We were having our own lives, albeit > a torrid one-night stand type, and kept away from spiritualism or > religions because none made sense. Our children were brought up in a > secular way, especially in Canada. > > So when my children began telling me of meeting a Divine Woman daily > in meditation naturally i had to believe them and find out who this > Devi was. In the end i confirmed that it was Shri Mataji Nirmala > Devi. > > But such experiences were regarded as demonic possession by now > expelled world leader Yogi Mahajan. He told me with his words when i > asked him to reconsider his decision refusing to admit my children > into the International School in Dharamsala. They were already in > Delhi and this man just wanted to send them back to Canada. It was > as if they had taken a bus from downtown Delhi. He just did not care > that i spent so much money to send them from Montreal, Canada. > > To cut a long story short he made life miserable for them as he > regarded them being possessed by demons or some evil spirits. Yogi > Mahajan murmured the same into the ears of other SYs and they have > since continued the Inquisytion. > > Yes, i have forgiven them. But i will not forget what these SYs have > put my family through all these years. When some of them recede into > the background fools like Alex come to the fore. Just will have to > continue dealing with these characters who know as much about the > Sahasrara as a mule knows about Jesus. > > jagbir > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Dear Violet, Thank you for this very comforting post. At least i know there are SYs like you and others who can stand up and say there is a limit to things. And that really gives you strength and confidence because that is needed as Sahaja Yoga is approaching the crossroads of critical change. Once this change takes effect the Divine Message will spread as it was intended in the late 70s by Shri Mataji. Till then we must bide our time and remove the negativity and obstacles on the way. There will be opposition from the ignorant and the fearful. So it won't be an easy task. jagbir shriadishakti , " violet_tubb " <ptubb@b...> wrote: > > Dear Jagbir, > > That was a terrible thing to go through. It was not as if it was > done to you so much, but to your children who are completely > innocent. When something is done to our children, it hurts parents > more than it hurts the children. You have every right to be angry > about what was done to them. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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