Guest guest Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 Ive been around on this forum for a while, and as much as i would like to refrain from posting, considering the futlity of the exercisie, sometimes i just feel compelled to. Jagbir has been going on and on and on about criticising the present structure of shaja yoga. He oftn mocks the leaders by calling them priests and says that in effect they are carrying out their personal whims and fancies under the banner of shaja yoga. REALIZE: The entire structure of sahaja yoga has been laid down by her holines shri mataji. She is FULLY aware of what she is doing and the system she has created. It amounts to blasphemy to criticise her work. SPOT THE LIE: There is nothing wrong with the collective leaders! They are the most humble people possible. I have seen enough of them now and they are doing their duties to the best of their abilities. There is no reaon for any of us to hear unsubstaintiated criticism about them! To read and not react to such a false claim, amounts to that!! THINK: Sahaja Yoga does not lay undue importance to the subtle system. If we perfect the subtle system to the level that shri mataji wants us to, then we become like hollow flutes. Instruments in the hands of the divine, who do not decide their the course of action based on individual ego's but on the guidance of divine power! CATCHES AND CURES: Is discussing catches and cures wrong??? This is a very critical part of sahaja yoga!!! Ask someone with a painful agnya catch to just chill and know it is the last judgement, he will kick you so hard in the backside! Only if we get to know what we are doing wrong can we correct it. Mother kundalini is all powerful agreed, but she cannot help us if we are doing wrong to ourselves!! MY EXPERIENCE: When i came to this website/group initially, i asked around if anyone knew why the sides of my head suddenly pain when i say or think of certain things! Jagbir made fun of me and pulled balwinder into the discussin and said it must be a pimple in my brain!!! Every newcomer goes through what i went through. It is simply that the ego and supergo baloons on either side of the brain that cause that pain. Once we let go of both of these then the kundalini can pass through easily and the pain subsides! I got this from the collective. NOT FROM THIS FORUM! THE LAST JUDGEMENT!!!!!!!!! Jagbir goes on shifting the focus from keeping our subtle bodies in a condition that they would be useful to the divine, to......THE LAST JUDGEMENT!! I think we have seen enough madmen around the world walking around with banners saying that the world is coming to an end!! I havent seen anyone become a wee bit more moral, generous or loving after being told about this!! Imagine a scenario, A SY walks into the corporate of office of Intel and says ' Ladies and gentlemen, this photograph here is of shri mataji nirmala devi. For the last 30 years she has been saying that this is the last judgement. So, please come to sahaja yoga' What reaction do you expect? That the security guards boot you out or that the whole accounts team stands up and says 'OH DAMN, how much time do we have!? chuck this $4000 bribe i was getting for clearing payments quickly and lets zoom to the nearest SY centre!!! The ways an means in which SY is being discussed and spread is based on the research done by her holiness shri matahi nirmala devi and i would very much follow what she says!! A FINAL WORD If www.adishakti.org is sanction by mataji, then when not scan and upload a little handwritten note from her, approvong this site??? It might add credibility to the stories of children flying around in outer space! --- jagbir singh <adishakti_org wrote: > > > > > shriadishakti , > " kriptodanny " > > <kriptodanny> wrote: > > > > > > ...1478 links to SY sites...yet none to the > adishakti.org..I > > > don't believe it!!! > > > > http://www.sahajayoga.ca/WebsitesTestimonialsInternational.htm > > > danny > > > shriadishakti , " jagbir singh " > > <adishakti_org> wrote: > > > > Who do you think are the murmuring souls who > demonized my children > > and wanted www.adishakti.org to be be closed by > Shri Mataji? > > > > jagbir > > > There is a deliberate attempt by the Canadian SYs to > delete the > www.adishakti.org website from their site. By this i > mean the > webmaster who takes care of the site also took care > to remove the > link to the www.adishakti.org site and replaced it > with something > else. Maybe it's hard to believe but the facts > confirm my accusation. > > Here is evidence of my website at #47 (The Kingdom > of God) taken > from a random SY website in Russia: > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~akash/sycro/crosy/related_pages_list.html > > 45. Themeditation.org > > 46. Theyoga.org > > 47. The Kingdom Of God > > 48. Yoga, Muscle Relaxation May Help People Deal > With the Disease > > 49. Yoga can help asthmatics - BBC News > > 50. Cancer and Clinical applications of meditation > > > The www.adishakti.org website have always appeared > as " #47. The > Kingdom Of God " on SY websites since 2000. But the > Canadian SYs made > sure to delete it from their site and # 47 was > replaced with > Theyoga.org which is a dead link. Just check link > below: > > > http://www.sahajayoga.ca/WebsitesTestimonialsInternational.htm > > 45. Themeditation.net > > 46. Themeditation.org > > 47. Theyoga.org > > 48. Yoga, Muscle Relaxation May Help People Deal > With the Disease > > 49. Yoga can help asthmatics - BBC News > > 50. Cancer and Clinical applications of meditation > > > The reason the official Canadian SY website has > deleted the link to > www.adishakti.org is because most of them regard my > family to be > possessed. This happened in 1996 when the world > leader Yogi Mahajan > murmured into Richard Payment's ears that my > children were demonic > since they were able to meet Shri Mataji in the > Sahasrara. Yogi > Mahajan told others also of his belief, especially > leaders and those > in positions to influence. Some of these murmuring > souls have ever > since carried these rumors far and wide. Since > Richard Payment is > from Vancouver and in charge of the Canadian website > he sees no > reason to include www.adishakti.org. > > And we should not forget that Saugstad character, > also a Vancouver > SY and good friend of Richard Payment and Raj, who > claimed to have > heard Shri Mataji talking against my children. But > when pressed for > evidence this lying murmuring soul just kept quiet > and refused to > give that proof. He and his cronies also never took > up the challenge > to prove that Shri Mataji told Saugstad, or anyone > else for the > matter, anything negative about my children (my > book, websites etc). > > shriadishakti/message/813 > shriadishakti/message/1040 > > i know these murmuring souls are not going to stop. > The deliberate > removal of www.adishakti.org from their website is > just one of the > long list of dubious ways used by the priests of the > Inquisytion to > root out heretics from their Canadian collective. If > this had been > the 15th century i am sure my family would have been > burnt on the > stake for proclaiming that it is possible to meet > Shri Mataji in the > Sahasrara. Even in the 21st century we have fools > who think such > children are demons. > > What if i tell them that my children are angels and > that is the > reason they are able to visit the Shakti (Holy > Spirit/Ruh) within > themselves? If these murmuring souls want to > complain to Shri Mataji > about what i have just said they are more than > welcome. After all, > She is the one who said so and my job is just to > bear witness and > narrate what the Adi Shakti has revealed. Whether > one believes or > not what She has revealed does not matter to any of > my family. > > Maybe now the murmuring souls will stop spreading > rumours that my > children are demons. Only angels can meet the Adi > Shakti and all His > messengers, a fact that is confirmed by both the > Bible and Koran. > Demons can never ever enter the Kingdom of God, > within or without. > Only angels and ancient liberated souls have that > power. Period! > > jagbir > > > > > > > > > > Mail - You care about security. So do we. 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