Guest guest Posted February 5, 2005 Report Share Posted February 5, 2005 Hi, Alex, Alex wrote;'Ive been around on this forum for a while, and as much as i would like to refrain from posting, considering the futlity of the exercisie, sometimes i just feel compelled to. Jagbir has been going on and on and on about criticising the present structure of shaja yoga. He oftn mocks the leaders by calling them priests and says that in effect they are carrying out their personal whims and fancies under the banner of shaja yoga. REALIZE: The entire structure of sahaja yoga has been laid down by her holines shri mataji. She is FULLY aware of what she is doing and the system she has created. It amounts to blasphemy to criticise her work. SPOT THE LIE: There is nothing wrong with the collective leaders! They are the most humble people possible. I have seen enough of them now and they are doing their duties to the best of their abilities. There is no reaon for any of us to hear unsubstaintiated criticism about them! To read and not react to such a false claim, amounts to that!! Semira; Honesty about promoting SY has been a much discussed point. Are you saying, therefore, that SY should continue to be promoted as it is being promoted officially now; a relaxation technique to feel good? Do you mean that the Divine message must be kept hidden, and people cheated into joining SY? As you say Shri Mataji is FULLY AWARE of what She is doing; She is therefore aware of the adishakti site and of this forum. She is surely also aware of the content of Her speeches, upon which the adishakti site is based. I only managed to find out about the Divine message from this forum and the adishakti site. Strangely enough, the ex-SYs do not mention the Divine message either. People seem to focus on a small aspect of SY and concentrate on this aspect to prove a point, and to misrepresent the issue. I wonder why? Is HONESTY such a difficult thing for everybody? Alex wrote;THINK: Sahaja Yoga does not lay undue importance to the subtle system. If we perfect the subtle system to the level that shri mataji wants us to, then we become like hollow flutes. Instruments in the hands of the divine, who do not decide their the course of action based on individual ego's but on the guidance of divine power! CATCHES AND CURES: Is discussing catches and cures wrong??? This is a very critical part of sahaja yoga!!! Ask someone with a painful agnya catch to just chill and know it is the last judgement, he will kick you so hard in the backside! Only if we get to know what we are doing wrong can we correct it. Mother kundalini is all powerful agreed, but she cannot help us if we are doing wrong to ourselves!! MY EXPERIENCE: When i came to this website/group initially, i asked around if anyone knew why the sides of my head suddenly pain when i say or think of certain things! Jagbir made fun of me and pulled balwinder into the discussin and said it must be a pimple in my brain!!! Every newcomer goes through what i went through. It is simply that the ego and supergo baloons on either side of the brain that cause that pain. Once we let go of both of these then the kundalini can pass through easily and the pain subsides! I got this from the collective. NOT FROM THIS FORUM!!! Semira; If you make fun of others, then you should expect to be made fun of yourself. I think you enjoy making fun of others. Alex wrote;THE LAST JUDGEMENT!!!!!!!!! Jagbir goes on shifting the focus from keeping our subtle bodies in a condition that they would be useful to the divine, to......THE LAST JUDGEMENT!! I think we have seen enough madmen around the world walking around with banners saying that the world is coming to an end!! I havent seen anyone become a wee bit more moral, generous or loving after being told about this!! Imagine a scenario, A SY walks into the corporate of office of Intel and says ' Ladies and gentlemen, this photograph here is of shri mataji nirmala devi. For the last 30 years she has been saying that this is the last judgement. So, please come to sahaja yoga' What reaction do you expect? That the security guards boot you out or that the whole accounts team stands up and says 'OH DAMN, how much time do we have!? chuck this $4000 bribe i was getting for clearing payments quickly and lets zoom to the nearest SY centre!!! The ways an means in which SY is being discussed and spread is based on the research done by her holiness shri matahi nirmala devi and i would very much follow what she says!! Semira; So you therefore think that the Divine message is unbelievable and that everyone who hears it will make fun of it? There are those who are ready to accept the Truth and who will understand it and not laugh. Is SY about the Divine message, or isn't it? Alex wrote;A FINAL WORD If www.adishakti.org is sanction by mataji, then when not scan and upload a little handwritten note from her, approvong this site??? It might add credibility to the stories of children flying around in outer space! Semira; What you choose to believe is up to you, Alex. What you find unbelievable, others are able to accept. If telling the Truth and standing up for your beliefs means being laughed at and ridiculed, that is how it is. There are however also those who want to hear and understand the Truth. Regards, Semira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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