Jagbir's children are not the only one in the world to have visited Shri Mataji

[Guest guest]

Dear Anuj,

 

Thank you so much for this post that there are others who have met

Shri Mataji in the Sahasrara. You have no idea how much this

confirmation comforts me. i have struggled for years to obtain such

evidence because i do not want to make my children special, extra

blessed, above others, or whatever. At least now i can rest easy

because others too have had the same ability. Thank you again for

bearing witness to the fact that the Adi Shakti resides in our

Sahasraras, and has been witnessed by those in deep meditation.

 

Surely in future we will hear other SYs or their children confirming

the same. And i will more than welcome them since all these people

strengthen our faith and deepen our conviction that Shri Mataji is

indeed the Adi Shakti. Why should these great souls able to witness

Her be subject to abuse and ridicule?

 

my pranaam bhaiya,

 

jagbir

 

 

shriadishakti , " anujg_iitd " <anujg_iitd>

wrote:

>

> Alex,

>

> I didnt say you said that Sahaja Yogis are have nots. I said that

you said people on this forum are kind of have-nots. I refer to

message 2729 posted by you. Clearly whatever you said in that

message was not positive about people on this forum.

>

> Anyway, I am not going to argue about this particular point

anymore. But I do have to say this:

>

> Jagbir's children are not the only one in the world to have

visited Shri Mataji in the sahasrar. There are two cousins of mine

who briefly did SY when they were very young and they recounted

seeing Shri Mataji in sahasrar. They also saw Shri Ganesha. This was

all at a time when I didnt access internet so when I saw

adishakti.org for the first time, I was not surprised because I had

seen this happen before, although not in the same detail.

>

> Also, there is a very elderly Sahaja Yogi (I am not too sure about

> his name and his location but I can find out) who used to see

Shri Mataji when he meditates. He has a whole book written about his

> experiences which unfortunately never got published. I think that

now maybe is the time to bring that book to the fore and get it

> published. In that book he has some pretty startling revelations

> which even Shri Mataji never told sahajis.

>

> Alex, what do you believe what will happen when a sahaja yogi

dies? Surely I am interested in that answer because I dont have the

> foggiest idea. Although one bhajan does state that after coming to

> Sahaja, a person gets out of the life-death cycle.

>

> Alex, if you remember when Shri Mataji started Sahaja in UK, she

> worked on a few hippies for a few years to get them established.

If you have read " The Advent " you will recall that Shri Mataji had

> spent a lot of time on Mr. Gregoire. When Shri Mataji used to give

> realization herself, in the initial phases there used to be a camp

> kind of arrangement where people would stay for 2-3 days and get

most out of the experience. What is happening today in the public

programs that local collectives organize? Its usually over under 2

hours and then they ask people to come to the center for follow up.

Most people who got the vibrations almost never come. So the point I

am trying to make is, maybe just 2 hours of public program is

insufficient. Maybe what we need is some 2-3 days of camp where

people can learn more as there will be more personalized and

intensive contact with the Sahajis. There is one camp like that

which happens every year in Haridwar in India but clearly we need

more of efforts like these. If the current method is fine, they why

is the growth of Sahaja yoga so stagnant in the west and very slow

in countries like India?

>

> Again, whatever Kash or Arwinder say they saw in the Sahasrar may

> appear to be preposterous/wierd or even beyond belief but let me

ask everybody this- wasnt Sahaja Yoga beyond belief when we all

first came in? Wasnt the whole premise of getting connected with

Divine fantastic? How come we then started to believe in it?

Because with Shri Mataji's grace we could indeed raise our state and

expand our consciousness. Then why do we find it wierd to believe

what Kash has to say. Maybe years down the line we will believe in

that because our state will become elevated to that point.

>

> Nobody denies the importance of subtle system . Initially to get

in balance, many people require it. but being obssessed with it is a

> problem. I have seen some sahajis who keep on doing shoe beating

and foot soaking for their agya catch whence they should realize

that problem is with their ego and/or inadequate surrender to Shri

Mataji. Many people do catch treatment mechanically feeling they

would be cured while the problem lies within the heart and

surrender.

>

> I hope you understand the crux of what I am trying to say.

>

> cheers

> anuj

>

[Guest guest]

Jai Shree Mata JI,

Dear SY Brothers and Sisters,

Without getting into any debate or discussions on the

rights and wrongs here I just wish to corroborate the

inputs by Jagbir and Anuj.

I have a SY colleague who came into Sahaj about two

years back but got very serious about meditation and

other aspects related to it just about one year ago.He

does not have much knowledge about Sahaj.But one thing

he has achieved is being able to attain a complete

state of Nirvichar for as much as 30 mins also. Most

important of all please note the following:

1.HE HAS NEVER ATTENDED ANY COLLECTIVITY.

2.HE REGULARLY MEETS SHREE MATA JI IN THE

SAHASRAR,EVERY TIME HE SITS IN MEDITATION GENERALLY

DURING EVENING SESSIONS.

3.HE HAS BEEN MADE TO PERFORM PUJA ON THE SHIVALINGA

IN THE SAHASRAR ALMOST DAILY BY SHREE MATA JI.

4.HE HAS MET SHREE SHIVA, SHREE PARVATI AND SHREE

GANESHA IN THE SAHASRAR.

5.SHREE MATA JI HAS EVEN TAKEN HIM TO MEET THE LORD

ALMIGHTY SHREE SHIVA ON COUPLE OF OCASSIONS.

There are so many things happening to him which none

of us have ever heard of and cannot be described here.

I have been just two years into Sahaj and try to

attend collectivity as often as is possible but have

realised among other things that the mannerisms of

the leaders and other important office bearers leave

much to be desired.

Had it not been for my utmost faith in Shree Mataji

and the experiences She Herself gave to me I would

have walked out of Sahaj. It is for the same reason I

have never coerced my friend and colleague to attend

collectivity.

This mail is intended to put to rest that the

experiences Kash and Arvinder have had are not mere

figments of imagination. I am sure there would be

others as well who would have had similar experiences

but would like to keep these to themselves. Like this

friend of mine he does not even want to be identified

leave alone the public declaration of his experiences.

 

I have been a witness to this pointless debate which

has been raised time and again in the forum and feel

that there are some SYs like the ones in

collectivities who somehow enjoy castigating others

just for the sake of it.

Let us all enjoy the blessings of Shree Mata Ji and

respect each other as Brothers and Sisters in SY and

work towards promoting SY and not scaring people away.

 

Jai Shree Mata Ji.

Satish

 

--- jagbir singh <adishakti_org wrote:

 

>

>

>

> Dear Anuj,

>

> Thank you so much for this post that there are

> others who have met

> Shri Mataji in the Sahasrara. You have no idea how

> much this

> confirmation comforts me. i have struggled for years

> to obtain such

> evidence because i do not want to make my children

> special, extra

> blessed, above others, or whatever. At least now i

> can rest easy

> because others too have had the same ability. Thank

> you again for

> bearing witness to the fact that the Adi Shakti

> resides in our

> Sahasraras, and has been witnessed by those in deep

> meditation.

>

> Surely in future we will hear other SYs or their

> children confirming

> the same. And i will more than welcome them since

> all these people

> strengthen our faith and deepen our conviction that

> Shri Mataji is

> indeed the Adi Shakti. Why should these great souls

> able to witness

> Her be subject to abuse and ridicule?

>

> my pranaam bhaiya,

>

> jagbir

>

>

> shriadishakti , " anujg_iitd "

> <anujg_iitd>

> wrote:

> >

> > Alex,

> >

> > I didnt say you said that Sahaja Yogis are have

> nots. I said that

> you said people on this forum are kind of have-nots.

> I refer to

> message 2729 posted by you. Clearly whatever you

> said in that

> message was not positive about people on this forum.

>

> >

> > Anyway, I am not going to argue about this

> particular point

> anymore. But I do have to say this:

> >

> > Jagbir's children are not the only one in the

> world to have

> visited Shri Mataji in the sahasrar. There are two

> cousins of mine

> who briefly did SY when they were very young and

> they recounted

> seeing Shri Mataji in sahasrar. They also saw Shri

> Ganesha. This was

> all at a time when I didnt access internet so when I

> saw

> adishakti.org for the first time, I was not

> surprised because I had

> seen this happen before, although not in the same

> detail.

> >

> > Also, there is a very elderly Sahaja Yogi (I am

> not too sure about

> > his name and his location but I can find out) who

> used to see

> Shri Mataji when he meditates. He has a whole book

> written about his

> > experiences which unfortunately never got

> published. I think that

> now maybe is the time to bring that book to the fore

> and get it

> > published. In that book he has some pretty

> startling revelations

> > which even Shri Mataji never told sahajis.

> >

> > Alex, what do you believe what will happen when a

> sahaja yogi

> dies? Surely I am interested in that answer because

> I dont have the

> > foggiest idea. Although one bhajan does state that

> after coming to

> > Sahaja, a person gets out of the life-death cycle.

>

> >

> > Alex, if you remember when Shri Mataji started

> Sahaja in UK, she

> > worked on a few hippies for a few years to get

> them established.

> If you have read " The Advent " you will recall that

> Shri Mataji had

> > spent a lot of time on Mr. Gregoire. When Shri

> Mataji used to give

> > realization herself, in the initial phases there

> used to be a camp

> > kind of arrangement where people would stay for

> 2-3 days and get

> most out of the experience. What is happening today

> in the public

> programs that local collectives organize? Its

> usually over under 2

> hours and then they ask people to come to the center

> for follow up.

> Most people who got the vibrations almost never

> come. So the point I

> am trying to make is, maybe just 2 hours of public

> program is

> insufficient. Maybe what we need is some 2-3 days of

> camp where

> people can learn more as there will be more

> personalized and

> intensive contact with the Sahajis. There is one

> camp like that

> which happens every year in Haridwar in India but

> clearly we need

> more of efforts like these. If the current method is

> fine, they why

> is the growth of Sahaja yoga so stagnant in the west

> and very slow

> in countries like India?

> >

> > Again, whatever Kash or Arwinder say they saw in

> the Sahasrar may

> > appear to be preposterous/wierd or even beyond

> belief but let me

> ask everybody this- wasnt Sahaja Yoga beyond belief

> when we all

> first came in? Wasnt the whole premise of getting

> connected with

> Divine fantastic? How come we then started to

> believe in it?

> Because with Shri Mataji's grace we could indeed

> raise our state and

> expand our consciousness. Then why do we find it

> wierd to believe

> what Kash has to say. Maybe years down the line we

> will believe in

> that because our state will become elevated to that

> point.

> >

> > Nobody denies the importance of subtle system .

> Initially to get

> in balance, many people require it. but being

> obssessed with it is a

> > problem. I have seen some sahajis who keep on

> doing shoe beating

> and foot soaking for their agya catch whence they

> should realize

> that problem is with their ego and/or inadequate

> surrender to Shri

> Mataji. Many people do catch treatment mechanically

> feeling they

> would be cured while the problem lies within the

> heart and

> surrender.

> >

> > I hope you understand the crux of what I am trying

> to say.

> >

> > cheers

> > anuj

> >

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

--- jagbir singh <adishakti_org wrote:

 

>

>

>

> Dear Anuj,

>

> Thank you so much for this post that there are

> others who have met

> Shri Mataji in the Sahasrara. You have no idea how

> much this

> confirmation comforts me. i have struggled for years

> to obtain such

> evidence because i do not want to make my children

> special, extra

> blessed, above others, or whatever.

 

 

 

Alex,

 

Jagbir and Anuj

 

My aunt walk on water. Often when shes bored she walks

across the ocean from Kanyakumari to Sri Lanka. I

think its about 22 Nautical miles. She jogs most of

the time because the scenery is static.

 

 

DOES THIS COUNT AS EVIDENCE OF PEOPLE WALKING ON

WATER.????????????

 

 

Anuj's claim is unsubstaintiated. Hear say is not

counted. Can you prove this.???

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mail - You care about security. So do we.

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Satish,

 

My pranaam to this even more inspiring post. i am asking you in a

very humble and blissful way why you did not post this before? Why

should you keep quiet about the very facts that add up to the

evidence that Shri Mataji is indeed the Adi Shakti? We need such

verifications of the truth. Even Shri Mataji has told that it is up

to us to prove She is that:

 

" I am the Adi Shakti. I am the One who has come on this Earth for

the first time in this form to do this tremendous task . The more

you understand this the better it would be. You will change

tremendously.

 

I knew I'll have to say that openly one day and we have said it.

But now it is you people who have to prove it that I am that! "

 

Shri Adi-Shakti Devi

Sydney, Aust. — March 21, 1983

(Adi-Shakti [615th]: Primal Power; being the First Cause.)

 

 

But thank you Satish bhaiya for at least posting it. If you were

right in front of me now i would have given you a huge hug of joy

and uttered a thunderous " Jai Shri Mataji! "

 

Those SYs with wisdom and vision will realize the immensity of what

Satish has just told us. i will not discuss what i see but will

bring out the truths revealed at the appropriate time.

 

Maybe today i will blow the conch after a long absence. To all my

brothers and sisters here i assure that the Adi Shakti will work out

Her incarnation of Earth and the Divine Message for humanity through

all of us. The Truth presented by Anuj and Satish bhaiya have given

us the Divine Nectar. All the bhaktas of the Shakti should know they

also can advance and meet the Golden Goddess in their sahasraras.

And we must defend the Truth at all times by having a clear mind to

destroy the negativity as and when it arises.

 

Jai Shri Mataji,

 

 

jagbir

 

 

 

shriadishakti , Satish Shukla <saap7>

wrote:

>

> Jai Shree Mata JI,

>

> Dear SY Brothers and Sisters,

>

> Without getting into any debate or discussions on the

> rights and wrongs here I just wish to corroborate the

> inputs by Jagbir and Anuj.

>

> I have a SY colleague who came into Sahaj about two

> years back but got very serious about meditation and

> other aspects related to it just about one year ago.He

> does not have much knowledge about Sahaj.But one thing

> he has achieved is being able to attain a complete

> state of Nirvichar for as much as 30 mins also. Most

> important of all please note the following:

>

> 1.HE HAS NEVER ATTENDED ANY COLLECTIVITY.

>

> 2.HE REGULARLY MEETS SHREE MATA JI IN THE

> SAHASRAR,EVERY TIME HE SITS IN MEDITATION GENERALLY

> DURING EVENING SESSIONS.

>

> 3.HE HAS BEEN MADE TO PERFORM PUJA ON THE SHIVALINGA

> IN THE SAHASRAR ALMOST DAILY BY SHREE MATA JI.

>

> 4.HE HAS MET SHREE SHIVA, SHREE PARVATI AND SHREE

> GANESHA IN THE SAHASRAR.

>

> 5.SHREE MATA JI HAS EVEN TAKEN HIM TO MEET THE LORD

> ALMIGHTY SHREE SHIVA ON COUPLE OF OCASSIONS.

>

> There are so many things happening to him which none

> of us have ever heard of and cannot be described here.

> I have been just two years into Sahaj and try to

> attend collectivity as often as is possible but have

> realised among other things that the mannerisms of

> the leaders and other important office bearers leave

> much to be desired.

>

> Had it not been for my utmost faith in Shree Mataji

> and the experiences She Herself gave to me I would

> have walked out of Sahaj. It is for the same reason I

> have never coerced my friend and colleague to attend

> collectivity.

>

> This mail is intended to put to rest that the

> experiences Kash and Arvinder have had are not mere

> figments of imagination. I am sure there would be

> others as well who would have had similar experiences

> but would like to keep these to themselves. Like this

> friend of mine he does not even want to be identified

> leave alone the public declaration of his experiences.

>

> I have been a witness to this pointless debate which

> has been raised time and again in the forum and feel

> that there are some SYs like the ones in

> collectivities who somehow enjoy castigating others

> just for the sake of it.

>

> Let us all enjoy the blessings of Shree Mata Ji and

> respect each other as Brothers and Sisters in SY and

> work towards promoting SY and not scaring people away.

>

> Jai Shree Mata Ji.

> Satish

>

[Guest guest]

Alex,

 

I am sure the best way to substantiate claims made on this forum,

especially the ones of anuj and others in regards to visiting shri

mataji among other deities in the kingdom of god, is to check their

vibrations. As far as I know, vibratory awareness is very important

to use and is especially important in order to tell the difference

between what is the truth and what are lies. Why not check their

vibrations and get your answers there. If those vibrations are still

colored by doubt, then meditating to clear oneself of such doubt is

probably the only solution left.

 

Kyyan

 

 

 

shriadishakti , alex arthur <dude11976>

wrote:

>

> --- jagbir singh <adishakti_org> wrote:

>

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Anuj,

> >

> > Thank you so much for this post that there are

> > others who have met

> > Shri Mataji in the Sahasrara. You have no idea how

> > much this

> > confirmation comforts me. i have struggled for years

> > to obtain such

> > evidence because i do not want to make my children

> > special, extra

> > blessed, above others, or whatever.

>

>

>

> Alex,

>

> Jagbir and Anuj

>

> My aunt walk on water. Often when shes bored she walks

> across the ocean from Kanyakumari to Sri Lanka. I

> think its about 22 Nautical miles. She jogs most of

> the time because the scenery is static.

>

>

> DOES THIS COUNT AS EVIDENCE OF PEOPLE WALKING ON

> WATER.????????????

>

>

> Anuj's claim is unsubstaintiated. Hear say is not

> counted. Can you prove this.???

>

>

>

>

 

>

> Mail - You care about security. So do we.

>