Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 JAGBIR _ PLEASE DONT GET ANGRY> I WANT TO BELIEVE YOU< I REALLY DO>>I JUST DONT WANT TO END UP IN AN ASYLUM AT THE SAME TIME THAT HAPPENS JAGBIR< ANUJ< MR SHUKLA< PLEASE CONTACT YOur friends/cousins/relatives and get the answers to these questions...it WILL BE A LEARNING FOR ALL OF US Just throught that instead of talking about things we cant subtantiate, we should focus only on these questions. 1)Mataji right from the 70's has been saying (this is documented) that 'I am the destination' 2)She has time and again said, 'You are like cells in my body....all of you'...Im sure you dont think it is the physical body she was reffering to. Then how is kash, seperate from her in the spiritual realm that Jagbir claims his kids visit. How are all the gods and goddesses outside her, even there? 3)Again, in her last speech in 2004 she clearly and emphatically said 'I do not see the difference between you and adishakti, they are the same' She further insisted that this speech be distributed immediately worldwide. 4)Mataji told Jagbir, by his own admission, to leave the work he had submitted to her. He pasted a note saying she had said 'TO LEAVE IT TO HER'. Jagbir has not left it to her. he continues to promote the site. Thereby diobeying the adishakti. 5) When we all know that the dieties exist inside us, and also inside the virat, then where are the seperate identities coming from. The are all created by the adishakti and exist inside her. 6)Again if someone is describing the insides of the sahasrar, why has shri mataji not explained this herself. Never has she mentioned that there is any such place. No sahaja yogi has ever come forward to descibe the experience either. I am sure you will agree there are many yogis who have gone past nirvikalpa also....and transcended the four chakras beyond the sahasrar. 7)Does it not seem ridiculous to you that all the divine beings are sitting around with human bodies even in Heaven (Er..thats heaven right where Kash and Arvinder go?) Ever wondered if that what Kash and Arvinder see are real then where do they get their clothes from, who stitches them? Do they have a tailor, a hairdresser? Shri Ram for sure has footwear, so is there an Adidas store in that realm? ok, he wears sandals, a poor joke on my part. But he's still need a cobbler. A forest to get wood from....what are heavenly forests like? Human bodies require food. Who cooks? 8)Why is it only Jagbirs kids get an audience in front of shri Mataji? Where are all the devis and devtas...35 crore of them. Where are the other advanced sahaja yogis, do they get a seperate audience in another realm of space? 9)As for why Shri MAtaji has not done anything about Jagbirs site....well....she told him to leave it. He did not listen. Now the SY sites dontlink to this fantasy land...what more do you want her to do?? She knows some seekers wil get misled. But thats the way it has to be. 10) Kash and Arinders visits are the basis of this entire website. To say it is the last judgement that is spoken of, is just a selling point. Sahaja Yoga does not hide the FACT of the last judgement. In fact as soon as you join SY, one of the first few tapes you will find speaks clearly of THE LAST JUDGEMENT. Where is the secret. 11)The techniques of spreading sahaja yoga have been laid down by mataji, all of us do just that. And it is effective. 12)If you think subtle system is not so important, then my dear brothers and sisters please meditate onthe fact that even during the last judgement, the ones who will not be saved are the ones who have not perfected their subtle system and thereby attained nirvikalpa. Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Dear Brother, Please let us know about the 4 chakras beyond the Sahasrara. Love Ashish ====================================================== I am sure you will agree there are many yogis who have gone past nirvikalpa also....and transcended the four chakras beyond the sahasrar. > All your favorites on one personal page – Try My Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 jai shri mataji ! Alex, As u may know sahajayoga doesn't mean for any argument. If u have any doubt about Mr.Jagbir, his chidren, Anuj, Mr. Shukla or aynone else or their views to spread sahaja.........then why don't u check their truthness on VIBRATIONS ?????? JAGBIR _ PLEASE DONT GET ANGRY> I WANT TO BELIEVE YOU<I REALLY DO>>I JUST DONT WANT TO END UP IN AN ASYLUMAT THE SAME TIME THAT HAPPENSJAGBIR< ANUJ< MR SHUKLA< PLEASE CONTACT YOurfriends/cousins/relatives and get the answers to thesequestions...it WILL BE A LEARNING FOR ALL OF USJust throught that instead of talking about things wecant subtantiate, we should focus only on thesequestions.1)Mataji right from the 70's has been saying (this isdocumented) that 'I am the destination'2)She has time and again said, 'You are like cells inmy body....all of you'...Im sure you dont think it isthe physical body she was reffering to. Then how iskash, seperate from her in the spiritual realm thatJagbir claims his kids visit. How are all the gods andgoddesses outside her, even there?3)Again, in her last speech in 2004 she clearly andemphatically said 'I do not see the difference betweenyou and adishakti, they are the same' She furtherinsisted that this speech be distributed immediatelyworldwide.4)Mataji told Jagbir, by his own admission, to leavethe work he had submitted to her. He pasted a notesaying she had said 'TO LEAVE IT TO HER'. Jagbir hasnot left it to her. he continues to promote the site.Thereby diobeying the adishakti.5) When we all know that the dieties exist inside us,and also inside the virat, then where are the seperateidentities coming from. The are all created by theadishakti and exist inside her. 6)Again if someone is describing the insides of thesahasrar, why has shri mataji not explained thisherself. Never has she mentioned that there is anysuch place. No sahaja yogi has ever come forward todescibe the experience either. I am sure you willagree there are many yogis who have gone pastnirvikalpa also....and transcended the four chakrasbeyond the sahasrar.7)Does it not seem ridiculous to you that all thedivine beings are sitting around with human bodieseven in Heaven (Er..thats heaven right where Kash andArvinder go?)Ever wondered if that what Kash and Arvinder see arereal then where do they get their clothes from, whostitches them? Do they have a tailor, a hairdresser?Shri Ram for sure has footwear, so is there an Adidasstore in that realm? ok, he wears sandals, a poor jokeon my part. But he's still need a cobbler. A forest toget wood from....what are heavenly forests like? Humanbodies require food. Who cooks?8)Why is it only Jagbirs kids get an audience in frontof shri Mataji? Where are all the devis anddevtas...35 crore of them. Where are the otheradvanced sahaja yogis, do they get a seperate audiencein another realm of space?9)As for why Shri MAtaji has not done anything aboutJagbirs site....well....she told him to leave it. Hedid not listen. Now the SY sites dontlink to thisfantasy land...what more do you want her to do?? Sheknows some seekers wil get misled. But thats the wayit has to be.10) Kash and Arinders visits are the basis of thisentire website. To say it is the last judgement thatis spoken of, is just a selling point. Sahaja Yogadoes not hide the FACT of the last judgement. In factas soon as you join SY, one of the first few tapes youwill find speaks clearly of THE LAST JUDGEMENT. Whereis the secret.11)The techniques of spreading sahaja yoga have beenlaid down by mataji, all of us do just that. And it iseffective.12)If you think subtle system is not so important,then my dear brothers and sisters please meditateonthe fact that even during the last judgement, theones who will not be saved are the ones who have notperfected their subtle system and thereby attainednirvikalpa. Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2005 Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 Alex, If you have seen some miracle photographs in which Shri Ganesha, Lord Hanumana, Mother Mary and Lord Jesus have appeared then perhaps you should question those photographs also. Because if these photographs are of Chaitanya then how come we are able to see them and not Shri Adishakti? Why has Shri Adishakti let Lord Ganesha to be visible apart from her in those photographs? I really want to know what is it you believe in? If you believe that I am lying why dont you check it for yourself through vibrations? Why is it that you are trying to find out reason for everything that you cant imagine happened or believe possible? Perhaps its your belief which is in question or you are not letting your intellect believe that its possible. I really want to understand what it is that bothers you as all these questions seem to be outward manifestation of some inner conflict. regards, anuj shriadishakti , alex arthur <dude11976> wrote: > JAGBIR _ PLEASE DONT GET ANGRY> I WANT TO BELIEVE YOU< > I REALLY DO>>I JUST DONT WANT TO END UP IN AN ASYLUM > AT THE SAME TIME THAT HAPPENS > > > JAGBIR< ANUJ< MR SHUKLA< PLEASE CONTACT YOur > friends/cousins/relatives and get the answers to these > questions...it WILL BE A LEARNING FOR ALL OF US > > > Just throught that instead of talking about things we > cant subtantiate, we should focus only on these > questions. > > 1)Mataji right from the 70's has been saying (this is > documented) that 'I am the destination' > > 2)She has time and again said, 'You are like cells in > my body....all of you'...Im sure you dont think it is > the physical body she was reffering to. Then how is > kash, seperate from her in the spiritual realm that > Jagbir claims his kids visit. How are all the gods and > goddesses outside her, even there? > > 3)Again, in her last speech in 2004 she clearly and > emphatically said 'I do not see the difference between > you and adishakti, they are the same' She further > insisted that this speech be distributed immediately > worldwide. > > 4)Mataji told Jagbir, by his own admission, to leave > the work he had submitted to her. He pasted a note > saying she had said 'TO LEAVE IT TO HER'. Jagbir has > not left it to her. he continues to promote the site. > Thereby diobeying the adishakti. > > 5) When we all know that the dieties exist inside us, > and also inside the virat, then where are the seperate > identities coming from. The are all created by the > adishakti and exist inside her. > > 6)Again if someone is describing the insides of the > sahasrar, why has shri mataji not explained this > herself. Never has she mentioned that there is any > such place. No sahaja yogi has ever come forward to > descibe the experience either. I am sure you will > agree there are many yogis who have gone past > nirvikalpa also....and transcended the four chakras > beyond the sahasrar. > > 7)Does it not seem ridiculous to you that all the > divine beings are sitting around with human bodies > even in Heaven (Er..thats heaven right where Kash and > Arvinder go?) > Ever wondered if that what Kash and Arvinder see are > real then where do they get their clothes from, who > stitches them? Do they have a tailor, a hairdresser? > Shri Ram for sure has footwear, so is there an Adidas > store in that realm? ok, he wears sandals, a poor joke > on my part. But he's still need a cobbler. A forest to > get wood from....what are heavenly forests like? Human > bodies require food. Who cooks? > > 8)Why is it only Jagbirs kids get an audience in front > of shri Mataji? Where are all the devis and > devtas...35 crore of them. Where are the other > advanced sahaja yogis, do they get a seperate audience > in another realm of space? > > 9)As for why Shri MAtaji has not done anything about > Jagbirs site....well....she told him to leave it. He > did not listen. Now the SY sites dontlink to this > fantasy land...what more do you want her to do?? She > knows some seekers wil get misled. But thats the way > it has to be. > > > 10) Kash and Arinders visits are the basis of this > entire website. To say it is the last judgement that > is spoken of, is just a selling point. Sahaja Yoga > does not hide the FACT of the last judgement. In fact > as soon as you join SY, one of the first few tapes you > will find speaks clearly of THE LAST JUDGEMENT. Where > is the secret. > > 11)The techniques of spreading sahaja yoga have been > laid down by mataji, all of us do just that. And it is > effective. > > 12)If you think subtle system is not so important, > then my dear brothers and sisters please meditate > onthe fact that even during the last judgement, the > ones who will not be saved are the ones who have not > perfected their subtle system and thereby attained > nirvikalpa. > > > > > > > > Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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