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Hello all,

 

Instead of making effort to see Shri Mataji in Sahasrar i think the

effort has to be to become thoughtless. There are some reasons I say

this:

 

a) Seeing Shri Mataji in Sahasrar is a gift given by her to a highly

realized soul. Thus one has to become a highly realized soul first.

 

b) it might compel people to start imagining and go away from

thoughtlessness

 

c) Seeing Shri Mataji in sahasrar i believe is a state beyond all

intellect and thus cannot be achieved intellectually.

 

Shri Mataji gave a brief analogy about something similar to this. She

said that if you desire something it means that you are not that

thing but you have to rise to that state where you can say, mother I

am that(i.e. the atman, soul)

 

I think this is a very sensitive issue and it can give people who are

still not settled in sahaja any amount of ideas. So the focus should

be to become thoughtless and not visiting Shri Mataji in Sahasrar. If

we are lucky enough, we will get to that state but without asking for

it.

 

anuj

 

shriadishakti , " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org> wrote:

>

>

>

> shriadishakti , jagbir <adishakti_org>

> wrote:

> > >

> > > Some SYs are advancing far into the Turiya state and

> > > beyond, just like Satish's friend. He has never attended any

> > > collective and is yet far ahead.

> >

> shriadishakti , alex arthur <dude11976>

> wrote:

>

> > FINALLY JAGBIR, YOU HAVE SAID IT. YOUR POST ABOVE

> > IMPLIES THAT A PERSON IN TURIYA WILL MEET SHRI MATAJI

> > IN THE SAHASRAR........SO EVERYBODY IN THE FORUM, YOU

> > NOW KNOW IF YOU ARE PROGRESSING OR NOT.

> > ridiculous!!!!!

> >

> > You are now the classic definition of a prophet.

> > Giving your own sermons and discourses!!!

> >

>

>

> And i had just told my wife yesterday that some SYs have reached a

> very high state. In fact i was encouraging her to try to reach that

> Turiya state and beyond where it may be possible to meet Shri

Mataji

> in the Sahasrara. Before that i was under the impression that only

> children are innocent enough for that dizzying height of spiritual

> advancement.

>

> But Satish's email not only proved me wrong but also encouraged me

> to attempt this highest feat possible for a human. At least it set

a

> benchmark to achieve. Now it is possible for SYs like me to see the

> mountaintop, instead of wondering around on the plateau in circles.

> Now i am convinced any SY can attain the state that Satish's friend

> has achieved.

>

> The reason i wanted my wife to attempt this feat seriously because

> she is a great soul, better than me in many ways. i have confidence

> that she may make it in a few years, ahead of me of course.

>

> For all this new found confidence and encouragement that SYs

attempt

> the same feat i have now become, according to Alex, " the classic

> definition of a prophet " . What is the matter with this guy? What is

> really wrong Alex with encouraging others to reach the Nirvikalpa

> state and beyond? Are SYs who aspire others to attempt to reach the

> Turiya state going against Shri Mataji? Sahaja Yoga? humanity? What

> is it Alex that makes you suddenly so agitated by whatever i say?

>

> jagbir

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