Guest guest Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 Dear all, I had a question that arose in my mind today as I was walking in a quieter part of the city that is covered in trees, has birds flying about, and is really very nice. I am not a sahaja yogi yet, as everyone should know, but I had a fleeting glimpse of something and wanted to know if anyone could give me any insight or conformation in regard to that. Today I took a walk in a neighborhood by the ocean here in Vancouver Bc Canada, which is very quiet and free of all most all traffic(less a car or two here and there which drives by) though right downtown, and it was a cold but beautifully sunny day. As I walked down the street I made a Conscious effort to notice everything in great detail, from the smells, to the birds flying over head, to the color in the grass, the designs in the bricks which I was walking on; everything. As I did that, suddenly I found myself not making an effort to notice these things, yet noticing everything in greater detail then when I first started. Not only that, but colors were more vibrant, sounds and smells more pronounced etc. The thing that was really amazing is that I stopped thinking and had no thoughts, just a deep enjoyment of all that was around, how everything worked together perfectly, and was not consciously thinking about why the things I was seeing were making me happy. I simply was enjoying these things without any thoughts behind them what so ever. It was more then that, I was happy and it was as if I wasn't " me " , IE not identifying with how I look, what I was wearing, ego stuff or my past. IT was as if I didn't have a body and was suddenly aware of how I was actually behind this mask(body) and not the mask itself. I felt simply as though I belonged and was connected to everything and everyone. Even if I saw people smoking, or yelling, or sleeping on the benches in the park, looking through trash bins in the alley, I wasn't disgusted, saddened, fearful, just happy, peaceful and looked at these things with a sense of " love " I guess you could say, though I can't say for sure what it was. THE thing was, as soon as I began to analyze why I was feeling this way or questioning why I was enjoying these things, these feelings stopped and I felt once again disconnected from everything and brought right back into the real world and all its problems and my opinions/outlooks on all these things. No my question to EVERYONE out there is- IS being in thoughtless awareness in meditation and eventually on a daily basis in SY like this in anyway? I know if it is its to a degree many times greater then anything I experienced today, but was just curious if thoughtless awareness is anything like what I described above. I must say, if thoughtless awareness is like what I experienced above but to a degree much greater then that, I would not want to experience anything else or live in another ay but in that state at all time. It was amazing. I look forward to any responses I can get. Kyyan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2005 Report Share Posted February 10, 2005 -- Dear Kyyan, Dear Kyyan, The exercise you did, is one that Sri Mataji has mentioned, i.e. that we look at things without thinking of them. She once mentioned that for example if someone has a beautiful carpet, rather than thinking how much that carpet costs, enjoy the beauty of the carpet without thinking and that you will then feel the " joy " of the creator of that carpet. When you viewed how you did, the nature around you, you started to feel the joy of the Creator who created it all. You were witnessing with the " eyes " of your spirit and it gave you joy. In our materialistic societies, we have too much focus on our bodies, and minds and not on the spirit. You can stay at this level as you practice more and more to look with the eyes of your spirit. It is a very interesting learning curve and one you will find very joyful and it will give you a sense of the Real and of Reality. You will have insights which you never had before on the Oneness of All. These are all insights and spiritual knowledge that you already have but didn't consciously know because you may previously identified yourself more with your body, rather than the spirit. When you look with the eyes of your spirit, everything looks more vibrant because you are looking at the Reality and the reality is made up of Light. I remember when I " saw everything in a different light " . Not only that, you felt the Reality of yourself. That is how it feels to feel or be your own Spirit, which is the real you. " you are not the body, not the mind, not the emotions, you are the spirit. " It's wonderful isn't it! SM has often said that looking at the sky, the grass, and nature which God created; it helps us go into " thoughtless awareness. " In meditation, we experience " thoughtless awareness " and have a similar feelings of the " oneness of All " , the Lightness and the Peace and Joy. Violet - In shriadishakti , " v_koa " <v_koa> wrote: > > Dear all, > > I had a question that arose in my mind today as I was walking in a > quieter part of the city that is covered in trees, has birds flying > about, and is really very nice. I am not a sahaja yogi yet, as > everyone should know, but I had a fleeting glimpse of something and > wanted to know if anyone could give me any insight or conformation > in regard to that. > > Today I took a walk in a neighborhood by the ocean here in Vancouver > Bc Canada, which is very quiet and free of all most all traffic (less > a car or two here and there which drives by) though right downtown, > and it was a cold but beautifully sunny day. As I walked down the > street I made a Conscious effort to notice everything in great > detail, from the smells, to the birds flying over head, to the color > in the grass, the designs in the bricks which I was walking on; > everything. As I did that, suddenly I found myself not making an > effort to notice these things, yet noticing everything in greater > detail then when I first started. Not only that, but colors were > more vibrant, sounds and smells more pronounced etc. The thing that > was really amazing is that I stopped thinking and had no thoughts, > just a deep enjoyment of all that was around, how everything worked > together perfectly, and was not consciously thinking about why the > things I was seeing were making me happy. I simply was enjoying > these things without any thoughts behind them what so ever. It was > more then that, I was happy and it was as if I wasn't " me " , IE not > identifying with how I look, what I was wearing, ego stuff or my > past. IT was as if I didn't have a body and was suddenly aware of > how I was actually behind this mask(body) and not the mask itself. > I felt simply as though I belonged and was connected to everything > and everyone. Even if I saw people smoking, or yelling, or sleeping > on the benches in the park, looking through trash bins in the alley, > I wasn't disgusted, saddened, fearful, just happy, peaceful and > looked at these things with a sense of " love " I guess you could say, > though I can't say for sure what it was. > > THE thing was, as soon as I began to analyze why I was feeling this > way or questioning why I was enjoying these things, these feelings > stopped and I felt once again disconnected from everything and > brought right back into the real world and all its problems and my > opinions/outlooks on all these things. > > No my question to EVERYONE out there is- IS being in thoughtless > awareness in meditation and eventually on a daily basis in SY like > this in anyway? I know if it is its to a degree many times greater > then anything I experienced today, but was just curious if > thoughtless awareness is anything like what I described above. I > must say, if thoughtless awareness is like what I experienced above > but to a degree much greater then that, I would not want to > experience anything else or live in another ay but in that state at > all time. It was amazing. > > I look forward to any responses I can get. > > Kyyan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 Hello, to EVERYBODY ,the true awakening has some stages, my experience: a-the good souls in this world firstly begin to realize the beauty on earth , but there is still a sense of loneliness , you begin to see the real values on this planet b-then you begin to seperate the good thoughts from the real? world , it is very satisfactory to realize the beaties by yourself.. c-then day by day there will become adeep -anger- to the world and people, (ex; hey why doyou spend your time with useless things, you are jealous, you are bad, you do not think etc., you are shallow) ) so you begin and like to be alone , your lonliness begiin a nurturing and satisfactory experience, d- then ... e.-then--- f....one day, by a heavenly lived experince, you will embrace the whole world , before this there is a very unique experince about yourself, the most important part, and the most difficult part of the awakening . I know it, but I will not tell you, I must not tell you because it can effect you, you have to do it with all your innocence.. g- after this there are some stages also, you will go them alone, so I will not tell them to you... To EVERYBODY: wHY I write the stages??? because I saw that many-MANY- people in this world, come but cannot overcome some stages they cannot walk through the other, Realization is NOT enough for awakening .After realization you have to do alot of thngs ....ANGER i s a very powerful and difficult stage , you have to control yourself, loneliness is afine stage but it isnot enough , YOU is the most powerful one, what will you do with you? what do you want to do with you???? so even after the awakening you have to walk the way, your way...because life goes on and another life goes on... cella - " v_koa " <v_koa <shriadishakti > Friday, February 11, 2005 5:07 AM [shriadishakti] IS THOUGHTLESS AWARENESS LIKE THIS??? > > > Dear all, > > I had a question that arose in my mind today as I was walking in a > quieter part of the city that is covered in trees, has birds flying > about, and is really very nice. I am not a sahaja yogi yet, as > everyone should know, but I had a fleeting glimpse of something and > wanted to know if anyone could give me any insight or conformation > in regard to that. > > Today I took a walk in a neighborhood by the ocean here in Vancouver > Bc Canada, which is very quiet and free of all most all traffic(less > a car or two here and there which drives by) though right downtown, > and it was a cold but beautifully sunny day. As I walked down the > street I made a Conscious effort to notice everything in great > detail, from the smells, to the birds flying over head, to the color > in the grass, the designs in the bricks which I was walking on; > everything. As I did that, suddenly I found myself not making an > effort to notice these things, yet noticing everything in greater > detail then when I first started. Not only that, but colors were > more vibrant, sounds and smells more pronounced etc. The thing that > was really amazing is that I stopped thinking and had no thoughts, > just a deep enjoyment of all that was around, how everything worked > together perfectly, and was not consciously thinking about why the > things I was seeing were making me happy. I simply was enjoying > these things without any thoughts behind them what so ever. It was > more then that, I was happy and it was as if I wasn't " me " , IE not > identifying with how I look, what I was wearing, ego stuff or my > past. IT was as if I didn't have a body and was suddenly aware of > how I was actually behind this mask(body) and not the mask itself. > I felt simply as though I belonged and was connected to everything > and everyone. Even if I saw people smoking, or yelling, or sleeping > on the benches in the park, looking through trash bins in the alley, > I wasn't disgusted, saddened, fearful, just happy, peaceful and > looked at these things with a sense of " love " I guess you could say, > though I can't say for sure what it was. > > THE thing was, as soon as I began to analyze why I was feeling this > way or questioning why I was enjoying these things, these feelings > stopped and I felt once again disconnected from everything and > brought right back into the real world and all its problems and my > opinions/outlooks on all these things. > > No my question to EVERYONE out there is- IS being in thoughtless > awareness in meditation and eventually on a daily basis in SY like > this in anyway? I know if it is its to a degree many times greater > then anything I experienced today, but was just curious if > thoughtless awareness is anything like what I described above. I > must say, if thoughtless awareness is like what I experienced above > but to a degree much greater then that, I would not want to > experience anything else or live in another ay but in that state at > all time. It was amazing. > > I look forward to any responses I can get. > > Kyyan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2005 Report Share Posted February 11, 2005 I want to add something to this, these stages are begin and end may be in 10 years , may be in alife time, not in a weeks time or amonth, may be it can be, but, loneliness, searching, passion, anger are the stages of your soul, you have to overcome them, you have to nurture your soul, if you find a happy moment in your life time-a really very happy moment, you HAVE TO follow it,do it alot , give your life to it, if you live the thing and leave it aside and forget , it will leave you too...Go after it, everbody HAS to ask- search-study- the meaning of existance, the meaning of existence can only be shown to the GOOD souls ... shriadishakti , " cella " <cella@t...> wrote: > Hello, to EVERYBODY ,the true awakening has some stages, my experience: > > a-the good souls in this world firstly begin to realize the beauty on earth > , but there is still a sense of loneliness , you begin to see the real > values on this planet > b-then you begin to seperate the good thoughts from the real? world , it is > very satisfactory to realize the beaties by yourself.. > c-then day by day there will become adeep -anger- to the world and people, > (ex; hey why doyou spend your time with useless things, you are jealous, you > are bad, you do not think etc., you are shallow) ) so you begin and like to > be alone , your lonliness begiin a nurturing and satisfactory experience, > d- then ... > e.-then--- > f....one day, by a heavenly lived experince, you will embrace the whole > world , before this there is a very unique experince about yourself, > the most important part, and the most difficult part of the awakening . I > know it, but I will not tell you, I must not tell you because it can effect > you, > you have to do it with all your innocence.. > g- after this there are some stages also, you will go them alone, so I will > not tell them to you... > > To EVERYBODY: > wHY I write the stages??? because I saw that many-MANY- people in this > world, come but cannot overcome some stages they cannot walk through the > other, Realization is NOT enough for awakening .After realization you have > to do alot of thngs ....ANGER i s a very powerful and difficult stage , > you have to control yourself, loneliness is afine stage but it isnot enough > , YOU is the most powerful one, what will you do with you? what do you want > to do with you???? so even > after the awakening you have to walk the way, your way...because life goes > on and another life goes on... > cella > > > > > - > " v_koa " <v_koa> > <shriadishakti > > Friday, February 11, 2005 5:07 AM > [shriadishakti] IS THOUGHTLESS AWARENESS LIKE THIS??? > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > I had a question that arose in my mind today as I was walking in a > > quieter part of the city that is covered in trees, has birds flying > > about, and is really very nice. I am not a sahaja yogi yet, as > > everyone should know, but I had a fleeting glimpse of something and > > wanted to know if anyone could give me any insight or conformation > > in regard to that. > > > > Today I took a walk in a neighborhood by the ocean here in Vancouver > > Bc Canada, which is very quiet and free of all most all traffic (less > > a car or two here and there which drives by) though right downtown, > > and it was a cold but beautifully sunny day. As I walked down the > > street I made a Conscious effort to notice everything in great > > detail, from the smells, to the birds flying over head, to the color > > in the grass, the designs in the bricks which I was walking on; > > everything. As I did that, suddenly I found myself not making an > > effort to notice these things, yet noticing everything in greater > > detail then when I first started. Not only that, but colors were > > more vibrant, sounds and smells more pronounced etc. The thing that > > was really amazing is that I stopped thinking and had no thoughts, > > just a deep enjoyment of all that was around, how everything worked > > together perfectly, and was not consciously thinking about why the > > things I was seeing were making me happy. I simply was enjoying > > these things without any thoughts behind them what so ever. It was > > more then that, I was happy and it was as if I wasn't " me " , IE not > > identifying with how I look, what I was wearing, ego stuff or my > > past. IT was as if I didn't have a body and was suddenly aware of > > how I was actually behind this mask(body) and not the mask itself. > > I felt simply as though I belonged and was connected to everything > > and everyone. Even if I saw people smoking, or yelling, or sleeping > > on the benches in the park, looking through trash bins in the alley, > > I wasn't disgusted, saddened, fearful, just happy, peaceful and > > looked at these things with a sense of " love " I guess you could say, > > though I can't say for sure what it was. > > > > THE thing was, as soon as I began to analyze why I was feeling this > > way or questioning why I was enjoying these things, these feelings > > stopped and I felt once again disconnected from everything and > > brought right back into the real world and all its problems and my > > opinions/outlooks on all these things. > > > > No my question to EVERYONE out there is- IS being in thoughtless > > awareness in meditation and eventually on a daily basis in SY like > > this in anyway? I know if it is its to a degree many times greater > > then anything I experienced today, but was just curious if > > thoughtless awareness is anything like what I described above. I > > must say, if thoughtless awareness is like what I experienced above > > but to a degree much greater then that, I would not want to > > experience anything else or live in another ay but in that state at > > all time. It was amazing. > > > > I look forward to any responses I can get. > > > > Kyyan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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