Guest guest Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 I have been a chronically depressed person for years now, on and off, both for long periods of time, and i always wondered what the cause of depression was from a spiritual stand point. I can still remeber when i was care free and not depressed, but i can also remeber when i began to become depressed and the experiences that contributed to this condition. Medically they say its a chemical imbalance, but i believe it has more to do wit the spirit then the physical, as everything is spirit. I figure that like all dieases, it starts with spiritual, and then if it remains unresolved for sometime manifests as diease somewhere in the body. I was wondering if anyone can shed some light on what depression is and other related insights with reagrds to depression. Thankx kyyan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2005 Report Share Posted February 21, 2005 How about we save you a sermon on causes and lead you to the cure right away! I dont know when you are finally going on your date with Sahaja Yoga, but really, do yourself a favour and make it fast. It isn't a climb up a mountain or anything, you just have to open the palms of your hands and its yours. There is no point in leafing through a flight manual when you dont have the plane. So lets get you a plane and then all of us will tell you all the tricks you can do with it. --- v_koa <v_koa wrote: > > > I have been a chronically depressed person for years > now, on and off, > both for long periods of time, and i always wondered > what the cause > of depression was from a spiritual stand point. I > can still remeber > when i was care free and not depressed, but i can > also remeber when i > began to become depressed and the experiences that > contributed to > this condition. Medically they say its a chemical > imbalance, but i > believe it has more to do wit the spirit then the > physical, as > everything is spirit. I figure that like all > dieases, it starts with > spiritual, and then if it remains unresolved for > sometime manifests > as diease somewhere in the body. I was wondering if > anyone can shed > some light on what depression is and other related > insights with > reagrds to depression. > > Thankx > > kyyan > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2005 Report Share Posted February 22, 2005 - Dear Kyyan " Depression " can be a result of all sorts of causes and you seem to know when these started, so its not a " generalised " depression but you probably need to " deal " with some " issues " in your life. Depression can also come " inadvertently " through influences in our environment. There is a main general reason for " depression " and that is " neglect of the Spirit " . That is why I would like to suggest that you take yourself to a SY centre where they are very well equipped to help you to get in touch with your Spirit. There are really very wonderful yogis who can help you there. Do not be afraid. Perhaps get your " physical " help from there and ask your " questions " at the forum here. That way it will probably work out best. You could also tell us how things are going and we could reassure you in this venture. The yogis will deal more with the " depression " itself than the " reason " for it. If there are " psychological " or " physical " reasons for it, getting your SR and help from yogis is the best way to get you a new start. They will help you to get into " thoughtless awareness " and into " balance " . They will help you to get your connection with your spirit and this will help you to " deal " with your " depression " . Divine mantras help a lot. If you are ready, ask them to do the " mantras " with you, because they will awaken the " deities " within your chakras so that the " spiritual qualities " can start flowing within you. You will get all the " spiritual " and " moral " support you need on this website and also " spiritual " and " physical " support you need at the SY collective. Please do this for yourself. You will not regret it. It is time to look after your Spirit. Your Spirit is wanting you to look after yourself. One step at a time does it. That's how we grow. One step at a time. Love from Violet -- In shriadishakti , " v_koa " <v_koa> wrote: > > I have been a chronically depressed person for years now, on and off, > both for long periods of time, and i always wondered what the cause > of depression was from a spiritual stand point. I can still remeber > when i was care free and not depressed, but i can also remeber when i > began to become depressed and the experiences that contributed to > this condition. Medically they say its a chemical imbalance, but i > believe it has more to do wit the spirit then the physical, as > everything is spirit. I figure that like all dieases, it starts with > spiritual, and then if it remains unresolved for sometime manifests > as diease somewhere in the body. I was wondering if anyone can shed > some light on what depression is and other related insights with > reagrds to depression. > > Thankx > > kyyan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2005 Report Share Posted February 22, 2005 shriadishakti , " violet_tubb " <vtubb@b...> wrote: > > Dear Kyyan > > " Depression " can be a result of all sorts of causes and you seem > to know when these started, so its not a " generalised " depression > but you probably need to " deal " with some " issues " in your life. > Depression can also come " inadvertently " through influences in our > environment. There is a main general reason for " depression " and > that is " neglect of the Spirit " . > > That is why I would like to suggest that you take yourself to a SY > centre where they are very well equipped to help you to get in > touch with your Spirit.... > > Please do this for yourself. You will not regret it. It is time to > look after your Spirit. Your Spirit is wanting you to look after > yourself. > > divinesahajayoga " Neha Maan " <ii_neha_ii Sat, 19 Feb 2005 20:51:09 +0000 (GMT) DivineSahajayoga JSMJ JSMJ, I am a sikh girl.I was depressed .I came to know about this site and started doing meditation.I had visited Sahaja centre 4 times.My life has now changed. I am out of depression.My problem is that my family is not allowing me to visit centre because I am from sikh family.They think ,It will create problems for me after marriage because it will not be acceptable for my in-laws also to do meditation and doing such actions like bandhan and kundali raising.My family think that they will think I am performing some black magic on them.As in our religion,it is compulsory to do prayer only in front of Shri Guru Granth Sahib and not in front of any hindu diety or others.I am doing meditation daily without telling my family.But I could not receive vibrations as I could not do collective meditation now.So can anyone guide me.Can any person from sikh family contact me on my mail id. Eager to see the reply soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2005 Report Share Posted February 22, 2005 Dear Neha Maan, Your story " confirms " that help can be obtained from SY centre for " depression " . You are fortunate that at this time of our " spiritual resurrection " we can be changed, all through the incarnation of Sri Mataji Nirmala Devi. No person, even the Sikh religion and family have the power to " enter " your " temple " within. You can use your outer " restrictions " to make your " inner " freedom even sweeter. You can also pray to Sri Ganesha who is the Remover of all Obstacles and state your desires to him and to SM. God hears and answers prayer and your prayer may be to be a " shining light " within your own community, indeed showing the qualities of love, peace, joy and compassion to others. You can also go into your " private " room to pray. You do not have to have any pictures; anything; just pray from the " temple " of your heart wherein are all the " deities " on your every " chakra " . They are literally there, as evidenced by Kash, so you can meditate upon them from within. In Jesus' time, there were many " secret " worshippers who were not allowed to " outwardly " show their faith. It is not an unheard of situation, so " take courage " from that knowledge. You do not have to depend upon others to " receive vibrations " . You can give yourself " vibrations " . You will receive " vibrations " when you " meditate " upon the " deities " within your subtle system. Receiving of " vibrations " within you happen when the " deities " within " awaken " and a " wind " of the Holy Spirit circulates within and around you. My own family do not know I am SY. They are Fundamentalist Christian and would think that I have joined a " Hindu Cult " . However,it is easier for me as they live in Canada and I live in Australia. The world is also going through a religious revolution and eventually there will be a " breaking down " of " religions barriers " that do not accept all the " flowers " of the " tree of life " (i.e. all the prophets and incarnations). This is very much coming into " world attention " now and will be much more so in the future. In other worlds, the " Sikh " religion could change in the future to accept SY; this could be your prayer too; you can help this change to come about by your " desire " . You see we each have our place (physical) where we can " effect " transformation in this world. A last " tip " is that " please do not see yourself as being restricted but having the freedom of the Spirit within yourself " . Others will see that and wonder what your " secret " is. I am not from a Sikh background but I hope this will help you. Violet shriadishakti , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org> wrote: > > > > shriadishakti , " violet_tubb " <vtubb@b...> > wrote: > > > > Dear Kyyan > > > > " Depression " can be a result of all sorts of causes and you seem > > to know when these started, so its not a " generalised " depression > > but you probably need to " deal " with some " issues " in your life. > > Depression can also come " inadvertently " through influences in our > > environment. There is a main general reason for " depression " and > > that is " neglect of the Spirit " . > > > > That is why I would like to suggest that you take yourself to a SY > > centre where they are very well equipped to help you to get in > > touch with your Spirit.... > > > > Please do this for yourself. You will not regret it. It is time to > > look after your Spirit. Your Spirit is wanting you to look after > > yourself. > > > > > > divinesahajayoga > " Neha Maan " <ii_neha_ii> > Sat, 19 Feb 2005 20:51:09 +0000 (GMT) > DivineSahajayoga JSMJ > > > JSMJ, > > I am a sikh girl.I was depressed .I came to know about this site and > started doing meditation.I had visited Sahaja centre 4 times.My life > has now changed. > > I am out of depression.My problem is that my family is not allowing > me to visit centre because I am from sikh family.They think ,It will > create problems for me after marriage because it will not be > acceptable for my in-laws also to do meditation and doing such > actions like bandhan and kundali raising.My family think that they > will think I am performing some black magic on them.As in our > religion,it is compulsory to do prayer only in front of Shri Guru > Granth Sahib and not in front of any hindu diety or others.I am > doing meditation daily without telling my family.But I could not > receive vibrations as I could not do collective meditation now.So > can anyone guide me.Can any person from sikh family contact me on my > mail id. > > Eager to see the reply soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2005 Report Share Posted February 22, 2005 Thanks again violet. Im not completely sure what: " Divine mantras help a lot. If you are ready, ask them to do the " mantras " with you, because they will awaken the " deities " within your chakras so that the " spiritual qualities " can start flowing within you. " means and if they are something i have to specifically request help with from the sy's, but i will definatly keep that in mind when i get to a yoga center and find out about all that and more. Thank you kyyan shriadishakti , " violet_tubb " <vtubb@b...> wrote: > > - > Dear Kyyan > > " Depression " can be a result of all sorts of causes and you seem to > know when these started, so its not a " generalised " depression but > you probably need to " deal " with some " issues " in your life. > Depression can also come " inadvertently " through influences in our > environment. There is a main general reason for " depression " and > that is " neglect of the Spirit " . > > That is why I would like to suggest that you take yourself to a SY > centre where they are very well equipped to help you to get in touch > with your Spirit. > > There are really very wonderful yogis who can help you there. Do not > be afraid. Perhaps get your " physical " help from there and ask > your " questions " at the forum here. That way it will probably work > out best. You could also tell us how things are going and we could > reassure you in this venture. > > The yogis will deal more with the " depression " itself than > the " reason " for it. If there are " psychological " or " physical " > reasons for it, getting your SR and help from yogis is the best way > to get you a new start. They will help you to get into " thoughtless > awareness " and into " balance " . > > They will help you to get your connection with your spirit and this > will help you to " deal " with your " depression " . > > Divine mantras help a lot. If you are ready, ask them to do > the " mantras " with you, because they will awaken the " deities " > within your chakras so that the " spiritual qualities " can start > flowing within you. > > You will get all the " spiritual " and " moral " support you need on > this website and also " spiritual " and " physical " support you need at > the SY collective. > > Please do this for yourself. You will not regret it. It is time to > look after your Spirit. Your Spirit is wanting you to look after > yourself. > > One step at a time does it. That's how we grow. One step at a time. > > > > > Love from Violet -- In shriadishakti , " v_koa " <v_koa> wrote: > > > > I have been a chronically depressed person for years now, on and > off, > > both for long periods of time, and i always wondered what the > cause > > of depression was from a spiritual stand point. I can still > remeber > > when i was care free and not depressed, but i can also remeber > when i > > began to become depressed and the experiences that contributed to > > this condition. Medically they say its a chemical imbalance, but i > > believe it has more to do wit the spirit then the physical, as > > everything is spirit. I figure that like all dieases, it starts > with > > spiritual, and then if it remains unresolved for sometime > manifests > > as diease somewhere in the body. I was wondering if anyone can > shed > > some light on what depression is and other related insights with > > reagrds to depression. > > > > Thankx > > > > kyyan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2005 Report Share Posted February 22, 2005 Thank you so much as well for the frank and str-8 forward response, which in many ways is like a wake up call to reality and a full fledge push in the right direction, as opposed to a nudge. I definatly need that as i am a master at coming up with excuses for me not to do things, no matter how good they are for me need that. Thankx. Kyyan shriadishakti , Avnish Bhagat <avnishbhagat> wrote: > How about we save you a sermon on causes and lead you > to the cure right away! > > I dont know when you are finally going on your date > with Sahaja Yoga, but really, do yourself a favour and > make it fast. It isn't a climb up a mountain or > anything, you just have to open the palms of your > hands and its yours. > > There is no point in leafing through a flight manual > when you dont have the plane. So lets get you a plane > and then all of us will tell you all the tricks you > can do with it. > > > --- v_koa <v_koa> wrote: > > > > > > I have been a chronically depressed person for years > > now, on and off, > > both for long periods of time, and i always wondered > > what the cause > > of depression was from a spiritual stand point. I > > can still remeber > > when i was care free and not depressed, but i can > > also remeber when i > > began to become depressed and the experiences that > > contributed to > > this condition. Medically they say its a chemical > > imbalance, but i > > believe it has more to do wit the spirit then the > > physical, as > > everything is spirit. I figure that like all > > dieases, it starts with > > spiritual, and then if it remains unresolved for > > sometime manifests > > as diease somewhere in the body. I was wondering if > > anyone can shed > > some light on what depression is and other related > > insights with > > reagrds to depression. > > > > Thankx > > > > kyyan > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2005 Report Share Posted February 23, 2005 Dear Kyyan, Our bodies are literally the " temple of the Holy Spirit " . Located on each chakra, is the " deity " of that chakra. If you read about Kash's knowledge from Sahasrara, he actually saw them on each of his chakras. So its real; not a figment of our imagination. Actually, the fact that " Kash " has seen this, makes it even more " real " for me and I understand it better for that knowledge. I have chosen the " |mantra " for the Agnya Chakra to give you an example. The mantra is in Sanskrit, because this is the source of all languages today and the oldest language on earth and very vibrational. " Jesus " and " Mary " are the deities who came at this time in our evolution to teach us the lessons of " love " and " forgiveness " , etc. This is how it goes:- " Om twameva Sakshat " (means " Thou art that Thou art " ) " Sri Jesus Mary Sakshat " (means " Jesus/Mary art Thou) " Shri Adi Shakti Mataji " (means that all Deities are in Shri Mataji the Great Primordial Mother) " Shri Nirmala Devi " (Imaculate Goddess) " Namoh, Namah! " (form of acknowledgment) When you " say " it or " sing " it, the mantra " awakens " Sri Jesus and Sri Mary within you and as they awaken within you, they create vibrations within you and bring you " qualities " related to this chakra. Jesus taught forgiveness and love. You will " automatically " have within you like a flower opening, the qualities of " forgiveness " and " love " happening within you. I call these " mantras " Divine " , because when you sincerely say them, they activate the Grace of God within your Inmost Self. " Divine " also is connected to the word " Devi " . In fact, a " Devi " could be called " Divine " , just as God is Divine. These deities are all One; part of God Himself. It just helps to have someone to show you the first time how to do it, that's all. Once someone has shown you, you can do it yourself. You can even try it yourself if you want. There is no hard and fast rule here but it does help to be shown. Violet There is a particular tune for it. - " v_koa " <v_koa <shriadishakti > Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:08 PM [shriadishakti] Re: Depression. WHat is the cause?? > > > Thanks again violet. Im not completely sure what: > > " Divine mantras help a lot. If you are ready, ask them to do > the " mantras " with you, because they will awaken the " deities " > within your chakras so that the " spiritual qualities " can start > flowing within you. " > > means and if they are something i have to specifically request help > with from the sy's, but i will definatly keep that in mind when i > get to a yoga center and find out about all that and more. > > Thank you > > kyyan > shriadishakti , " violet_tubb " <vtubb@b...> > wrote: >> >> - >> Dear Kyyan >> >> " Depression " can be a result of all sorts of causes and you seem > to >> know when these started, so its not a " generalised " depression but >> you probably need to " deal " with some " issues " in your life. >> Depression can also come " inadvertently " through influences in our >> environment. There is a main general reason for " depression " and >> that is " neglect of the Spirit " . >> >> That is why I would like to suggest that you take yourself to a SY >> centre where they are very well equipped to help you to get in > touch >> with your Spirit. >> >> There are really very wonderful yogis who can help you there. Do > not >> be afraid. Perhaps get your " physical " help from there and ask >> your " questions " at the forum here. That way it will probably work >> out best. You could also tell us how things are going and we could >> reassure you in this venture. >> >> The yogis will deal more with the " depression " itself than >> the " reason " for it. If there are " psychological " or " physical " >> reasons for it, getting your SR and help from yogis is the best > way >> to get you a new start. They will help you to get > into " thoughtless >> awareness " and into " balance " . >> >> They will help you to get your connection with your spirit and > this >> will help you to " deal " with your " depression " . >> >> Divine mantras help a lot. If you are ready, ask them to do >> the " mantras " with you, because they will awaken the " deities " >> within your chakras so that the " spiritual qualities " can start >> flowing within you. >> >> You will get all the " spiritual " and " moral " support you need on >> this website and also " spiritual " and " physical " support you need > at >> the SY collective. >> >> Please do this for yourself. You will not regret it. It is time to >> look after your Spirit. Your Spirit is wanting you to look after >> yourself. >> >> One step at a time does it. That's how we grow. One step at a time. >> >> >> >> >> Love from Violet >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- In shriadishakti , " v_koa " <v_koa> wrote: >> > >> > I have been a chronically depressed person for years now, on and >> off, >> > both for long periods of time, and i always wondered what the >> cause >> > of depression was from a spiritual stand point. I can still >> remeber >> > when i was care free and not depressed, but i can also remeber >> when i >> > began to become depressed and the experiences that contributed > to >> > this condition. Medically they say its a chemical imbalance, but > i >> > believe it has more to do wit the spirit then the physical, as >> > everything is spirit. I figure that like all dieases, it starts >> with >> > spiritual, and then if it remains unresolved for sometime >> manifests >> > as diease somewhere in the body. I was wondering if anyone can >> shed >> > some light on what depression is and other related insights with >> > reagrds to depression. >> > >> > Thankx >> > >> > kyyan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 shriadishakti , " v_koa " <v_koa> wrote: > > Thank you so much as well for the frank and str-8 forward response, which in many ways is like a wake up call to reality and a full fledge push in the right direction, as opposed to a nudge. I > definatly need that as i am a master at coming up with excuses for > me not to do things, no matter how good they are for me need that. > Thankx. > > Kyyan > > shriadishakti , Avnish Bhagat > <avnishbhagat> wrote: > > > > How about we save you a sermon on causes and lead you > > to the cure right away! > > > > I dont know when you are finally going on your date > > with Sahaja Yoga, but really, do yourself a favour and > > make it fast. It isn't a climb up a mountain or > > anything, you just have to open the palms of your > > hands and its yours. > > > > There is no point in leafing through a flight manual > > when you dont have the plane. So lets get you a plane > > and then all of us will tell you all the tricks you > > can do with it. > > > > know_yourself_sy " singh_priyanka1 " <singh_priyanka1 Sun, 20 Feb 2005 15:10:20 -0000 HWP for Thursday, Feb 24, 2005 SAHAJA IS A SIMPLE THING Have you seen the flower? How simple it is to grow a flower, it just works. You just get some seeds, sow, then and you get the plants, how simple it is, do we ever think how it works out. Looks very complicated, it is if you start thinking about it, you will go mad if you start analysing it, but its so simple. In the same way, this happening is also a very, very simple thing. It is called Sahaja. Sahaja has two meanings, Sahaja means simple, also it means the thing that is born with you, Sahaja is a simple thing because it is born with you, I mean your nose is born with you, or it's a simple thing. You don't have to do anything basically, anyway do anything to it to breathe, it's there, in the same way, this built in process is within you, it is just there. To me it is absolutely simple and to you also it will be simple as soon as you get it. Cofusion-the subtle slavery,1982 H.H.SHRI MATAJI NIRMALA DEVI --Founder of Sahaja Yoga-- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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