Re; Alex

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Dear Alex,

Spiritual experiences cannot be truly understood by any amount of

careful explaining of principles or by accumulation and dissection

of factual information, no matter how extensive. This is like the

situation of a surgeon who has studied exactly how to do a

complicated operation, knows all the facts to the tiniest detail,

but without actually going ahead and doing an operation himself, he

remains an inexperienced bystander, and might as well not have

learnt anything at all. Simply knowing about something and trying to

analyse it from an outside point is not enough to understand it.

Knowledge alone cannot give you the perspective that experience does.

No amount of knowledge can take the place of personal experience of

the Holy Spirit.

I do not understand why you would want to view spiritual

experiences of anyone with mocking and contempt. Why do you wish to

confine the Divine to something that you think it should be? In all

religions there have been people who have experienced the Divine in

different ways; you accept none?

 

Regards, Semira

 

 

 

 

Alex wrote;JAGBIR _ PLEASE DONT GET ANGRY> I WANT TO BELIEVE YOU<

> > I REALLY DO>>I JUST DONT WANT TO END UP IN AN ASYLUM

> > AT THE SAME TIME THAT HAPPENS

> >

> Danny wrote;Alex,you don't need to believe anything in Sahaja

Yoga,you already

> know this.

> I's about an experience and a transformation of your being.There is

no

> amount of ,,proof,, anybody could give you,because one can't

> understand a spiritual principle

> unless becomes one with that principle.In other words,it's not

> something to understand,it is something to BECOME.Don't fool

yourself

> and be proud of how many of Shri Mataji's talks you have read,or

even

> how many pujas you've attended.

> The adishakti site you disrespect to such extremes(instead of being

> happy for the wealth of knowledge and truth it contains) won't make

> you pass the painful Agnya

> catch between your eyebrows.Only the AdiShakti can do that.!!!

>

> I also observe your lack of wisdom,because you answer one response

> with a fresh question or objection,so I assume you have a steady

> supply of questions up your sleeve,ready to menace people with

them.

> The very core problem of this behavior must be your unsuccessful

> attempts to open your third eye,and see all the Gods(35 billions ,I

> assume you want to meet them all). I have good news for you,you

don't

> need to have such experiences to reach GOD.You already know that

the

> Kingdom of God resides within,so keep on meditating.

>

> About Jagbir's children,I reckon your temporary inability to verify

> the vibrations about this subject,but this is not relevant

here...what

> is important is the message presented while their travel in the

astral

> plane,where the collective unconscious presented them with the same

> principalities(God's emanations,or qualities of the Divine,where

the

> AdiShakti is the Power,or the Will of God).

> Now,Alex...what was the message ?(I discount your moronic

> interpretation about ,,what shoes Shri Ram wears,,...or what do

they

> eat?...your lack of understanding of the different vibratory levels

of

> existence is clear ,but I can't comprehend your evident mocking of

> these sensitive spiritual issues...I can tell you now only

this...if

> you don't have the very SAME vibratory level as Kash,you won't meet

> him in heaven after death.You,Alex,will have around only alexes.)

>

> But lets go back to the message.Was something said by Kash which

> contradicts the very core beliefs of SY?...If you attack

> something,please make an effort to attack the message,because HOW

the

> message was obtained is temporarily beyond your level of

comprehension

> ,even though it is not a ,,novelty,,..and all the religions in the

> world have had their share of great souls who could achieve

this,not

> even talking about the many realized souls yogis who,way before the

> Sahaja Yoga,mapped the chackras system and talked about the Divine

> Feminine(Shakti) residing within.

>

> So,Alex,don't worry about nothing and if you don't understand

> something,just don't go nuts.Meditate instead,my brother " ) ..And

don't

> worry about the pimple.I had some of those on my feet,and I walked

on

> the path of pain everyday..'till I discovered Sahaja Yoga.Since

then,I

> don't walk anymore.I levitate.)

> danny

...............................................

" The best calibre works hard, it has very concentrated effort and

understands Sahaja Yoga very quickly. A person who just wants to be

to

become can never be deterred by anything in his lifetime. He feels

the

subtleties of the Unconscious, he has felt his archetype images of

these Deities, he has known them. He has these eruptions within him.

He identifies and recognises the subtleties and he tallies them with

Sahaja Yoga and it gets him like that. Now, these subtleties which I

am describing to you, come to you, not through your mental effort of

this lifetime, but come to you from the experiences of many lives you

have gone through, and as soon as you come near Sahaja Yoga you start

sucking the vibrations, that is the calibre. The subtle person is a

brave man, and his bravery comes from his built in capacity of these

subtleties, he does not succumb to doubts, he just sees it, he fights

it. But Sahaja Yoga is such a wonderful thing that even those people

who at one time looked very gross, suddenly come out with such

beautiful manifestation of subtleties that it is surprising – but

that

is exceptional. "

Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi( 09-1982)

 

So Alex,let me repeat the words of Shri Mataji,so you might grasp

them

better,my dear brother:

,,Now, these subtleties which I am describing to you, come to you,

not

through your mental effort of this lifetime, but come to you from the

experiences of many lives you have gone through,,

 

,,He feels the subtleties of the Unconscious, he has felt his

archetype images of these Deities, he has known them. He has these

eruptions within him. He identifies and recognises the subtleties,,

 

Now,I still can't comprehend your stubbornness to meet Shri Mataji in

sahasrara,or your sarcastic remarks about what kind of shoes Shri

Rama wears.The soul has to very pure for one to be granted such

revelations.I reckon this task is almost impossible for somebody with

pimples on the brain,but you might try...

danny