Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Dear John, This method of harassing members offline is unacceptable. If you do not have the conviction that you comments will make sense online, please refrain from going after individual SYs. Over the years a number of SYs, especially from Australia, have complained that you are a control freak. i have to admit that by your recent actions it is true what has been said. Please stop putting fear in the weaker sex. That is not the way to treat a sister who have not said anything to you and want to be left alone. Can you just leave her alone please? jagbir shriadishakti , " kriptodanny " <kriptodanny> wrote: > > Dear John > > Please make an effort to express your personal opinions straight up on this forum.This is a bad habit to email people telling them about your evident dissatisfaction about their posts.Also,using words like,,be more careful,,..is not the best way to address these issues,whatever in private emails,or open forums.Please restrain yourself a bit,and if the pain of reading these posts becomes unbearable ,you can always suck up the pain,or post your wisdom on the subject,so others can comprehend it,and respond to it.Also,please give us your personal interpretation of the nature of spirit,soul,and chakras,since you are correcting people in private emails,yet refuse to add your 2 cents > worth in public forums. > danny > ................................................................... .............................................. > Violet wrote: > This is another message i have received. I know i have not tried to > " interpret " SM's words in what i wrote and JN is " accusing " me of > something. However, i am sending this to you so that you can " witness " > it with me. > I am not replying to JN at this stage because i am just going to > " witness " > But Danny, i want you to be aware of a person who tries to " restrict " > and he " restricts " the collective in many ways. > > Violet > > - > " John Noyce " <sahajhist>, (johnnoyce@h..., > noycepublishing@h...,) > <vtubb@b...> > Tuesday, March 01, 2005 2:45 PM > Re: [shriadishakti] Re: Relationship between Spirit, Soul, > Chakras, > and Body > > > Violet > > This is a complex interrelationship with great > > subtlety which is why it is better to leave yogis to > > understand what Shri Mataji has said on the subject > > for themselves. If it was possible to reduce this to > > an 'easy-to-read format', HH Shri Mataji would > > certainly have done so! > > > > Your summary has in fact become your interpretation. > > > > Please be more careful in future. > > > > John > > > --- violet_tubb <vtubb@b...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Danny, > > > > Thank you so much for Message 3647 in which you sent a > > great > > description from SM of the relationship > > between " spirit " , " soul " " chakras " and " body " . > > > > I've put this information in an easy-to-read format > > and would like > > to pass it on in the hopes that it might make it clear > > for you too! > > > > > > 1./SPIRIT - ( " Atma " ) > > - " subtlest " > > - Acts on SOUL > > - " Atma " is eternal; not created > > > > 2./SOUL - ( " Jivatma " ) > > - " subtler " > > - Acts on CHAKRAS > > - created from 5 elements which give our identity, > > character > > and particularity > > - " causal " means the " cause, which causes " > > - the way that these 5 elemts are placed in us is the > > " causal " that > > acts on our chakras > > > > 3./Chakras - ( " Energy Centres " ) > > - " subtle " > > - Act on BODY > > > > 4./Body - > > - " gross " , meaning " most dense " > > > > > > Love from Violet > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Hmm. That was intended to be a private email, but as it is now public, I'll repeat my view, namely that attempting to summarise HH Shri Mataji on any subject seems unwise, but on such a complex interrelationship as the soul and the spirit ... J --- jagbir singh <adishakti_org wrote: Dear John, This method of harassing members offline is unacceptable. If you do not have the conviction that you comments will make sense online, please refrain from going after individual SYs. Over the years a number of SYs, especially from Australia, have complained that you are a control freak. i have to admit that by your recent actions it is true what has been said. Please stop putting fear in the weaker sex. That is not the way to treat a sister who have not said anything to you and want to be left alone. Can you just leave her alone please? jagbir shriadishakti , " kriptodanny " <kriptodanny> wrote: > > Dear John > > Please make an effort to express your personal opinions straight up on this forum.This is a bad habit to email people telling them about your evident dissatisfaction about their posts.Also,using words like,,be more careful,,..is not the best way to address these issues,whatever in private emails,or open forums.Please restrain yourself a bit,and if the pain of reading these posts becomes unbearable ,you can always suck up the pain,or post your wisdom on the subject,so others can comprehend it,and respond to it.Also,please give us your personal interpretation of the nature of spirit,soul,and chakras,since you are correcting people in private emails,yet refuse to add your 2 cents > worth in public forums. > danny > .................................................................... .............................................. > Violet wrote: > This is another message i have received. I know i have not tried to > " interpret " SM's words in what i wrote and JN is " accusing " me of > something. However, i am sending this to you so that you can " witness " > it with me. > I am not replying to JN at this stage because i am just going to > " witness " > But Danny, i want you to be aware of a person who tries to " restrict " > and he " restricts " the collective in many ways. > > Violet > > - > " John Noyce " <sahajhist>, (johnnoyce@h..., > noycepublishing@h...,) > <vtubb@b...> > Tuesday, March 01, 2005 2:45 PM > Re: [shriadishakti] Re: Relationship between Spirit, Soul, > Chakras, > and Body > > > Violet > > This is a complex interrelationship with great > > subtlety which is why it is better to leave yogis to > > understand what Shri Mataji has said on the subject > > for themselves. If it was possible to reduce this to > > an 'easy-to-read format', HH Shri Mataji would > > certainly have done so! > > > > Your summary has in fact become your interpretation. > > > > Please be more careful in future. > > > > John > > > --- violet_tubb <vtubb@b...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Danny, > > > > Thank you so much for Message 3647 in which you sent a > > great > > description from SM of the relationship > > between " spirit " , " soul " " chakras " and " body " . > > > > I've put this information in an easy-to-read format > > and would like > > to pass it on in the hopes that it might make it clear > > for you too! > > > > > > 1./SPIRIT - ( " Atma " ) > > - " subtlest " > > - Acts on SOUL > > - " Atma " is eternal; not created > > > > 2./SOUL - ( " Jivatma " ) > > - " subtler " > > - Acts on CHAKRAS > > - created from 5 elements which give our identity, > > character > > and particularity > > - " causal " means the " cause, which causes " > > - the way that these 5 elemts are placed in us is the > > " causal " that > > acts on our chakras > > > > 3./Chakras - ( " Energy Centres " ) > > - " subtle " > > - Act on BODY > > > > 4./Body - > > - " gross " , meaning " most dense " > > > > > > Love from Violet > > > Find local movie times and trailers on Movies. http://au.movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 John, We are just telling you not to harrass SYs privately. Expressing the same in public on this forum is the proper way to exchange views. But picking on Violet in private is indeed bullying her into submission ..... i mean you have been repeating your " be careful " warnings one time too many. Why pick on her? Is it because she is an Aussie and within your sphere of obedience? John Noyce, you are a bully who likes to control those in your collective. There are a number of SYs in Australia who have said so. It is time to stop controlling others because those subject to your methods detest them. And who are you to tell SYs that to " summarise HH Shri Mataji on any subject seems unwise " ? What is the matter with you? Can't we SYs discuss and try to explain to each other what Shri Mataji's has said of certain topics? Who are you to tell others not to do so? What is so wrong about doing so? Why then is it alright that those you invite to join your forum can talk about the same topic? im sure you would not have found anyhting wrong then. Isn't this hypocritical? BTW, can you quote Shri Mataji saying that SYs should not discuss Her quotes? i sure would like you to quote Her. If you cannot then just stop harassing others. It is not good for your Vishuddhi! jagbir shriadishakti , John Noyce <sahajhist> wrote: > Hmm. That was intended to be a private email, but as > it is now public, I'll repeat my view, namely that > attempting to summarise HH Shri Mataji on any subject > seems unwise, but on such a complex interrelationship > as the soul and the spirit ... > J > > > --- jagbir singh <adishakti_org> wrote: > > > > > Dear John, > > This method of harassing members offline is unacceptable. If you do not have the conviction that you comments will make > sense online, please refrain from going after individual SYs. Over > the years a number of SYs, especially from Australia, have > complained that you are a control freak. i have to admit that by your recent actions it is true what has been said. Please stop putting fear in the weaker sex. That is not the way to treat a sister who have not said anything to you and want to be left alone. Can you just leave her alone please? > > jagbir > > shriadishakti , " kriptodanny " > <kriptodanny> wrote: > > > > Dear John > > > > Please make an effort to express your personal opinions straight > up on this forum.This is a bad habit to email people telling them > about your evident dissatisfaction about their posts.Also,using > words like,,be more careful,,..is not the best way to address these issues,whatever in private emails,or open forums.Please restrain yourself a bit,and if the pain of reading these posts > becomes unbearable ,you can always suck up the pain,or post > your wisdom on the subject,so others can comprehend it,and respond to it. Also,please give us your personal interpretation of the nature of spirit,soul,and chakras,since you are correcting > people in private emails,yet refuse to add your 2 cents > > worth in public forums. > > danny > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2005 Report Share Posted March 2, 2005 Jagbir This is laughable. I dont have any 'sphere of obedience'. In the local collective of which Violet and I are members, there is only one leader, and that's the one appointed by the national coordinator. And yes he does have my support. Jagbir you have said many times that you are not part of your local Sahaj collective. Well thats your choice. But I DO choose to be part of the collective in my area. Once again you're jumping to conclusions. Rant on bro', I'm off to bed. John shriadishakti , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org> wrote: > > > > John, > > We are just telling you not to harrass SYs privately. Expressing the > same in public on this forum is the proper way to exchange views. > But picking on Violet in private is indeed bullying her into > submission ..... i mean you have been repeating your " be careful " > warnings one time too many. Why pick on her? Is it because she is an > Aussie and within your sphere of obedience? John Noyce, you are a > bully who likes to control those in your collective. There are a > number of SYs in Australia who have said so. It is time to stop > controlling others because those subject to your methods detest them. > > And who are you to tell SYs that to " summarise HH Shri Mataji on any > subject seems unwise " ? What is the matter with you? Can't we SYs > discuss and try to explain to each other what Shri Mataji's has said > of certain topics? Who are you to tell others not to do so? What is > so wrong about doing so? Why then is it alright that those you > invite to join your forum can talk about the same topic? im sure you > would not have found anyhting wrong then. Isn't this hypocritical? > > BTW, can you quote Shri Mataji saying that SYs should not discuss > Her quotes? i sure would like you to quote Her. If you cannot then > just stop harassing others. It is not good for your Vishuddhi! > > > jagbir > > > shriadishakti , John Noyce <sahajhist> > wrote: > > Hmm. That was intended to be a private email, but as > > it is now public, I'll repeat my view, namely that > > attempting to summarise HH Shri Mataji on any subject > > seems unwise, but on such a complex interrelationship > > as the soul and the spirit ... > > J > > > > > > --- jagbir singh <adishakti_org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear John, > > > > This method of harassing members offline is unacceptable. If you > do not have the conviction that you comments will make > > sense online, please refrain from going after individual SYs. Over > > the years a number of SYs, especially from Australia, have > > complained that you are a control freak. i have to admit that by > your recent actions it is true what has been said. Please stop > putting fear in the weaker sex. That is not the way to treat a > sister who have not said anything to you and want to be left alone. > Can you just leave her alone please? > > > > jagbir > > > > shriadishakti , " kriptodanny " > > <kriptodanny> wrote: > > > > > > Dear John > > > > > > Please make an effort to express your personal opinions straight > > up on this forum.This is a bad habit to email people telling them > > about your evident dissatisfaction about their posts.Also,using > > words like,,be more careful,,..is not the best way to address > these issues,whatever in private emails,or open forums.Please > restrain yourself a bit,and if the pain of reading these posts > > becomes unbearable ,you can always suck up the pain,or post > > your wisdom on the subject,so others can comprehend it,and respond > to it. Also,please give us your personal interpretation of the > nature of spirit,soul,and chakras,since you are correcting > > people in private emails,yet refuse to add your 2 cents > > > worth in public forums. > > > danny > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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