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Dear Jagbir,

You wrote:

" So please

register and receive the best, straightforward and transparent

information available about Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi and Her Vision

for humanity. Thank you. "

 

Is it not rather contradictory to use adjectives such as those you

have used above, " best, straightforward and transparent " , and then

close the reading of the messages to the general public?

Shri Mataji's Vision for humanity is for everyone, and should be

available to everyone. To pretend that there are no arguments and

problems is both hipocritical and artificial. How can issues possibly

be resolved if anything controversial that is said is accused of being

negative and that person not a 'good' Sahaja Yogi? The person who is

not a 'good' Sahaja Yogi is the one who sees something wrong going on,

and who does NOTHING to stop it.

What kind of information is the world being given here? We have the

Divine Message being presented as Stress Release, the Truth presented

with deceit, people who try to be honest called negative, people who

preach love and forgiveness being cruel.I'm told we should not even

need rules, and then a whole lot more become introduced. Please think

about all these things very carefully.

Surely it can be seen that trying to create a 'perfect,

untarnished,let's pretend everything is wonderful' environment for

Sahaja Yoga is not going to get the Divine Message out, rather this

will hamper it even more? Should Sahaja Yoga, the message of Divine

Power, be dealing with problems by closing them out, by insulation

from the negative world? Yes, there are problems and unpleasant events

in the negative world. This is not about an isolated incident, this is

a general behaviour pattern that has become entrenched over the years.

 

Regards, Semira

 

Please do note, I state once again, everything I say is my opinion

entirely,and I speak out openly and publically. My only interest is to

protect the Divine Message.

[Guest guest]

, " semirafields "

<semirafields> wrote:

>

> Dear Jagbir,

> You wrote:

> " So please register and receive the best, straightforward and

transparent information available about Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi and

Her Vision for humanity. Thank you. "

>

> Is it not rather contradictory to use adjectives such as those you

> have used above, " best, straightforward and transparent " , and then

> close the reading of the messages to the general public?

 

Jagbir: There is no contradiction as you have missed the point. You

must understand that www.adishakti.org is where Shri Mataji's Divine

Message and Her Vision for humanity are explained in detail. This is

where the public is presented the Truth. The website is receiving

between 11,000 - 21,000 hits daily which is far higher than anything

a forum can provide. So the question of the public not reading about

the Divine Message does not arise.

 

The new forum is the " best, straightforward and transparent " among

Sahaja Yoga forums available. There is no contradiction as the

public can still read about the Divine Message if they just register

at the following link;

 

http://adishakti.org/forum/index.php

 

i do not see how they are prevented from knowing the truth. Asking

for mere registration does not constitute closing the forum to

public. The moderators have requested registration. What is so

difficult about doing so?

 

> Shri Mataji's Vision for humanity is for everyone, and should be

> available to everyone. To pretend that there are no arguments and

> problems is both hipocritical and artificial. How can issues

possibly be resolved if anything controversial that is said is

accused of being negative and that person not a 'good' Sahaja Yogi?

The person who is not a 'good' Sahaja Yogi is the one who sees

something wrong going on, and who does NOTHING to stop it.

 

Jagbir: There are sometimes difficult SYs who abuse others for no

good reason. So far only Danny meets this criteria as 99.99% of SYs

are not like him. We cannot have people like him disturbing the

peace and the moderators have decided the only way is to ban him. i

do not believe you are talking about anyone lese.

 

> What kind of information is the world being given here? We have

> the Divine Message being presented as Stress Release, the Truth

presented with deceit, people who try to be honest called negative,

> people who preach love and forgiveness being cruel.I'm told we

> should not even need rules, and then a whole lot more become

> introduced. Please think about all these things very carefully.

 

Jagbir: You cannot accuse those running the forum of not telling the

truth. You should ask those who present it as Stress Release for

doing so. i can't speak on their behalf.

 

The only rules of the forum are to respect others and treat them

with dignity. If there are none then we will have more Dannys to

wreck havoc.

 

> Surely it can be seen that trying to create a 'perfect,

> untarnished,let's pretend everything is wonderful' environment for

> Sahaja Yoga is not going to get the Divine Message out, rather

this will hamper it even more? Should Sahaja Yoga, the message of

Divine Power, be dealing with problems by closing them out, by

insulation from the negative world? Yes, there are problems and

unpleasant events in the negative world. This is not about an

isolated incident, this is a general behaviour pattern that has

become entrenched over the years.

>

 

Jagbir: Again, i cannot speak about problems at local collectives,

less know what they are. i have always said SYs are not perfect

angels .............. but they are self-realized than most of

humanity. But i can assure you most of them are far better than

Danny, if that is what you mean by a general behaviour pattern.

 

In the end it does not matter what others are like, or their level

of self-realization and consciousness. i believe and know that i

have to improve myself within while upholding the Divine Message and

proclaiming it to humanity. As Shri Mataji has said, we have to

introspect and judge ourselves. i believe there are more SYs today

who can say with a clear conscience they have been truthful and

transparent about getting the Divine Message out. This small group

can only grow larger over time.

 

regards,

 

 

jagbir