Farewell

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, " semirafields "

<semirafields> wrote:

>

> Dear Friends,

> It has not been my wish to upset or anger anyone. This will be my

last writing in this forum, as I have said everything I wish to say,

though I will still be reading. It is my sincere hope that one day

all these troubles will be overcome.

> Thank you for your tolerance, and wishing each of you all the best,

> Semira

 

 

Dear Semira,

 

Just meditate on the Divine Mother within. i want to add that you

should not associate yourself with Ishmael, which is not his real

name anyway. He uses this name to claim the tile of Kalki. Please do

not make the mistake of falling into his cult as a number of SYs

already have. i am making this plea as a concerned friend/brother

who value your spiritual gifts. Please keep yourself within the

boundaries of the Divine Message. Believing in Ishmael will harm

your spiritual ascent and take you away from the Light. i know what

is negativity (Evil) and how it battles good (Divine). You are still

not established and grounded in Sahaja Yoga. So do not have your

attention taken away by Ishmael/Jukka because they are claiming

themselves to be divine. Who has said they are incarnations - Shri

Mataji or the Devil?

 

regards,

 

jagbir

[Guest guest]

Hey Semira,

 

Take a chill pill. There is no need to get emotional

or go anywhere. Nobody is upset or angry with you

(even if thy were, i dont see how it makes a

difference). Just meditate, the world with all its

incarnations will make sense to you on its own....as

will everything else.

 

Love

Avnish

p.s Praise shri mataji in the sahasrar, praise her

with all your heart...and watch the divine bestow all

its blessings on you

 

 

 

--- semirafields <semirafields wrote:

>

>

> Dear Friends,

> It has not been my wish to upset or anger anyone.

> This will be my last

> writing in this forum, as I have said everything I

> wish to say, though

> I will still be reading. It is my sincere hope that

> one day all these

> troubles will be overcome.

> Thank you for your tolerance, and wishing each of

> you all the best,

> Semira

 

[Guest guest]

>So do not have your

> attention taken away by Ishmael/Jukka because they are claiming

> themselves to be divine. Who has said they are incarnations - Shri

> Mataji or the Devil?

>

> regards,

>

> jagbir

 

Uhum....What a lot of...

 

Excuse me, but this is going much too far. I AM NOT CLAIMING TO BE

DIVINE, is this understood?

 

Something like an apology would be correct way to solve this issue.

I am sorry if I have hurt anyones feelings, it's not my intention.

How many times do I have to repeat that I am just a human being, a

yogi, and not Jesus-Satan, Ravana-Nonsense-Enemy-Devil-something?

 

Some of you yogis twist the truth, that's your " personal problem " ,

and you lie there; because I am not claiming to be divine, so what

that makes you, what you think?

 

ANOTHER THING: I HAVE NEVER, EVER EXPRESSED ANY WORD OF DOUBT

TOWARDS MOTHER. There is no kalki-sect. You should overcome this

habit of talking lies and twisting the truth. It's not dharmic. It's

psychotic behaviour, typical of fanatically religious people. Stop

hurting innocent sahaja yogis.

 

There was a nice posting of the dangers of Tantra; it's more in line

of maryadas; proper behavious. Lying is definitely not. And stop

behaving like you were some sort of teachers and bosses; just try to

be like normal human beings, please.

 

Peace. Love.

 

Jay Shri Mataji.

 

Jai Shri mataji,

[Guest guest]

>> So do not have your attention taken away by Ishmael/Jukka because

>> they are claiming themselves to be divine. Who has said they are

>> incarnations - Shri Mataji or the Devil?

>>

>> regards,

>>

>> jagbir

>

, " jukkasavelainen "

<jukkasavelainen> wrote:

>

> Uhum....What a lot of...

>

> Excuse me, but this is going much too far. I AM NOT CLAIMING TO BE

> DIVINE, is this understood?

>

>

 

Dear Jukka,

 

Maybe you have stopped claiming yourself as divine but that Ishmael

has not. But why do you send his diary and photos to others? And you

have never admitted that Ishmael is just one delusional character

amongst tens of thousands of self-realized SYs. It is this silence

about your freind that makes me suspect birds of a feather flock

together.

 

And that Ishmael character has just taken that biblical name to make

himself special and claim the title of Kalki. Nuts like him should

see a shrink. And people like you should stop advertising on his

behalf and trawl for members on SY forums. Just leave us in peace so

that we can worship Shri Mataji. Stop wasting our time and attention

on pseudo-incarnations like Ishmael.

 

jagbir

[Guest guest]

Dear brother Jagbir,

 

I am happy you finally understood. So, I will say a word too. By no

means, I don't wish to disturb your worship; but I would like to

keep you from hurting our sahaja brothers and sisters. I'd like you

would understand there's equality. That we are all Her children; and

not just the moderators. Especially if these moderators are lying

and twisting the truth. I wished to cool down your aggressivity, but

I saw it's impossible; now all your forums are one Salem witch trial

where the best get judged and fools celebrate. You are so eager in

condemning your yogi brothers and sisters as " anti-divine " and " anti-

sahaja yoga " that you you have lost the capability to introspection.

You can't even see what you are, how you are, and what you are doing

in the name of Shri Mataji.

 

Why the sahaja moderators act like the Bolsheviks, declaring

everyone a counter-revolutionary? Why this intense need for purges?

 

She is our Mother, but for Christ's sake, you can not commit sins in

Her name. I consider it's blasphemy against the Holy Ghost and the

Son, to degrade your fellow yogis. Then you destroy all evidence by

deleting the messages.

 

It's not only Ishmael, my dear brother; there's a whole lot bigger

trail of blood following you. Now it was Danny, Semira, Furat, me..

I don't know how many yogis you have given a full kick to the face;

and most of them were just innocent - must be 20-30 sahaja yogis.

 

It might be just that it's you who have plans to hijack power in SY,

that's why you are making these accuses; as camouflage. Do you wish

to become the Stalin of SY, after the Lenin(Mother) goes away? How

big purges you will make then? Now we must all be afraid, - be

afraid because you abuse your moderator power, and bend sahaja yogis

under the terror. How will we have to be afraid then?

 

Just WHO gave you the right to behave like some BOSS of sahaja yoga?

Are you that much more intelligent than the rest of us? By what

authority you commit your purges, your revenges and persecutions?

Are you the st. Paul of SY?

 

Why you talk of yourself in plural? Do you think you represent ALL

of sahaja yoga in your personality? Are you our Pope? We don't need

any Popes around here. Many sahaja yogis have warned you, Jagbir,

and I warn you here - me too. Do liver treatment. Stop organizing.

Try to find more satisfaction from your personal life, you have

wonderful children, one would think it's enough to make you happy.

It will be ok, I care you like a brother. I critisize, and wish you

take it constructively. I don't mean to put you down, like you do to

me. And maybe you think it's easy to rule yogis, most are so weak-

willed, having not yet reached maturity.

 

If you wish to eliminate all strong yogis you must begin to build a

pretty big Gulag over there in Canada. I will do everything to

disturb you and your kind in this work. We don't need another

st.Paul; one was enough.

 

And now, let's not begin war, or tear each other to pieces; but bow

our heads to our Mother; and ask that center.channel Sahasrara

thoughtless calm to cool down all the personal vendetta.

 

With love,

 

Jai Shri Mataji.

Jukkaji