Guest guest Posted April 23, 2005 Report Share Posted April 23, 2005 Dear Friends, I open the sensitive topics so that as the Divine Message is on the brink of escaping the shackles of the organisation that has become like the Catholic Church, everything may be clearly faced and understood out in the open. I see absolutely no gain in avoiding unpleasant issues, hoping that everyone will forget about them in time. How is anybody to learn and gain understanding if there are to be topics that cannot be talked about? I also see no point in being threatened with being banned or ostracised because people are having some trouble with what I say. In case there is misunderstanding about my views, I will repeat some of them here; I believe completely and utterly in the Divine Message of Sahaja Yoga, in the Goddess WITHIN. I worship NO physical person, as you are trying to imply. All the deities are within each of us, and may manifest themselves to various people. What is the problem with this? If people are having Kundalini experiences, is it not more helpful to try to explain and clarify, than to attack, ridicule and condemn? Why can I not openly give my true opinion, why should I be afraid to do this? Yes, I know that Kalki is to be manifested in the collective consciousness, and that it is the second coming of Jesus Christ. This is the message of Sahaja Yoga, is it not; this IS the time of the second coming; of the Last Judgement. You will remember I had the dream of the water turning to blood-red, it HAD begun, and there was not much time until it would ALL be red. Why is everyone turning away from this in fear? We have to let the world know about the Holy Spirit within now. I fully realise the seriousness of what I am saying, and I stand by everything I have said. I have absolutely NO doubt. With love for everybody, Semira Dear Semira I have been trying to tell you something...that you cannot open such a sensitive topic like someone claiming to be Kalki,without making a clear statement about this issue.If you do not have yet the understanding,then why do you open the topic?...because Jukka sent you the photo of Ishmael?...I am sorry to disappoint you,but this proofs nothing.Because you had the dream about the ,,narrow gate,,..sorry again,this is no proof again.I wonder,as Jagbir does right now,why in the world Jukka would do such thing.(maybe if I send you my aura,you'll say I am Kalki?) Semira,I love you with all my heart,and my only concern is your evolution in sahaja yoga.(same for the others)But when I asked you ,,do you believe Ishmael is Kalki,,,your first response was,,what is Kalki,,??..I said...you know..the second coming of Jessus Christ of Nazareth..on the white horse,like it was prophesied in the new testament,you know?...and you said,,where,,??I had stop right there my sorry discussion with you,and I sent you some links about the subject..and some links about what Shri Mataji has expressed.Yet you refused to read them. So please make a clear statement that he is Kalki,and explain us why,or stop the subject.There in nothing to argue about. I am too tired of explaining you why.If is necessary,though,I will try to proof to you why. The identification of the ego with the ,atributes, of GOD emanating from the unconscious it's not a sign of progress,but a sign of debility...a trap... the reason Ishmael went nuts by doing this.End of discussion... danny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2005 Report Share Posted April 23, 2005 , " semirafields " <semirafields> wrote: > > Dear Friends, > I open the sensitive topics so that as the Divine Message is on the brink of escaping the shackles of the organisation that has become like the Catholic Church, everything may be clearly faced and > understood out in the open. I see absolutely no gain in avoiding > unpleasant issues, hoping that everyone will forget about them in > time. How is anybody to learn and gain understanding if there are to be topics that cannot be talked about? I also see no point in being threatened with being banned or ostracised because people are having some trouble with what I say. In case there is misunderstanding about my views, I will repeat some of them here; > I believe completely and utterly in the Divine Message of Sahaja > Yoga, in the Goddess WITHIN. I worship NO physical person, as you > are trying to imply. > All the deities are within each of us, and may manifest themselves > to various people. What is the problem with this? > If people are having Kundalini experiences, is it not more helpful > to try to explain and clarify, than to attack, ridicule and condemn? > Why can I not openly give my true opinion, why should I be afraid to do this? > Yes, I know that Kalki is to be manifested in the collective > consciousness, and that it is the second coming of Jesus Christ. > This is the message of Sahaja Yoga, is it not; this IS the time of > the second coming; of the Last Judgement. You will remember I had > the dream of the water turning to blood-red, it HAD begun, and there was not much time until it would ALL be red. Why is everyone turning away from this in fear? We have to let the world know about the Holy Spirit within now. > I fully realise the seriousness of what I am saying, and I stand by everything I have said. I have absolutely NO doubt. > With love for everybody, Semira > > Dear Semira, No one is trying to muzzle or restrict your freedom. The only issue at stake is your continued association with Ishmael and praising of his writings. Despite being told that this character claims himlsef to be Kalki you still persist in supporting him. Even though we have made it clear it is an anti-Divine activity you just do not see it as such. No one is turning away in fear. We just do not want you to advertise for Ishmael. He is a sick, deluded person who thinks he is the Second Coming of Christ. We cannot afford seekers being misled by him ............. or you. We are here to talk about Shri Mataji and the Divine Message, not someone who wants to impose himself as Kalki. Why have you made a mountain out of a mole-hill? jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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