Guest guest Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 Let's leave that all side. I am curious to know how you think about William Blake? I didn't have answer to this question. Why did moderators delete his texts, is he banned too? Jukkaji Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 , " jukkasavelainen " <jukkasavelainen> wrote: > Let's leave that all side. > > I am curious to know how you think about William Blake? I didn't > have answer to this question. Why did moderators delete his texts, > is he banned too? > > Jukkaji i am not privy to the moderators' decisions on the new forum. The same goes to why William Blake's text were deleted. i believe it is because you are reading his works through a rather large magnifying glass and trying to justify your own views. Quoting sheets of William Blake (or any author for the matter) and justifying it represents Shri Mataji's views is like looking through the wrong end of a telescope. What we SYs see is an insignificant aspect of Shri Mataji vision. But for you William Blake (and your Finnish authors, some of whom have gone all the way to Rome) is awe-inspiring .............. and those who delete his posts should be drawn and quartered on Earth itself. (i shudder to think of the punishments due to them for what you regard as blasphemous, or something to that effect.) By your own admission you know so little of the incarnations, religions and the scriptures. What do you think Sahaja Yoga and the Divine Message of Shri Mataji is all about? jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2005 Report Share Posted May 5, 2005 Jagbir wrote: " i am not privy to the moderators' decisions on the new forum. " Semira: Surely it would be more democratic and better run if you were. It is possible for people to disagree, or state their views in a discussion politely, without cruelty and degradation. At present it is not possible for anyone to have a friendly open discussion, or to share views in an honest and relaxed manner. Sahaja Yoga is about the internal transformation of an individual, and is not about being restricted into theories and texts, whereby the individual experience is obliterated. The new forum should be promoting discussion, not obstructing it. However can deeper understanding of our free spiritual self be attained by constructing barriers? Jagbir wrote: " The same goes to why William Blake's text were deleted. i believe it is because you are reading his works through a rather large magnifying glass and trying to justify your own views. Quoting sheets of William Blake (or any author for the matter) and justifying it represents Shri Mataji's views is like looking through the wrong end of a telescope. What we SYs see is an insignificant aspect of Shri Mataji vision. " Semira: I believe that in the deleted post of Blake's text there were no personal views stated, simply the text and some comments on Blake's life by outside critics. Clearly Blake is a realised author, writing with great insight on the difficult subjects of sexuality, spirituality and religious behaviour. If SYs saw in Blake's text an insignificant aspect of Shri Mataji's vision, well, then there would be no reason whatsoever to delete it. I put it to you that the text was deleted because it so obviously does not 'fit in' with the narrow-mindedness of the conditioned religious mind. The text was deleted because of the fear at the message contained in it. Jagbir wrote:'But for you William Blake (and your Finnish authors, some of whom have gone all the way to Rome) is awe-inspiring .............. and those who delete his posts should be drawn and quartered on Earth itself. (i shudder to think of the punishments due to them for what you regard as blasphemous, or something to that effect.) " Semira: I don't think that Jukka anywhere mentioned wrath and punishment for his posts being deleted. He loves the Poets, and their creations, it is as simple as this. Looking at the posting carefully, most of Jukkas posts have been defensive, against the attacks he got for stating his views. You surely must have noticed, Jagbir, the cruel and hurtful words of the moderators. To tell someone that they will certainly be going to hell, that their posting is nonsense, that they are not realised, that they are anti- sahaja, that they are negative, is surely not what the Divine Message is about. Is this not being rather judgemental, the very thing we are advised against? Jagbir wrote: " By your own admission you know so little of the incarnations, religions and the scriptures. What do you think Sahaja Yoga and the Divine Message of Shri Mataji is all about? " Semira: Yes, Sahaja Yoga and the Divine Message of Shri Mataji is about the incarnations, the religions and the scriptures, in all their entirety. We should not pick and choose which writings of realised souls fit in with our current ideas and personal barriers or not. We should consider the writings of all realised souls; they all complement the same message of the Spirit within, there is no contradiction of this. We all share the same vision, of the Divine Message reaching all individuals, that each may know the Truth, that the Adi Shakti is within each of us, unbound by the external illusions of the physical world. Let us try to be kind, patient and gentle with each other, and put disagreements behind us, without anger and bitterness. With much love, Semira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2005 Report Share Posted May 6, 2005 mahAbuddhih : The Great Intelligence. When the intelligence is directed towards her, nothing remains to be known. The Sruti [Cha. Up., VI. 1] says, " which, when known, the whole universe is known. " or, from whom one obtains the highest [mahat] intelligence. BhAskararAya's Commentary Translated into English by R. Ananthakrishna Sastry adishai_sahaja_yoga, " semirafields " <semirafields> wrote: > Jagir wote: > " i am norivy tators' decisns ohe new foum. " > > Sema: Surelt would democatic and bter run if you ere. It is poible for people to digree, or stt a discion polily, witut cruey and degration. At for anone to have a fridly open discion, or mnner. Sahaja Yoa is about he inrnal and xts, wreby the individuperience is obliterated. The new frum shld be proting > discuion, not self be atned by consucting barrs? > > > Jbir wote: " The samoes to why William Bke's ause you are reading his workhrough a rather large Quong seets of > Williake (or any auor for the matter) and jtifying it > represes Shri Matajiiews is an insignificanpect of Shri > Mataji vion. " > > Sera: I beeve thahe deleted post oke's text there > wee no personewscritics. Clarlake is a reased athor, > writing with greasight on the difficult subjects ouality, > spiritualitnd religioehaviour. Is saw in Blake's text Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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