Gurus From Hell, by GuruRasa Von Werder & Invitation

[Guest guest]

It occurs to me that there are many people who are disturbed by misbehavior

of Gurus. Now that I have presented myself as a Guru waiting to be

discovered by her clients, and I am ready to transmit shakti and Holy Spirit

to anyone who believes, people are asking questions and making comments. It

is not taken for granted that I am here as a do-gooder and well-wisher to

all that come. Gurus have proved themselves to be less than honest. They

have fallen by sex, greed, exploitation, manipulation and the like. They

have lied to their clients. How can I now prove to interested parties that I

am not one of the above, but more like one who has also been exploited, and

learned from the manipulators what a Guru should not be? Before anyone can

trust me and have faith in my guidance, they have some doubts that should be

cleared up - and rightly so. I firmly believe that each Guru should prove

herself as much as possible to the client, for as they say, " let the buyer

beware. " As far as proof of righteousness and right action, that will take

time. I do want to relate to victim souls and those who are suspicious -

that I have learned, from the Gurus from Hell, what I must not become.

 

http://www.womanthouartgod.com/gurusfromhellpart1.php

 

If interested please feel free to also join and post on our own :

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[Guest guest]

Rasa,

 

You are obviously deluded and need to see a doctor ASAP. Please stop

posting at this forum.

 

moderator

 

, <rasa@w...> wrote:

> It occurs to me that there are many people who are disturbed by

> misbehavior of Gurus. Now that I have presented myself as a Guru

> waiting to be discovered by her clients, and I am ready to transmit

> shakti and Holy Spirit to anyone who believes, people are asking

> questions and making comments.

>

[Guest guest]

US father murdered nine children

 

Wesson is said to have exerted tyrannical control over his family

A US court has convicted a man of killing nine of his children, many

of whom he had fathered through incest.

 

Marcus Wesson, a 58-year-old religious zealot who ran his family

like a cult, could face the death penalty.

 

He was arrested last year after police found nine bodies with

identical bullet wounds at his home - a massacre that shocked the

Californian town of Fresno.

 

Wesson's lawyers had argued that eight of the victims were shot dead

by his daughter, who then killed herself.

 

The victims ages ranged from one to 25 years old.

 

The jury took two weeks to convict Wesson on all nine counts of

murder.

 

It also found him guilty of 14 counts of raping and molesting seven

of his daughters and nieces.

 

Distressed police

 

Mr Wesson fathered children with at least four women, two of whom

were his own daughters.

 

His trial heard how he exercised a tyrannical control over his

family, forbidding the women from contact with the outside world and

presenting himself as a divinely-inspired preacher.

 

He told his family they needed to have " babies for the Lord " .

 

The shoot-out appeared to have been sparked when two women to whom

Mr Wesson had once been married went to his house to collect the

children, but he refused to allow them access.

 

It took investigators hours to establish the exact number of dead

because the bodies were piled up and entangled in a pile of

clothing.

 

Officers who had gone to Mr Wesson's home after being called over a

child custody dispute were so distressed at the macabre discovery

that some needed counselling.

 

All the victims had been shot through the eye.

 

No fingerprints were found on the murder weapon, and it was

impossible to determine who had fired the shots.

 

But the prosecution argued that even if the oldest victim,

Sebhrenah, had killed her younger siblings before shooting herself,

Wesson was guilty because he had encouraged her.

 

The court heard evidence from several witnesses that Wesson had told

his children repeatedly to be ready to kill each other if the

authorities threatened to break up the family.

 

Fresno, a city some 190 miles (305km) south-east of San Francisco,

was shocked over the largest mass killing it had ever witnessed.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4106038.stm

[Guest guest]

It strikes me that the statement you made is extremly uncharitable,

unkind and unspiritual. People could say the about those who think

your Guru is a reincarnation of the Blessed Virgin Mary and that you

are also deluded. But I don't believe that, I respect your Guru very

much and I would never say such evil things about her as you are

saying to me. You have no basis to make these ugly statments and God

will judge you for it.

[Guest guest]

Dear Rasa,

 

You will find this group, particularly this Jagbir character to be a

lowly sort of scholar. He does his best to cut and paste...he has

little real knowledge of what he is posting..It is obvious when you

ask him to clarify what he posts..he cant do it. He lacks Knowledge.

He is also a converted muslim fanatic. Who has turned his guns on

Sahaja Yoga. Can you imagine anyone in the world who is spiritual to

exploit his very own children for his own gain. A truely detached

loving yogi, would ENJOY his children not try to use them for his own

personal advancement in HIS OWN EYES. So combine the low level of

scholarship present here, along with the misplaced fundamentalist

attitude, little real knowledge, if he let anyone else speak some real

communication could take place. I tell you dont bother to waste your

time here.....dont feel bad except you have met with some of the worst

of what SY has to offer.....

 

Peace,

Sahajyogi

 

 

, " Rasa Von Werder "

<rasa@w...> wrote:

> It strikes me that the statement you made is extremly uncharitable,

> unkind and unspiritual. People could say the about those who think

> your Guru is a reincarnation of the Blessed Virgin Mary and that you

> are also deluded. But I don't believe that, I respect your Guru very

> much and I would never say such evil things about her as you are

> saying to me. You have no basis to make these ugly statments and God

> will judge you for it.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the compliments folks. Sorry i could not meet your high

standards of enlightenment.

 

jagbir

 

BTW, why are both you characters loitering at this forum anyway?

 

 

, " sahajayogi2004 "

<sahajayogi2004> wrote:

> Dear Rasa,

>

> You will find this group, particularly this Jagbir character to

be a lowly sort of scholar. He does his best to cut and paste...he

has little real knowledge of what he is posting..It is obvious when

you ask him to clarify what he posts..he cant do it. He lacks

Knowledge.

> He is also a converted muslim fanatic. Who has turned his guns on

> Sahaja Yoga. Can you imagine anyone in the world who is spiritual

to exploit his very own children for his own gain. A truely detached

> loving yogi, would ENJOY his children not try to use them for his

own personal advancement in HIS OWN EYES. So combine the low level

of scholarship present here, along with the misplaced fundamentalist

> attitude, little real knowledge, if he let anyone else speak some

real communication could take place. I tell you dont bother to waste

your time here.....dont feel bad except you have met with some of

the worst of what SY has to offer.....

>

> Peace,

> Sahajyogi

>

>

> , " Rasa Von Werder "

> <rasa@w...> wrote:

> > It strikes me that the statement you made is extremly

uncharitable, unkind and unspiritual. People could say the about

those who think your Guru is a reincarnation of the Blessed Virgin

Mary and that you are also deluded. But I don't believe that, I

respect your Guru very much and I would never say such evil things

about her as you are saying to me. You have no basis to make these

ugly statments and God will judge you for it.

[Guest guest]

Actually Jagbir, my standards of enlightenment are very very

relaxed. I will only call a spade a spade though.

We have an obligation and a duty to watch characters like you, as

much as i detest reading your posts i do so to be able to track your

dementia regarding your fundamentalism. We will have no Sahaj GULAG.

No PUNDITS IN MYSTIC clothing....... I will prevail as Allah's

prophet! IN PEACE AND LOVE~!!!!!!! I GUARANTEE THIS TO

YOU>...................

 

Yes i do , i guarantee god will prevail, even over you jagbir.

I will give you this, if you ever are able to step outside of

yourself, see yourself as others do.....you will not like it. you

will change. it is inevitable, but in the meantime, introspect or

something....you have already been squeezed out of most activity

concerning seekers and posting.....who do you think has accomplished

all this??????your watcher...Krishna, my Father....:-)Well i did do

one bandan....

 

 

regards,

Sahaji

 

 

, " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org> wrote:

>

>

> Thanks for the compliments folks. Sorry i could not meet your high

> standards of enlightenment.

>

> jagbir

>

> BTW, why are both you characters loitering at this forum anyway?

>

>

> , " sahajayogi2004 "

> <sahajayogi2004> wrote:

> > Dear Rasa,

> >

> > You will find this group, particularly this Jagbir character to

> be a lowly sort of scholar. He does his best to cut and paste...he

> has little real knowledge of what he is posting..It is obvious

when

> you ask him to clarify what he posts..he cant do it. He lacks

> Knowledge.

> > He is also a converted muslim fanatic. Who has turned his guns

on

> > Sahaja Yoga. Can you imagine anyone in the world who is

spiritual

> to exploit his very own children for his own gain. A truely

detached

> > loving yogi, would ENJOY his children not try to use them for

his

> own personal advancement in HIS OWN EYES. So combine the low level

> of scholarship present here, along with the misplaced

fundamentalist

> > attitude, little real knowledge, if he let anyone else speak

some

> real communication could take place. I tell you dont bother to

waste

> your time here.....dont feel bad except you have met with some of

> the worst of what SY has to offer.....

> >

> > Peace,

> > Sahajyogi

> >

> >

> > , " Rasa Von Werder "

> > <rasa@w...> wrote:

> > > It strikes me that the statement you made is extremly

> uncharitable, unkind and unspiritual. People could say the about

> those who think your Guru is a reincarnation of the Blessed Virgin

> Mary and that you are also deluded. But I don't believe that, I

> respect your Guru very much and I would never say such evil things

> about her as you are saying to me. You have no basis to make these

> ugly statments and God will judge you for it.

[Guest guest]

, " sahajayogi2004 "

<sahajayogi2004> wrote:

> Dear Rasa,

>

> You will find this group, particularly this Jagbir character to be a

> lowly sort of scholar.

 

Balwinder:

You malign the whole group as well as Jagbir with no basis

whatsoever.Leaving that aside - what has your contribution been since

you consider thus group + jagbir lowly?

 

He does his best to cut and paste...he has

> little real knowledge of what he is posting..It is obvious when you

> ask him to clarify what he posts..he cant do it. He lacks Knowledge.

> He is also a converted muslim fanatic. Who has turned his guns on

> Sahaja Yoga.

 

Balwinder :

Those who do not understand other true followers of Jesus Christ,

Prophet Muhammad, Buddha, Ram ,Shiva etc will definitely call someone

who upholds any faith a fanatic.If he can be considered a Muslim

fanatic so can I be considered one as well as a Hindu fanatic,

Christian Fanatic, Buddhist fanatic by your standards.

 

Can you imagine anyone in the world who is spiritual to

> exploit his very own children for his own gain. A truely detached

> loving yogi, would ENJOY his children not try to use them for his

own personal advancement in HIS OWN EYES.

 

Balwinder:

Since you seem to be so knowlegeble and have the ability to see what

other SYogis cannot see, could you kindly tell us how he " exploits "

his children and maybe even how his children feel about the

" exploitation " ?

 

So combine the low level of

> scholarship present here, along with the misplaced fundamentalist

> attitude, little real knowledge, if he let anyone else speak some real

> communication could take place. I tell you dont bother to waste your

> time here.....dont feel bad except you have met with some of the worst

> of what SY has to offer.....

 

A real Mother's devotee does not malign so many SYogi/nis and secondly

even if he/she does so it is backed by strong proof.Where is yours?

Rasa wrote " Now that I have presented myself as a Guru waiting to be

discovered by her clients, and I am ready to transmit shakti and Holy

Spirit to anyone who believes, "

If you believe what Rasa said and/or accept it then there is a

possibilty that you also do not believe Mother and also what She has

said about herself and Her message of false gurus in innumerable

lectures.Jagbir has ticked Rasa off and it was necessary on a SY

forum.Maybe you should try and post Rasa's mail on any SY forum and

see whether it gets posted in the first place.

 

Last but not least , a bandhan used for wrong reasons never works.

 

 

>

> , " Rasa Von Werder "

> <rasa@w...> wrote:

> > It strikes me that the statement you made is extremly uncharitable,

> > unkind and unspiritual. People could say the about those who think

> > your Guru is a reincarnation of the Blessed Virgin Mary and that you

> > are also deluded. But I don't believe that, I respect your Guru very

> > much and I would never say such evil things about her as you are

> > saying to me. You have no basis to make these ugly statments and God

> > will judge you for it.