could we please stop this

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, Avnish Bhagat

<avnishbhagat> wrote:

> Whoa People!!!

>

> I think you guys should really take it easy, this kind

> of behaviour really reflects badly on sahaja yogis.

>

> My own observation of the recent events is that Rasa

> was trying to share with us her point of view and

> beliefs. Just like a sahaja yogi would talk about Shri

> Mataji becuase he knows it is the truth, Rasa was

> sharing her truth. If someone wanted to convince her,

> im sure there is a polite way to do it.

>

> Jagbirs mail to her certainly was outrageously rude.

> If i were her, i wouldnt think twice about sahaja

> yoga. But still, there is no damage done that cant be

> forgiven.

>

 

Mr. Bhagat,

 

i have answered you at the link below, and Sahaja2004 as well since

both have come to Guru Rasa's defense.

 

http://www.adishakti.org/images_forum/bhagat.htm

 

And Guru Rasa, can you please verify it's authenticity i.e., the

information provided is exactly what you claim yourself to be? i do

not want Bhagat and Sahaji2004 to claim innocense by reason of

being legally blind. i will have to mull over their ignorance by

reason of raging hormones plea (man, some high-priced American

lawyers have envious fertile imaginations).

 

But i have to forewarn that such a plea bargain will, of course,

confirm both were lying all along i.e., they were never blind and

knew Rasa quite intimately. Thanks for the entertainment and spicing

up this rather bland forum.

 

 

jagbir

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I posted this 12 hrs ago not knowing that the group has been moderated.

I hope it gets through this time

, Avnish Bhagat

<avnishbhagat> wrote:

>this kind

> of behaviour really reflects badly on sahaja yogis.

 

Balwinder:

Yes i agree that for SYs to support Rasa whose site promotes nudity

and also to twist facts and tell outright lies about Jagbir reflects

badly on SYs.

 

> " Sahaji " , As for his children and the exploitation

> remark, I have watched jagbir go ballistic on people

> asking him questions on the same issue.

 

Balwinder:

" Sahaji " never asked a question but made a false acusation.Bhagat ,

you are also now twisting facts or that you feel false accusations and

genuine questions are one and the same thing.Exxageration is a subtle

form of lying.

 

> Doctor Balwinder, nothing is to be gained by delving

> into Sahaji's remarks. How would you or anyone prfoit

> by reading such a nonsense critique? Have we really

> forgotten to forgive?

 

Balwinder:

Forgiving and loving is not problem with me.

At the same time, it does not mean that liars and fact twisters should

be allowed a free rein maligning others and as long as you are not at

the recieving end you do not bother.You may not bother when you know

for a fact someone is falsely accused or SY/Mother being mailigned

subtlely/directly but unfortunately i feel that truth must always be

upheld.

Also it usually appears that those who lie/malign person conveniently

hide behind pseudo-names .

 

Those who want the falsehood to continue on the net as well in real

life too become upset and they attack subtlely(saying we must not

react, forgive and let it be, just witness etc) or attack you directly

for doing so - but i take that in stride and keep speaking the truth

by either saying the truth or exposing the lie/false accusations.

 

If forgivng and loving is all about allowing lies to be perpetuated

and not to be rebutted Mr Bhagat, please count me out as a forgiving

and loving person.

 

A quote which i cannot recollect exactly but i think it is " All that

evil needs for triumphing is for good men/women to do nothing on

matters that matter. "

 

Best Regards

 

Balwinder