Guest guest Posted June 30, 2005 Report Share Posted June 30, 2005 , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org> wrote: > > i know She is always within me in my Sahasrara. i for one will > never be affected in any way if the physical Shri Mataji leaves. > Many SYs do not understand Her eternal nature. The day they > realize that nothing will disturb them anymore. So learn about the > Adi Shakti within your Sahasrara and meditate on Her at all times. > That is where Shri Mataji was and will always remain long after > She leaves Earth. The faster you realize this truth the least you > will affected when Shri Mataji leaves. She will live within us for > the rest of our lives. > > According to Jesus, the Comforter " will abide with us forever " > (John 14:16). Shri Mataji will abide within and guide us for the > rest of our lives. The Adi Shakti and Her Divine Message to > humanity will triumph. So please be at peace and not react anymore. > > > Jai Shri Mataji, > > > jagbir > i have copied a post regarding the Shakti to open the minds of those SYs who roar like lions in private but squeak like mice in public. By this i mean most SYs proclaim and revere Her as the Adi Shakti durings pujas/meditation but quickly reduce Her as a great subtle system teacher in public/internet. ------------------------- " devi_bhakta " <devi_bhakta Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:29 pm Is Shaktism 'Special'? Thanks, Msbauju: Another lovely quote. But I wonder, could these observations be applied to any conception of the Divine, or are they more or less specific to Devi and Her worship? Chidananda says, " Without Her grace, most difficult it is to get an opportunity to think of Her, to remember Her, to speak of Her, and to utter Her glorious names, calling upon Her as Mother. " Ramakrishna says that only " through Her grace [does a person's mind] turn toward Herself. " But is all this just the typical sentiment of many faiths around the world -- that its own adherents are somehow special, " chosen " people? Or is this something entirely different? I've been told by many knowledgeable and experienced sadhaks that Devi chooses very, very few to worship Her as Supreme -- rather than simply as consort of some form of Vishnu or Siva (a theory seemingly supported by the proportional tiny-ness of Shaktism compared to the other major schools of Hinduism). But I wonder why this is? Why do these two great sages quoted above agree that it " most difficult " to " become devoted to the Lotus Feet of the Divine Mother " ? Why does the " grace " that " turns the mind toward Herself " apparently descend upon so few? Just curious, in case anyone wishes to share their thoughts ... DB ---------------------------- Regarding WCASY, we have been told that " it may take a couple of years for the Council to reach its cruising speed. " (BTW, does anyone know what is the master plan and blueprint for success?) In this age of instant mass communications and advanced technology it all sounds more like a trundling bullock-cart than a roaring Porche 911. If past years and effort to attract seekers can be used as a yardstick to measure success my infamous 8023 AD mathematical calculation is more fact than fiction. Maybe they should take notes from members of WCAI (World Council For The Advancement Of IAMS) who have advanced Amma in proportion that SYs have balked. When it comes to announcing Amma as the Divine Mother and Adi Shakti they beat WCASY hands down. Now where will these people be in a couple of years it will take WCASY to reach its cruuiiiising speed? i sure hope bulls can run faster in future .......... and sustain that pace to leave the Porche in the dung. jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2005 Report Share Posted July 8, 2005 , " jagbir singh " <adishakti_org> wrote: > > i have copied a post regarding the Shakti to open the minds of > those SYs who roar like lions in private but squeak like mice in > public. By this i mean most SYs proclaim and revere Her as the Adi > Shakti during pujas/meditation but quickly reduce Her as a great > subtle system teacher in public/internet. > Dear All, i think few SYs realize the damage self-inflicted wounds of deception have caused. Below is a quote of an email yesterday from a SY who had the great fortune to persevere till he realized who Shri Mataji really is. " Of course i was not told at first that Shri Mataji is devine incarnation. Actually when i asked my friend, who told me about SY, if Shri Mataji is a persone similar to Jesus he replied no. And i guess i came alone to the ideea that Shri Mataji is a devine person. " To this really lucky SY i want to tell you that this is a problem that plagues many collectives. i am saying that you are lucky because most seekers quit as soon they realize Shri Mataji is just another guru. Even if you had repeatedly asked no one would have told you the truth. i also was told at a public program not to reveal Shri Mataji's identity, despite a seeker begging over and over, " Please tell me who Shri Mataji is. " This Polish lady was helped by Shri Mataji and she had the common sense to realize that Mother is not what these SYs were telling her. Despite all her pleas the SYs kept repeating that Shri Mataji is a great guru. In the end this Polish lady, who despite being very impressed by Her powers, left and never returned. But why did your SY friend have to lie? Why are SYs forced to be dishonest even about Shri Mataji? Why are they hypocritically roaring in private but squeaking in public? What sort of negativity is this that compels even conscientious disciples to lie in public? The above questions forced me very early in Sahaja Yoga to question those in authority the reasons for this deception. Despite all my efforts i never got any answer except the parrot-like brush-off, " Just give self-realization. Just give self-realization. Just give self-realization. " Can you believe it - no management SY can tell us why we should be liars in public and saints in private? And when you are dishonest what does that do to your spiritual progress, confidence, conscience? And all this is only about not telling others that Shri Mataji is a divine personality. It has nothing to do with the Divine Message which seems to be regarded as a taboo subject, even in private. Since SYs do not even tell new seekers who Shri Mataji really is why should anyone in the right frame of mind meditate on Her? Why should any sane seeker use a subtle system teacher's photo to meditate when he/she have thousands others to choose from? In the first place, do subtle system teachers ask their pupils to use their photo for meditation? i know management SYs have tried their best over the years to close the websites/forums but Shri Mataji has told them i am not doing anything wrong. Now they are putting pressure on those who help sustain the forum. Maybe my criticism is to much for them to bear but i have reached a point where nothing on Earth will stop me from telling the truth. They should take comfort that at least the websites/forums are honest and straightforward, a quality that continues to impress many non-SYs visitors. Unlike management SYs, thousands of weekly visitors do not find the Divine Message offensive or subject it to ridicule since the websites were set up 1- 1-2000. Five years is indeed a long time for the feared worldwide media/public backlash to materialize, a frightening reaction that was initially hyped by management SYs to close the websites. i really cannot say the same about other SY websites because they are told to hide the truth from public. Since i refused to do the same i had no choice but to leave the collective. Truly, it has been a blessing in disguise because it has kept my integrity intact. i sleep deep and peacefully every night because my conscience is clear. But far more important than my personal comfort is the truth that Shri Mataji is the Messiah sent to deliver the Good News of the Last Judgment and Resurrection is protected for all times now. i will never bow to any authority who wants to suppress the very heart and soul of Sahaja Yoga. And unlike some SYs, i will tell all that Shri Mataji is more than a divine personality. So does all this make me a non-SY? Yes, according to management SYs who have now begun to spread their verdict to their collectives. Thanks for that judgment. regards, jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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