Guest guest Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 (this has been copied & pasted from Shri Adi Shakti Forum Index)... (This person whose identity i will not reveal responds and asks further questions of a Pentecostal nature...) Question: " G'day and JSM Violet Sorry for the late reply. Thanks much for the replies. I now understand better the purpose of Puja but yes there is still that conditioned mind that needs a little " deconditioning " One question I have is on the speaking of tongues..just curious as to the source of the tongues..is it of the holy spirit or a symptom of possession?? Why must people faint or fall down after being touched by one of the pastors/priests? Thanks. Answer... i understand that puja is a very different form of worship to what christian people are used to. It is possible that over time there may be a bit more give and take in the form of the puja to make it more easily acceptable to christians and muslims and others. Or it could go the opposite way, whereby all religions meld into a more universal culture where the puja becomes universally acceptable and understood for what it really is and means. Only time will tell. About the speaking in tongues... The source of the speaking in tongues on the Day of Pentecost when the Disciples of Jesus spoke in different languages or 'tongues' so all surrounding peoples could understand the message from these realized enlightened disciples of Christ was a gift of the Holy Spirit to spread the Message of the Resurrection far and wide. The Pentecostal 'speaking in tongues' is called glossolalia. 'Gloss (o) - is a Greek word element meaning 'tongue'... and 'lalia' refers to 'speech or babble'. The dictionary definition of the word glossolalia is 'gibberish that simulates coherent speech'. i have seen it happen as a result of a pentecostal minister putting his hand on a person's head and an energy goes into the head which is supposed to be the spirit of God. One has to ask, does the spirit of God make one talk incoherently or talk gibberish. i have not seen one person who received their self-realization or Baptism of the Holy Spirit and felt the Cool Breeze of the Holy Ghost in Sahaja Yoga, subsequently talk in different tongues. In fact, to have done so, would have been a shock to anyone to see that. In SY, yes, they would probably think some sort of spirit got into them but definitely not the Holy Spirit. When a person is fainting and falling this is not natural, so why should we think it any different if it takes place in a building callled a 'church'. Did Jesus ever make a person faint and fall down? Not in my recollection. And yet if anybody had the power to save and heal, Jesus did and i have never read of any stories in the Bible where Jesus's touch made anyone faint or speak gibberish. Fainting and falling down is something that happens to someone who has an epileptic fit or who has Turets Syndrome, or some other thing. Fainting and falling is always a sign that something has gone wrong in the body. There has been something interfering in the brain so it does not function normally. Similarly, when a minister has put his hand on someone's head and they faint and fall down, he is the vehicle for an interference in the normal processes of the conscious functioning of that person. Also, talking in gibberish is not a normal occurence for a person unless there is some brain disturbance, such as someone putting something into the brain. The Spirit of God does not disturb a person's brain but rather brings relaxation, peace and enhances a person and balances them so they are very present to all that happens, instead of fainting. By the way, it might interest you to know that traditional Fundamentalist Christian Churches when i was in them, did not agree with the " speaking in tongues " bit. They warned against the rise of Pentecostalism... that it was an aberration and not 'kosher'. i did not believe them then. i do know now that they were right. I hope this helps. Violet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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