Spiritual treason is to desecrate Divine Truth and actively encourage others

[Guest guest]

, " violet_tubb "

<vtubb@b...> wrote:

>

> Below is the Great Message of Shri Mataji to all Sahaja Yogis...

>

> SAYINGS OF SHRI MATAJI

>

> THE GREAT MESSAGE...

>

> " Tell all the nations and tell all the people, all over, the great

> message - that the time of Resurrection is Here. Now, at this time,

> and that you all are capable of doing it. You are the ones who are

> capable of manifesting God's joy on this earth. You are the

> flutes, which are going to play the Melody of God. I am doing all

> this to perfect you to the " most " beautiful instruments of God.

> Like the ship is built, is brought to the sea, tried, and found

> out to be sea-worthy to sail out, when you know everything about

> the ship, everything about the sea. With complete freedom and

> wisdom, you have to sail now. Not afraid of any storms or any

> gales or any typhoons because now all you 'know'. Your job is to

> cross through.

>

> You become the Ocean, you become the Moon, you become the Sun, you

> become the Earth, you become the Ether, the firmament - and you

> become, the Spirit. You work for all of them. All the stars and

> universes you become, and take up their work.

>

> (Australian Sahaja Newsletter - 2 June 1995)

>

> When i read the Great Message, it says, " Tell all the nations and

> tell all the people, all over, the Great Message - that the Time of

> Resurrection is Here. " I remember the warning from Shri Mataji to

> SY's (and i was present at that talk which i think was at

> Sydney Airport)... that if Her Great Message is not given inside SY

> Organization, it will come from outside of the organization of

> Sahaja Yoga. Shri Mataji was very relaxed and playful with Her

> Children when She said this, so of course, no one took it really

> seriously. i was astounded that Shri Mataji would say such a thing!

>

> Sadly, if official non-declaration of Her Great Message still

> continues and " all we have to do is give self-realization " , we may

> just have to accept that this will be the case. Shri Mataji's

> Message will go out regardless as She says nothing will stop it

> this time around (referring to other incarnations whose original

> divine messages have been diminished greatly).

>

>

> Violet

>

 

To all my SY brothers and sisters,

 

i wish to tell all of you that WCASY has met several times ever

since its inception July 2004 to discuss ways to spread the message

and vision of Shri Mataji. In all their meetings there has never

been a single instance of any council member even discussing the

Divine Message. Upon requests from members for suggestions on how to

spread the message of Shri Mataji not even a single leader brought

up the subject of the Divine Message to humanity, the very heart and

soul of Sahaja Yoga. Yes, not even _one_ member!

 

i am not making this up and I ask all of you to confirm if that is

indeed the case. Go and ask your leaders, facilitators and

coordinators if that is true. If any of these managemnet SYs

contradicts my accusation and say is not true, i challenge them to

prove me wrong. i _know_ for a fact that the Divine Message has

already been edited out of WCASY, the very body entrusted by Shri

Mataji to spread Her message and vision for humanity.

 

Saying so, i also challenge WCASY as to their own grandiose claims

to be constantly conscious, vigilant and protective of the Truth

that Shri Mataji has entrusted upon all SYs for the sake of

humanity, a sacred duty that WCASY wants SYs to believe it is

carrying out with honesty and integrity. This is what council

members want us to believe since they have dutifully self-imposed a

daily repetitive regimen of a vigorous mental exercise known among

its practitioners as the " Never corrupt or compromise the Message

and Vision of Shri Mataji Oath " . It must only be uttered at early

dawn and goes like this:

 

I, ......, in collective superior consciousness strictly with fellow

chosen ones only, must at all times be

 

" Always asking ourselves the following two questions in any

activities as members of the World Council:

 

What would Shri Mataji wish us to do?

Will it please Shri Mataji? "

 

 

i am truly moved by their valiant daily sacrifices, in the face of

mortal danger to themselves and their families, to uphold the Truth.

 

BTW, the above is the recent April 2005 " Code of Conduct of the

Members of the World Council for the Advancement of Sahaja Yoga " .

Below is a timely reminder to all council members as to what they

agreed with obvious fanfare and unconcealed pride just a year ago:

 

 

" Article 2. The Overriding Authority of HH Shri Mataji Nirmala

Devi

 

2.1 The chairperson for life of the World Council is HH Shri

Mataji Nirmala Devi Srivastava (the " Chairperson " ).

 

2.2 If at any time there is a contradiction or inconsistency

between these Rules of Procedure and any instructions from the

Chairperson concerning the functions and activities of the World

Council, then the instructions of the Chairperson will prevail. "

 

 

Before this grand opening ceremony of 2004 fades from memory i want

to ask WCASY whether Shri Mataji at any time objected to the

inclusion of Her Divine Message as one of the activities of the

World Council to spread Sahaja Yoga? To be more precise, i want to

know if any of you had in fact the conscience to suggest it in the

first place?

 

I am asking all these awkward questions since to suggest that all

council members have already edited the Divine Message would be

tantamount to treason. All self-realized souls regard spiritual

treason as a gross violation of the sacred duty and undimished

allegiance to uphold the Divine Truth at all times. To desecrate the

Divine Truth and actively encourage others to do the same more than

meets the definition of " spiritual treason " .

 

That, unfortunately, is exactly what i am accusing all members of

the World Council of. Not only have they abdicated their sacred duty

to uphold and protect the Divine Message at all times, even on

threat of death, but the rank and file are instructed to do so too.

The few not willing to compromise Shri Mataji's Divine Message to

humanity are labelled as " rebels' or " non-SYs " , summarily

excommunicated and shunned. Some World Council members have already

assumed and exercised such extra-judiciary powers while Shri Mataji

is still on Earth. Let this record (and evidence) stand for all

times!

 

Jai Shri Mataji,

 

 

jagbir

[Guest guest]

Dear Jagbir,

 

If what you say is true and WCASY have omitted/edited the Divine

Message out of Sahaja Yoga, this is bound to have very serious

consequences down the track; even in the immediate future.

 

The " All You Have To Do Is Give Self-Realization " line that is being

touted, however, seems to confirm what you are saying.

 

Your announcement to state this case for all time has resounded with

shock in my whole being.

 

Whenever the Mission and Message of a Divine Incarnation are

diminished, there is always the forces of darkness behind it

somewhere.

 

Shri Mataji has verily said that only a certain number of Sahaja

Yogis are real Sahaja Yogis. She has said that there are enemies

within Her ranks. We know of some of them who have come and gone on

this Stage of Sahaja Yoga. I imagine many more will come and go as

the Truth of the Divine Message exposes them, because as Shri Mataji

has said, the Truth will expose all that is false this time around.

 

We just have to stand up and be counted as Messengers of the Mission

and Message of Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi in all its fullness.

 

I would like to declare here and now that the instruction now being

given to Sahaja Yogis that...

 

" ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS GIVE SELF-REALIZATION "

 

....is an untruth and a diminishment of Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi's

Message and that it is the forces of darkness who have the need to

so diminish Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi's Message to all Mankind.

 

Let this also stand for a record for all time.

 

Violet

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " jagbir singh "

<adishakti_org> wrote:

> , " violet_tubb "

> <vtubb@b...> wrote:

> >

> > Below is the Great Message of Shri Mataji to all Sahaja Yogis...

> >

> > SAYINGS OF SHRI MATAJI

> >

> > THE GREAT MESSAGE...

> >

> > " Tell all the nations and tell all the people, all over, the

great

> > message - that the time of Resurrection is Here. Now, at this

time,

> > and that you all are capable of doing it. You are the ones who

are

> > capable of manifesting God's joy on this earth. You are the

> > flutes, which are going to play the Melody of God. I am doing all

> > this to perfect you to the " most " beautiful instruments of God.

> > Like the ship is built, is brought to the sea, tried, and found

> > out to be sea-worthy to sail out, when you know everything about

> > the ship, everything about the sea. With complete freedom and

> > wisdom, you have to sail now. Not afraid of any storms or any

> > gales or any typhoons because now all you 'know'. Your job is to

> > cross through.

> >

> > You become the Ocean, you become the Moon, you become the Sun,

you

> > become the Earth, you become the Ether, the firmament - and you

> > become, the Spirit. You work for all of them. All the stars and

> > universes you become, and take up their work.

> >

> > (Australian Sahaja Newsletter - 2 June 1995)

> >

> > When i read the Great Message, it says, " Tell all the nations and

> > tell all the people, all over, the Great Message - that the Time

of

> > Resurrection is Here. " I remember the warning from Shri Mataji to

> > SY's (and i was present at that talk which i think was at

> > Sydney Airport)... that if Her Great Message is not given inside

SY

> > Organization, it will come from outside of the organization of

> > Sahaja Yoga. Shri Mataji was very relaxed and playful with Her

> > Children when She said this, so of course, no one took it really

> > seriously. i was astounded that Shri Mataji would say such a

thing!

> >

> > Sadly, if official non-declaration of Her Great Message still

> > continues and " all we have to do is give self-realization " , we

may

> > just have to accept that this will be the case. Shri Mataji's

> > Message will go out regardless as She says nothing will stop it

> > this time around (referring to other incarnations whose original

> > divine messages have been diminished greatly).

> >

> >

> > Violet

> >

>

> To all my SY brothers and sisters,

>

> i wish to tell all of you that WCASY has met several times ever

> since its inception July 2004 to discuss ways to spread the

message

> and vision of Shri Mataji. In all their meetings there has never

> been a single instance of any council member even discussing the

> Divine Message. Upon requests from members for suggestions on how

to

> spread the message of Shri Mataji not even a single leader brought

> up the subject of the Divine Message to humanity, the very heart

and

> soul of Sahaja Yoga. Yes, not even _one_ member!

>

> i am not making this up and I ask all of you to confirm if that is

> indeed the case. Go and ask your leaders, facilitators and

> coordinators if that is true. If any of these managemnet SYs

> contradicts my accusation and say is not true, i challenge them to

> prove me wrong. i _know_ for a fact that the Divine Message has

> already been edited out of WCASY, the very body entrusted by Shri

> Mataji to spread Her message and vision for humanity.

>

> Saying so, i also challenge WCASY as to their own grandiose claims

> to be constantly conscious, vigilant and protective of the Truth

> that Shri Mataji has entrusted upon all SYs for the sake of

> humanity, a sacred duty that WCASY wants SYs to believe it is

> carrying out with honesty and integrity. This is what council

> members want us to believe since they have dutifully self-imposed

a

> daily repetitive regimen of a vigorous mental exercise known among

> its practitioners as the " Never corrupt or compromise the Message

> and Vision of Shri Mataji Oath " . It must only be uttered at early

> dawn and goes like this:

>

> I, ......, in collective superior consciousness strictly with

fellow

> chosen ones only, must at all times be

>

> " Always asking ourselves the following two questions in any

> activities as members of the World Council:

>

> What would Shri Mataji wish us to do?

> Will it please Shri Mataji? "

>

>

> i am truly moved by their valiant daily sacrifices, in the face of

> mortal danger to themselves and their families, to uphold the

Truth.

>

> BTW, the above is the recent April 2005 " Code of Conduct of the

> Members of the World Council for the Advancement of Sahaja Yoga " .

> Below is a timely reminder to all council members as to what they

> agreed with obvious fanfare and unconcealed pride just a year ago:

>

>

> " Article 2. The Overriding Authority of HH Shri Mataji Nirmala

> Devi

>

> 2.1 The chairperson for life of the World Council is HH Shri

> Mataji Nirmala Devi Srivastava (the " Chairperson " ).

>

> 2.2 If at any time there is a contradiction or inconsistency

> between these Rules of Procedure and any instructions from the

> Chairperson concerning the functions and activities of the World

> Council, then the instructions of the Chairperson will prevail. "

>

>

> Before this grand opening ceremony of 2004 fades from memory i want

> to ask WCASY whether Shri Mataji at any time objected to the

> inclusion of Her Divine Message as one of the activities of the

> World Council to spread Sahaja Yoga? To be more precise, i want to

> know if any of you had in fact the conscience to suggest it in the

> first place?

>

> I am asking all these awkward questions since to suggest that all

> council members have already edited the Divine Message would be

> tantamount to treason. All self-realized souls regard spiritual

> treason as a gross violation of the sacred duty and undimished

> allegiance to uphold the Divine Truth at all times. To desecrate

the

> Divine Truth and actively encourage others to do the same more

than

> meets the definition of " spiritual treason " .

>

> That, unfortunately, is exactly what i am accusing all members of

> the World Council of. Not only have they abdicated their sacred

duty

> to uphold and protect the Divine Message at all times, even on

> threat of death, but the rank and file are instructed to do so

too.

> The few not willing to compromise Shri Mataji's Divine Message to

> humanity are labelled as " rebels' or " non-SYs " , summarily

> excommunicated and shunned. Some World Council members have

already

> assumed and exercised such extra-judiciary powers while Shri

Mataji

> is still on Earth. Let this record (and evidence) stand for all

> times!

>

> Jai Shri Mataji,

>

>

> jagbir

[Guest guest]

, " violet_tubb "

<vtubb@b...> wrote:

>

> Dear Jagbir,

>

> If what you say is true and WCASY have omitted/edited the Divine

> Message out of Sahaja Yoga, this is bound to have very serious

> consequences down the track; even in the immediate future.

>

 

What i am telling you is indeed true. The Divine Message is not on

the WCASY agenda though practically all other aspects of Shri

Mataji's teachings – subtle system, chakras, self-realization,

etc., – and the methods of spreading Sahaja Yoga – music, pamphlets,

internet, books, schools, corporations, etc. - have been discussed.

There is no mention of the Divine Message.

 

You are absolutely correct to say there will be " very serious

consequences down the track; even in the immediate future. " One of the most

serious will be that in future Sahaja Yoga will be tainted with falsehood and

dishonesty. New seekers will always ask why the rank and file SYs kept quiet in

the face of obvious ommission of the Divine Message. All this will only happen

if official SY websites continue to stall for time and resist pleas to admit the

real purpose and mission of Shri Mataji.

 

Like diabetes, the longer the silent disease of not acknowledging is suppressed

the more serious the damage. A day may come when the damage to vital organs of

the organization is irriversible. That is why i keep insisting SYs must be

honest and demand management SYs to publicly state the facts. There is still

time but the window of opportunity is shrinking in proportion the mindset is

fossilizing.

 

Shri Mataji may not live to see the day when SYs had the faith to openly declare

Her message to humanity. That would be the greatest tragedy, one that can never

be undone. So SYs must wake up and demand honesty and transparency of Her

message towards all seekers before it is too late. Please do not be taken in by

all the ongoing hype of having a public program here and another one there. Even

a million such programs will not change the fact that SYs cannot publicly stand

on their faith and truth.

 

 

> The " All You Have To Do Is Give Self-Realization " line that is

> being touted, however, seems to confirm what you are saying.

>

 

Why do you think you were told to quit both forums by the management

SYs? Others were told to do the same with orders apparently coming

from WCASY. That is when i started looking for World Council

decisions regarding the order given that you quit these forums. Not

only did i find that there was no such decision, which would have

been extra-judiciary any way, but more importantly discovered no

mention at all about the Divine Message. (Had there been no such

WCASY order to you i may never have stumbled on this fact.)

 

So the Aussie facilitators were actually hoodwinked by a council

member or two. That is why till today none of them have been able to

produce any written directive from WCASY. It was a bluff that

misfired when called.

 

i was quite disgusted by so-called self-realized souls resorting to

lies and deceit to prevent conscientious SYs like you from

supporting the Great Message of Shri Mataji. As far as they are

concerned all you need is to give self-realization. But to give self-

realization and inform seekers about the Divine Message as well is a

crime that calls for action against the guilty. It is only when you

talk about the Divine Message that management SYs knock on your door

and order you to stop. As far as they are concerned you can talk

about the subtle system and self-realization till you are blue in

the face. Just don't mention forbidden words like " Last Judgment "

or " Resurrection " .

 

 

> Your announcement to state this case for all time has resounded

> with shock in my whole being.

>

 

Actually i am still recovering from that initial shock. This is not

a bad dream that i can wake up from and will have to deal with it.

However, try as i may, i cannot fathom why managements SYs just do

not want to talk about the Divine Message. Why do they not want

humanity, the very people for whom the Great News is for, be told

about it? Why this pervasive official secrecy to prevent seekers

finding out about the Blossom Time?

 

Ever since i started to know about Sahaja Yoga i have been asking

the above questions. Despite all my efforts there is no SY or leader

who can give any answer. All i hear is this: " Just give self-

realization. " Not even so-called world leaders have an answer.

 

Thus when management SYs want to shut down forums/websites that dare

discuss the Divine Message i am at a loss for words. What are they

afraid of? Why don't they give me reasons that the Divine Message

must not be made public? But why do they hypocritically profess that

faith loudly in private only?

 

So how are we SYs to spread Shri Mataji's teachings when we cannot

openly talk about its very heart and soul? It just does not make

sense.

 

i am having great difficulties being associated with an organization that is

untruthful about its founder and Her message. The saving grace is that Shri

Mataji always said that Sahaja Yoga is a living organism, not an managed

organization like the Church. i am in fact contemplating how to only serve the

organism and refuse to have anything to do with, or submit to the authority of,

the organization as it is today. It is only a matter of time and meditation

before the Adi Shakti within will provide me with a way out of this predicament.

i am sure She will respond and help me overcome this obstacle as She has on many

occasions.

 

 

> Whenever the Mission and Message of a Divine Incarnation are

> diminished, there is always the forces of darkness behind it

> somewhere.

>

 

What else can we make out of all the sustained opposition against

making the Divine Message public? What is making management SYs and

their underlings label those spreading the Divine Message as " non-

SYs " ?

 

 

> Shri Mataji has verily said that only a certain number of Sahaja

> Yogis are real Sahaja Yogis. She has said that there are enemies

> within Her ranks. We know of some of them who have come and gone

> on this Stage of Sahaja Yoga. I imagine many more will come and go

> as the Truth of the Divine Message exposes them, because as Shri

> Mataji has said, the Truth will expose all that is false this time

> around.

>

 

That is true too. Just look at the number of leaders who have fallen

and continue to bite the dust. Perhaps the greatest to fall from the

apex is none other than Yogi Mahajan, the undisputed world leader

who wielded enormous power. This guy was so arrogant that he even

went against Shri Mataji's decisions that my children must remain in

Dharamsala. That he used lies and deceit to have his way made me

realize years ago that Shri Mataji is indeed having enemies within

Her ranks. Now that She has receded from public functions and

entrusted WCASY to carry on, i feel there may be one or two Yogi

Mahajan clones to carry on the disgraced leader's vendetta. Who then

is/are the council member (s) who have judged me a " non-SY " and

requested Aussie facilitators to pressure you to quit the forums? Is

this a sampling of the WCASY Love that is going to create Oneness?

 

 

> We just have to stand up and be counted as Messengers of the

> Mission and Message of Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi in all its

> fullness.

>

 

i am more than prepared to continue on my own to complete Her

Mission and Message. All we need is more SYs willing to do the same.

Management SYs should realize that the Shakti in the Sahasrara is

over and above everything, even Her incarnation as Shri Mataji

Nirmala Devi. She will get the Divine Message out in the open no

matter how many obstacles are put in Her way. She indeed is the

eternal Adi Shakti, the Holy Spirit or Ruh of Allah. All vibrations,

guidance and liberation have come, are coming and will come from

Her, and will continue for all eternity. All this will become

apparent when Shri Mataji leaves Earth.

 

However, since i am not a SY any longer according to the official

census this leaves me immune to their rules and regulations. i mean

such directives are only for those officially recognized as SYs. But there are

great benefits of such excommunication namely you can truly become your own

master and seek guidance/protection from the Adi Shakti within. There is no

other authority i need to answer to. As Jesus said, " You will know the truth and

the truth will set you free. " The knowledge, protection and guidance of the Adi

Shakti within is indeed liberating in all sense of the word. Maybe this is the

living organism that Her incarnation Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi talked about. It

is only from within that you can be truly liberated and be your own master,

finally free from the whims and fancies of management SYs.

 

 

> I would like to declare here and now that the instruction now

> being given to Sahaja Yogis that...

>

> " ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS GIVE SELF-REALIZATION "

>

> ...is an untruth and a diminishment of Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi's

> Message and that it is the forces of darkness who have the need to

> so diminish Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi's Message to all Mankind.

>

> Let this also stand for a record for all time.

>

 

Thank you for having the courage to follow the teachings of Shri

Mataji and not be cowed by management SYs to compromise the Divine

Message. The survival of Sahaja Yoga depends on truth and

transparency in spreading the Great News to all humanity. Look

around the world and you will realize that only such a universal

message will compel humans to looks up to the heavens again. Giving

self-realization to those who are first honestly told about the

Great Message will go a long, long way to emancipate humanity. All other methods

will fail because 99.999% of those given self-realization so far had no

knowedlge of the Divine Message ......... and left. Three decades of sustained

failures should serve as a stark reminder of the futility of suppressing the

Truth.

 

Jai Shri Mataji,

 

 

jagbir