Guest guest Posted August 14, 2005 Report Share Posted August 14, 2005 Dear Yogini, Thank you for your email. It is my policy to post quotes of private messages without revealing the person's identity in order to help other SY's. i would encourage you to post directly, even under another ID if you have any fears about posting directly. Violet Here is a letter i have received from a Sahaja Yogini, whose name i will keep anonymous, to protect her identity... Violet, > > You have already given the answer to all of your questions below with > this quote: > > " The main point is that you leave everything to Paramchaitanya in > your wisdom. If you cannot, then you have not felt the real > knowledge within you. " > > I am a good Sahaja Yogi(ni) who sees the hypocrisy of the WCASY. > Frankly, I don't believe that Shri Mataji formed it. It is > unnecessary, if the Paramchaitanya is guiding us. > > Perhaps the best course of action for us is to let the Paramchaitanya > do the work and we just watch the play. After all, we have all the > tools necessary - Havan, shoe beat, string burning, etc. > > I for one intend to give self-realization and help others to grow in > Sahaja Yoga - not in an incorporated organization but in the Sahaja > Yoga within themselves. That's the Sahaja Yoga I'm spreading. > > Regards, > (yogini) > > > > > , " violet_tubb " > <vtubb@b...> wrote: >> These are the Words that Shri Adi Shakti proclaimed when She >> Inaugerated Her Vishva Nirmala Dharma in 1995:- >> >> >> " We have started Vishva Nirmala Dharma " . >> >> " You are under the vision of Shri Ganesha, under the guidance of >> your Spirit, >> and under the blessings of God Almighty. But be >> careful, because once you become that, you have to keep to that >> Dharma, you have to be honest about it. >> >> Sahaja Yogis today represent the growth of this universe, the growth >> of the >> human race. You will become like a lotus - beautiful,fragrant, >> overpowering all >> kinds of negativity. >> >> So let us now promise within our heart, that we are the people who >> are >> beneficiaries of the blessings of God, that we have got our >> realisation, that we >> have risen so high. " >> >> " But now let us spread our wings. " >> >> (The Australian Sahaja Newsletter - 4 August 1995) >> >> >> The whole universe was felt to stand still in rapt attention at this >> Divine Proclamation of 'Universal Pure Religion'. >> >> The name " Vishva Nirmala Dharma " also was registered as a non- > profit >> charitable/religious organization. >> >> >> Here is some background information about Shri Mataji's >> deliberations before inaugerating " Vishva Nirmala Dharma (Universal >> Pure Religion):- >> >> i was present when Shri Mataji told a group of yogis that She often >> weighed up >> in Her mind whether She should or should not form a religion and >> also what She >> should call it. Of great concern to Her, She said, was that it might >> be used in >> the wrong way as has been done in the past by previous religions. >> >> Shri Mataji did, in fact, deliberate for quite some time before >> coming to a >> decision. The past problems of religions and what the outcomes might >> be should >> She proceed, given the past record of religious organizers and their >> methods, >> weighed heavily on Her Mind. >> >> Shri Mataji proceeded with great courage, idealism, hope and faith >> to start >> " Vishva Nirmala Dharma " . Its meaning of " universal pure religion " >> was chosen very carefully by Her. >> >> And in Her Own Divine Words... encapsulated within Her Own Divine >> Pronouncement... are the Powers Named who will oversee us in this >> " Universal Pure Religion " and they are SHRI GANESHA, our SPIRIT and >> GOD ALMIGHTY. >> >> >> Shri Mataji also gave Her Charter for Vishva Nirmala Dharma to >> in the same year OF 1995. It reads like this:- >> >> " Tell all the nations and tell all the people, all over, the great >> message - that the time of Resurrection is Here. Now, at this time, >> and that you all are capable of doing it. You are the ones who are >> capable of manifesting God's joy on this earth. You are the flutes, >> which are going to play the Melody of God. I am doing all this to >> perfect you to the " most " beautiful instruments of God. Like the >> ship is built, is brought to the sea, tried, and found out to be > sea- >> worthy to sail out, when you know everything about the ship, >> everything about the sea. With complete freedom and wisdom, you have >> to sail now. Not afraid of any storms or any gales or any typhoons >> because now all you 'know'. Your job is to cross through. >> >> You become the Ocean, you become the Moon, you become the Sun, you >> become the Earth, you become the Ether, the firmament - and you >> become, the Spirit. You work for all of them. All the stars and >> universes you become, and take up their work. >> >> (Australian Sahaja Newsletter - 2 June 1995) >> >> >> >> Ten years later, in 2005, WCASY (World Council of SY) in their >> supreme wisdom, decide to " formalize " and " legalize " Vishva Nirmala >> Dharma in the United States and proceed to make a repeat > performance >> in declaring this occasion to be the Inaugeration of Vishva Nirmala >> Dharma under their new SMNDSYF (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi Sahaja > Yoga >> Foundation) Here are their words:- >> >> " We realized we were witnessing history--the first time a major >> world religion has been formally and legally brought into being with >> the direct guidance of the incarnation! With the generous support of >> Shri Mataji and Her family, the new foundation will have a solid >> footing. " >> >> Note SMNDSYF's statement of... " we realized we were witnessing >> history--the first time a major world religion has been formally > and >> legally brought into being with the direct guidance of the >> incarnation. " >> >> Please go back ten years to 1995, SMNDSYF! >> >> This was when the History was really made and Sahaja Yogis and all >> Universal Beings on Heaven and Earth were the Witness to Shri >> Mataji's bringing into being Vishva Nirmala Dharma (Universal Pure >> Religion) under the direct guidance of Her Very Incarnation and in >> Her Own Outwardly Spoken Declaration to Her Sangha. >> >> When a Divine Incarnation speaks it is different to when ordinary >> human beings speak. A Divine Incarnation's Word is Law and >> therefore " legal " . A Divine Incarnation's Word is also " formal " > when >> Declared. Remember the Words of Jesus (the reincarnation of Shri >> Ganesha)... " Heaven and Earth shall pass away, but my Words shall >> not pass away. " (Matthew 24:35.) This also applies to Shri Mataji's >> Declarations and Words. >> >> If Shri Mataji had wanted to so-called " formalize " and " legalize " >> Her ideal religion, why would She not have done so when She was in >> good health instead of waiting until She was too frail? She > pondered >> for a long while whether even to have a religion, because of > concern >> for what may be done with that by the subsequent organizers. So why >> would She not also have pondered about a possible SMNDSYF at that >> time, just to tie up loose ends? >> >> The answer is in the Holy Scriptures:- >> >> " Are we beginning to commend ourselves again? Or do we need, as >> some, letters of commendation to you or from you? >> >> You are our letter, written in our hearts, known and read by all > men; >> being manifested that you are a letter of Christ, cared for by us, >> written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God, not on >> tablets of stone, but on tablets of human hearts. >> >> And such confidence we have through Christ toward God. >> >> Not that we are adequate in ourselves to consider anything as > coming >> from ourselves, but our adequacy is from God, >> who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the >> letter, but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit >> gives life. " >> >> (2 Corinthians 3:1-6) >> >> >> The answer is:- >> >> " FOR THE LETTER KILLS, BUT THE SPIRIT GIVES LIFE. " >> >> Remembering, that at the Inaugerative Proclamation of Vishva > Nirmala >> Dharma, Shri Mataji said that you " are under the guidance of your >> Spirit. " Every Word Shri Mataji speaks, agrees with the Holy Books >> and Scriptures of past religions. >> >> And that is why i would venture to say, Shri Mataji did not form a >> SMNDSYF when in prime health, because " the letter kills, but the >> Spirit gives life. " >> >> This " formalization " and " legalization " has already cost us very >> dear casualties. The ex-leader of Russia, whom Shri Adi Shakti >> Herself picked, has resigned from the World Council due to the >> tactics of SMNDSYF, which he says he could not bear. He resigned > due >> to conscientious objections, as he could not be SMNDSYF's 'yes' > man. >> Here are his very sad words:- >> >> " Dear brothers and sisters! Sahaja yogis of Russia! >> >> I would like to use this only possibility to address to you all. The >> stage, when Divine Incarnation, Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, founded > and >> personally was in charge of Sahaja yoga, has finished. The time has >> come now, when without Her participation formation of a new > worldwide >> organization named Sahaja Yoga takes place. The new leaders, basing >> on their experience and beliefs emphatically suggested me to leave >> the position of leader of Russia and a member of the World Council I >> have been taking, as they need a completely controllable and easily >> directed from abroad candidate. I do not see possibility for myself >> to take part in such organization, as well as I do not want to fight >> and act with the same methods they do. Thus I leave the position I >> was given in 1999 by Shri Adi Shakti, as now a new organization is >> created, where I cannot be a leader, as principles of it's formation >> contradict everything taught by our Mother. I would like to thank > you >> for all your great love and support, which I felt for all these 6 >> years. Thank you very much for we together reached unseen spread of >> Sahaja Yoga in Russia and are second (in quantity) collective in the >> world. And in quality, I think, the first! I leave with clear >> conscience. >> >> With all my love and best wishes, >> ex-leader of Sahaja Yoga in Russia >> Perezhogin S.V. " >> >> The above letter is not passed on to rank and file yogis, because >> these things are now kept secret. This also is very different to > the >> way Shri Mataji did things. If She stood a leader down, She always >> gathered us SY's around, and told us about it and the reasons for > it >> as well. >> >> We do know, however, that those in the SMNDSYF have now given >> themselves official powers to 'hire' and 'fire' all SY's and > leaders >> who do not " toe their official version of the truth " . >> >> So i ask you, has Shri Mataji's Original Vision, Mission & Message >> been upheld? Or has it been hijacked by clever organizers? >> >> Violet >> >> >> >> Below is many Words of Advice given by Shri Mataji to SY's over the >> years. Judge for yourself, whether SMNDSYF have really taken these >> words to heart and acted by them:- >> >> >> Advice Given By >> H.H. Shri Mataji >> Gudi Padwa, 24 March 1993... >> >> " Leaders should be very careful. They should become free of all >> arrogance. They are only a communication link, like I have to put a >> letter in the envelope and post it. They should be careful of >> possessions. >> >> (Australian Sahaja Newsletter - 10 February 1996) >> >> >> " The main point is that you leave everything to Paramchaitanya in >> your wisdom. If you cannot, then you have not felt the real >> knowledge within you. " >> >> H.H. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi >> Navaratri Puja, 1998 >> >> >> " Paramchaitanya is looking after you. You don't have to make a very >> conscious effort, there's no need to have any conscious effort. >> Accept life as it is - as it is. Whatever life is there, accept it. >> Don't retaliate. Don't get angry. Don't get upset. Just accept. And >> you will enjoy the same life that was irritating you. You will see >> the enjoying part of that and it will be so beautiful the way you >> will see that you will get over all your problems. You will get > over >> all your enemies and a kind of very fresh, beautiful existence you >> will have... " >> >> (The Words of Shri Mataji - Sahasrara Puja 1999) >> Australian Sahaja Newsletter - 12 June, 1999 >> >> >> " The real knowledge is to know what is God.(...) It's God Almighty, >> who knows everything, who does everything, who enjoys everything. >> That is the one we should say is the gnyana, is the knowledge. It's >> the true knowledge, the pure knowledge. >> >> It is not the knowledge of chakras, not the knowledge of > vibrations, >> not the knowledge of Kundalini, but the knowledge of God Almighty. >> And the knowledge of God Almighty is not mental. " >> >> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi >> Shivaratri Puja 1991 >> >> >> Birthday Puja Talk (Synopsis) >> H.H. Shri 'Mataji Nirmala Devi' >> (New Delhi - 21st March 1998) >> >> How To Begin Your Sahaj Work... >> >> " Be confident. That is how it is going to work out. I am just a >> woman and a housewife but I was so sure about Sahaj yoga that it >> worked out. I did not have to think whether I should do it or not. > I >> just started. In the family it was not so much respected. I started >> on my own. Worked it out on my own. Because I had complete >> confidence in the Truth. So for you, it should not be difficult. >> >> All of you should see you are not a " conditioned person " and you do >> not have an " ego " . Then you should go ahead with it and then you >> will be amazed how it will be working. There are so many things I >> cannot tell you in this short time but if you sit down you can >> easily make a list yourself. Put your mind to it... in a way that >> you are the organizer. What can you do...what are you going to >> do...Please try. All of you can do it. " >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 Dear brothers and sisters, When l come to read our letters etc on this site - it was most inspiring and given me much joy and happiness to pass onto others. Then also witnessed my own faults, -normal things such as judging and being collective, witnessing, just from reading our letters of adcice and concerns. Am l so nieve to wish we can all just love each other,speak nicely,and can we make a collective effort to have compassion to those whom dont understand. If we can all be a little more collective-we have our trust or perhaps confidents for everything is in divine order. Please forgive me if l have spoke out of line, today l have had enough of negativity within myself, and due to circumstances know how important we are to each other and love has to win. JAI SHRI MATAJI! yours sincerely Johanna Mayne --- violet_tubb <vtubb wrote: Dear Yogini, Thank you for your email. It is my policy to post quotes of private messages without revealing the person's identity in order to help other SY's. i would encourage you to post directly, even under another ID if you have any fears about posting directly. Violet Here is a letter i have received from a Sahaja Yogini, whose name i will keep anonymous, to protect her identity... Violet, > > You have already given the answer to all of your questions below with > this quote: > > " The main point is that you leave everything to Paramchaitanya in > your wisdom. If you cannot, then you have not felt the real > knowledge within you. " > > I am a good Sahaja Yogi(ni) who sees the hypocrisy of the WCASY. > Frankly, I don't believe that Shri Mataji formed it. It is > unnecessary, if the Paramchaitanya is guiding us. > > Perhaps the best course of action for us is to let the Paramchaitanya > do the work and we just watch the play. After all, we have all the > tools necessary - Havan, shoe beat, string burning, etc. > > I for one intend to give self-realization and help others to grow in > Sahaja Yoga - not in an incorporated organization but in the Sahaja > Yoga within themselves. That's the Sahaja Yoga I'm spreading. > > Regards, > (yogini) > > > > > , " violet_tubb " > <vtubb@b...> wrote: >> These are the Words that Shri Adi Shakti proclaimed when She >> Inaugerated Her Vishva Nirmala Dharma in 1995:- >> >> >> " We have started Vishva Nirmala Dharma " . >> >> " You are under the vision of Shri Ganesha, under the guidance of >> your Spirit, >> and under the blessings of God Almighty. But be >> careful, because once you become that, you have to keep to that >> Dharma, you have to be honest about it. >> >> Sahaja Yogis today represent the growth of this universe, the growth >> of the >> human race. You will become like a lotus - beautiful,fragrant, >> overpowering all >> kinds of negativity. >> >> So let us now promise within our heart, that we are the people who >> are >> beneficiaries of the blessings of God, that we have got our >> realisation, that we >> have risen so high. " >> >> " But now let us spread our wings. " >> >> (The Australian Sahaja Newsletter - 4 August 1995) >> >> >> The whole universe was felt to stand still in rapt attention at this >> Divine Proclamation of 'Universal Pure Religion'. >> >> The name " Vishva Nirmala Dharma " also was registered as a non- > profit >> charitable/religious organization. >> >> >> Here is some background information about Shri Mataji's >> deliberations before inaugerating " Vishva Nirmala Dharma (Universal >> Pure Religion):- >> >> i was present when Shri Mataji told a group of yogis that She often >> weighed up >> in Her mind whether She should or should not form a religion and >> also what She >> should call it. Of great concern to Her, She said, was that it might >> be used in >> the wrong way as has been done in the past by previous religions. >> >> Shri Mataji did, in fact, deliberate for quite some time before >> coming to a >> decision. The past problems of religions and what the outcomes might >> be should >> She proceed, given the past record of religious organizers and their >> methods, >> weighed heavily on Her Mind. >> >> Shri Mataji proceeded with great courage, idealism, hope and faith >> to start >> " Vishva Nirmala Dharma " . Its meaning of " universal pure religion " >> was chosen very carefully by Her. >> >> And in Her Own Divine Words... encapsulated within Her Own Divine >> Pronouncement... are the Powers Named who will oversee us in this >> " Universal Pure Religion " and they are SHRI GANESHA, our SPIRIT and >> GOD ALMIGHTY. >> >> >> Shri Mataji also gave Her Charter for Vishva Nirmala Dharma to >> in the same year OF 1995. It reads like this:- >> >> " Tell all the nations and tell all the people, all over, the great >> message - that the time of Resurrection is Here. Now, at this time, >> and that you all are capable of doing it. You are the ones who are >> capable of manifesting God's joy on this earth. You are the flutes, >> which are going to play the Melody of God. I am doing all this to >> perfect you to the " most " beautiful instruments of God. Like the >> ship is built, is brought to the sea, tried, and found out to be > sea- >> worthy to sail out, when you know everything about the ship, >> everything about the sea. With complete freedom and wisdom, you have >> to sail now. Not afraid of any storms or any gales or any typhoons >> because now all you 'know'. Your job is to cross through. >> >> You become the Ocean, you become the Moon, you become the Sun, you >> become the Earth, you become the Ether, the firmament - and you >> become, the Spirit. You work for all of them. All the stars and >> universes you become, and take up their work. >> >> (Australian Sahaja Newsletter - 2 June 1995) >> >> >> >> Ten years later, in 2005, WCASY (World Council of SY) in their >> supreme wisdom, decide to " formalize " and " legalize " Vishva Nirmala >> Dharma in the United States and proceed to make a repeat > performance >> in declaring this occasion to be the Inaugeration of Vishva Nirmala >> Dharma under their new SMNDSYF (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi Sahaja > Yoga >> Foundation) Here are their words:- >> >> " We realized we were witnessing history--the first time a major >> world religion has been formally and legally brought into being with >> the direct guidance of the incarnation! With the generous support of >> Shri Mataji and Her family, the new foundation will have a solid >> footing. " >> >> Note SMNDSYF's statement of... " we realized we were witnessing >> history--the first time a major world religion has been formally > and >> legally brought into being with the direct guidance of the >> incarnation. " >> >> Please go back ten years to 1995, SMNDSYF! >> >> This was when the History was really made and Sahaja Yogis and all >> Universal Beings on Heaven and Earth were the Witness to Shri >> Mataji's bringing into being Vishva Nirmala Dharma (Universal Pure >> Religion) under the direct guidance of Her Very Incarnation and in >> Her Own Outwardly Spoken Declaration to Her Sangha. >> >> When a Divine Incarnation speaks it is different to when ordinary >> human beings speak. A Divine Incarnation's Word is Law and >> therefore " legal " . A Divine Incarnation's Word is also " formal " > when >> Declared. Remember the Words of Jesus (the reincarnation of Shri >> Ganesha)... " Heaven and Earth shall pass away, but my Words shall >> not pass away. " (Matthew 24:35.) This also applies to Shri Mataji's >> Declarations and Words. >> >> If Shri Mataji had wanted to so-called " formalize " and " legalize " >> Her ideal religion, why would She not have done so when She was in >> good health instead of waiting until She was too frail? She > pondered >> for a long while whether even to have a religion, because of > concern >> for what may be done with that by the subsequent organizers. So why >> would She not also have pondered about a possible SMNDSYF at that >> time, just to tie up loose ends? >> >> The answer is in the Holy Scriptures:- >> >> " Are we beginning to commend ourselves again? Or do we need, as >> some, letters of commendation to you or from you? >> >> You are our letter, written in our hearts, known and read by all > men; >> being manifested that you are a letter of Christ, cared for by us, >> written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God, not on >> tablets of stone, but on tablets of human hearts. >> >> And such confidence we have through Christ toward God. >> >> Not that we are adequate in ourselves to consider anything as > coming >> from ourselves, but our adequacy is from God, >> who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the >> letter, but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit >> gives life. " >> >> (2 Corinthians 3:1-6) >> >> >> The answer is:- >> >> " FOR THE LETTER KILLS, BUT THE SPIRIT GIVES LIFE. " >> >> Remembering, that at the Inaugerative Proclamation of Vishva > Nirmala >> Dharma, Shri Mataji said that you " are under the guidance of your >> Spirit. " Every Word Shri Mataji speaks, agrees with the Holy Books >> and Scriptures of past religions. >> >> And that is why i would venture to say, Shri Mataji did not form a >> SMNDSYF when in prime health, because " the letter kills, but the >> Spirit gives life. " >> >> This " formalization " and " legalization " has already cost us very >> dear casualties. The ex-leader of Russia, whom Shri Adi Shakti >> Herself picked, has resigned from the World Council due to the >> tactics of SMNDSYF, which he says he could not bear. He resigned > due >> to conscientious objections, as he could not be SMNDSYF's 'yes' > man. >> Here are his very sad words:- >> >> " Dear brothers and sisters! Sahaja yogis of Russia! >> >> I would like to use this only possibility to address to you all. The >> stage, when Divine Incarnation, Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, founded > and >> personally was in charge of Sahaja yoga, has finished. The time has >> come now, when without Her participation formation of a new > worldwide >> organization named Sahaja Yoga takes place. The new leaders, basing >> on their experience and beliefs emphatically suggested me to leave >> the position of leader of Russia and a member of the World Council I >> have been taking, as they need a completely controllable and easily >> directed from abroad candidate. I do not see possibility for myself >> to take part in such organization, as well as I do not want to fight >> and act with the same methods they do. Thus I leave the position I >> was given in 1999 by Shri Adi Shakti, as now a new organization is >> created, where I cannot be a leader, as principles of it's formation >> contradict everything taught by our Mother. I would like to thank > you >> for all your great love and support, which I felt for all these 6 >> years. Thank you very much for we together reached unseen spread of >> Sahaja Yoga in Russia and are second (in quantity) collective in the >> world. And in quality, I think, the first! I leave with clear >> conscience. >> >> With all my love and best wishes, >> ex-leader of Sahaja Yoga in Russia >> Perezhogin S.V. " >> >> The above letter is not passed on to rank and file yogis, because >> these things are now kept secret. This also is very different to > the >> way Shri Mataji did things. If She stood a leader down, She always >> gathered us SY's around, and told us about it and the reasons for > it >> as well. >> >> We do know, however, that those in the SMNDSYF have now given >> themselves official powers to 'hire' and 'fire' all SY's and > leaders >> who do not " toe their official version of the truth " . >> >> So i ask you, has Shri Mataji's Original Vision, Mission & Message >> been upheld? Or has it been hijacked by clever organizers? >> >> Violet >> >> >> >> Below is many Words of Advice given by Shri Mataji to SY's over the >> years. Judge for yourself, whether SMNDSYF have really taken these >> words to heart and acted by them:- >> >> >> Advice Given By >> H.H. Shri Mataji >> Gudi Padwa, 24 March 1993... >> >> " Leaders should be very careful. They should become free of all >> arrogance. They are only a communication link, like I have to put a >> letter in the envelope and post it. They should be careful of >> possessions. >> >> (Australian Sahaja Newsletter - 10 February 1996) >> >> >> " The main point is that you leave everything to Paramchaitanya in >> your wisdom. If you cannot, then you have not felt the real >> knowledge within you. " >> >> H.H. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi >> Navaratri Puja, 1998 >> >> >> " Paramchaitanya is looking after you. You don't have to make a very >> conscious effort, there's no need to have any conscious effort. >> Accept life as it is - as it is. Whatever life is there, accept it. >> Don't retaliate. Don't get angry. Don't get upset. Just accept. And >> you will enjoy the same life that was irritating you. You will see >> the enjoying part of that and it will be so beautiful the way you >> will see that you will get over all your problems. You will get > over >> all your enemies and a kind of very fresh, beautiful existence you >> will have... " >> >> (The Words of Shri Mataji - Sahasrara Puja 1999) >> Australian Sahaja Newsletter - 12 June, 1999 >> >> >> " The real knowledge is to know what is God.(...) It's God Almighty, >> who knows everything, who does everything, who enjoys everything. >> That is the one we should say is the gnyana, is the knowledge. It's >> the true knowledge, the pure knowledge. >> >> It is not the knowledge of chakras, not the knowledge of > vibrations, >> not the knowledge of Kundalini, but the knowledge of God Almighty. >> And the knowledge of God Almighty is not mental. " >> >> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi >> Shivaratri Puja 1991 >> >> >> Birthday Puja Talk (Synopsis) >> H.H. Shri 'Mataji Nirmala Devi' >> (New Delhi - 21st March 1998) >> >> How To Begin Your Sahaj Work... >> >> " Be confident. That is how it is going to work out. I am just a >> woman and a housewife but I was so sure about Sahaj yoga that it >> worked out. I did not have to think whether I should do it or not. > I >> just started. In the family it was not so much respected. I started >> on my own. Worked it out on my own. Because I had complete >> confidence in the Truth. So for you, it should not be difficult. >> >> All of you should see you are not a " conditioned person " and you do >> not have an " ego " . Then you should go ahead with it and then you >> will be amazed how it will be working. There are so many things I >> cannot tell you in this short time but if you sit down you can >> easily make a list yourself. Put your mind to it... in a way that >> you are the organizer. What can you do...what are you going to >> do...Please try. All of you can do it. " >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2005 Report Share Posted August 15, 2005 , " violet_tubb " <vtubb@b...> wrote: > Dear Yogini, > > Thank you for your email. > > It is my policy to post quotes of private messages without > revealing the person's identity in order to help other SY's. > > i would encourage you to post directly, even under another ID if > you have any fears about posting directly. > > Violet > > > Here is a letter i have received from a Sahaja Yogini, whose name i > will keep anonymous, to protect her identity... > > > > Violet, > > > > You have already given the answer to all of your questions below > > with this quote: > > > > " The main point is that you leave everything to Paramchaitanya in > > your wisdom. If you cannot, then you have not felt the real > > knowledge within you. " > > > > I am a good Sahaja Yogi(ni) who sees the hypocrisy of the WCASY. > > Frankly, I don't believe that Shri Mataji formed it. It is > > unnecessary, if the Paramchaitanya is guiding us. > > > > Perhaps the best course of action for us is to let the > > Paramchaitanya do the work and we just watch the play. After > > all, we have all the tools necessary - Havan, shoe beat, string > > burning, etc. > > > > I for one intend to give self-realization and help others to grow > > in Sahaja Yoga - not in an incorporated organization but in the > > Sahaja Yoga within themselves. That's the Sahaja Yoga I'm > > spreading. > > > > Regards, > > > (yogini) > > > > Dear sister, Sahaja Yoga has entered a dangerous phase given the direction management SYs are taking in organizing the Truth and inducing others to believe that WCASY council members represent the Will of Shri Mataji. It will naive of us to forget history - those in power always organized a religion out of every messenger's teachings, forming countless conflicting churches, temples, mosques, synagogues, and gurdwaras. The masses just blindly followed these self-empowered representatives of the Divine — priests, pastors, reverends, bishops, popes, rabbis, clerics, imams, mullahs, shaikhs, ulema, ayatollahs, gurus, swamis, pandits, brahmins, acaryas, bhagwans, granthis, gianis, lamas, monks, dalai lamas. Few of the faithful were ever able to be their own masters in the real sense of the word as even they too belonged to one of the countless religious sect. None were able to embrace the teachings of all the prophets and scriptures. In the 1970's Shri Mataji came with the Great News and openly declared the Divine Message to humanity. Sahaja Yoga is but a by- product of the original Divine Message. Those management SYs jostling for power need the legal ownership of the name " Sahaja Yoga " to enforce their future will on all Her devotees. Since WCASY now own it you have little choice but to unwittingly empower them against your will. Next they will patent all treatments and meditation methods just like Bikram did. Even Shri Mataji's teachings will be strictly copyrighted. Only those willing to follow their organized truth will be able to use such material. The only way you can be free to be your own master is to simplify and protect the heart and soul of Shri Mataji's teachings i.e., spreading the Divine Message to humanity. Just tell others about the Divine Message and give them self-realization to continue on their own. All they need to do is to meditate twice a day and be daily conscious that the Last Judgment and Resurrection is taking place. There should be no need to do any external rituals like havan, shoe beat, string burning, etc. because the Mother Kundalini and Cool Breeze can by far take care of all problems. Compared to the later, all forms of cures and treatments pale in significance and effectiveness. Moreover these rituals will be rejected by most non- Hindus as they are not found in the Holy Scriptures. Many SYs think all these treatments are necessary because all these years they have been conditioned to rely on external aids instead of their internal spiritual powers. And if tomorrow WCASY decides to patent the treatments those not subscribing to their organized truth will not be able to use them without their permission. Thus simplifying the facts and self-empowering new seekers to be their own masters from the beginning is of paramount importance. This is the only way Shri Mataji's Original Vision, Mission & Message can never be hijacked and edited out by those claiming to be representatives of Her Will. For the past two weeks I have been able to meditate and reflect deeply on this issue as my computer went for a major repair. Those able to do the same will reach a level of awareness, joy and bliss as how the Paramchaitanya is working out the spread of the Divine Message. The only thing i can say with absolute conviction is that it is the Great News of the Divine Message to humanity, not Sahaja Yoga, that will gather strength in future and spread. i know many SYs will react against such a statement but please refrain. All you need is to climb higher up the mountain and confirm the same point of view. And when you are able to see so many management-controlled SYs walking around aimlessly on the plateau far below you will never look back again. You will be convinced in heart, mind and soul that you have truly lived to the highest standard and understanding of Shri Mataji's Original Vision, Mission & Message. Jai Shri Mataji, jagbir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 22, 2005 Report Share Posted August 22, 2005 JAI SHRI MATAJI! Thankyou, my Uncle, I do understand your clarity, and beginning to see it, l used to worry about this, but is ok. We cannot deny the true knowledge inside us, for it is impossible actually-is it! --- jagbir singh <adishakti_org wrote: , " violet_tubb " <vtubb@b...> wrote: > Dear Yogini, > > Thank you for your email. > > It is my policy to post quotes of private messages without > revealing the person's identity in order to help other SY's. > > i would encourage you to post directly, even under another ID if > you have any fears about posting directly. > > Violet > > > Here is a letter i have received from a Sahaja Yogini, whose name i > will keep anonymous, to protect her identity... > > > > Violet, > > > > You have already given the answer to all of your questions below > > with this quote: > > > > " The main point is that you leave everything to Paramchaitanya in > > your wisdom. If you cannot, then you have not felt the real > > knowledge within you. " > > > > I am a good Sahaja Yogi(ni) who sees the hypocrisy of the WCASY. > > Frankly, I don't believe that Shri Mataji formed it. It is > > unnecessary, if the Paramchaitanya is guiding us. > > > > Perhaps the best course of action for us is to let the > > Paramchaitanya do the work and we just watch the play. After > > all, we have all the tools necessary - Havan, shoe beat, string > > burning, etc. > > > > I for one intend to give self-realization and help others to grow > > in Sahaja Yoga - not in an incorporated organization but in the > > Sahaja Yoga within themselves. That's the Sahaja Yoga I'm > > spreading. > > > > Regards, > > > (yogini) > > > > Dear sister, Sahaja Yoga has entered a dangerous phase given the direction management SYs are taking in organizing the Truth and inducing others to believe that WCASY council members represent the Will of Shri Mataji. It will naive of us to forget history - those in power always organized a religion out of every messenger's teachings, forming countless conflicting churches, temples, mosques, synagogues, and gurdwaras. The masses just blindly followed these self-empowered representatives of the Divine — priests, pastors, reverends, bishops, popes, rabbis, clerics, imams, mullahs, shaikhs, ulema, ayatollahs, gurus, swamis, pandits, brahmins, acaryas, bhagwans, granthis, gianis, lamas, monks, dalai lamas. Few of the faithful were ever able to be their own masters in the real sense of the word as even they too belonged to one of the countless religious sect. None were able to embrace the teachings of all the prophets and scriptures. In the 1970's Shri Mataji came with the Great News and openly declared the Divine Message to humanity. Sahaja Yoga is but a by- product of the original Divine Message. Those management SYs jostling for power need the legal ownership of the name " Sahaja Yoga " to enforce their future will on all Her devotees. Since WCASY now own it you have little choice but to unwittingly empower them against your will. Next they will patent all treatments and meditation methods just like Bikram did. Even Shri Mataji's teachings will be strictly copyrighted. Only those willing to follow their organized truth will be able to use such material. The only way you can be free to be your own master is to simplify and protect the heart and soul of Shri Mataji's teachings i.e., spreading the Divine Message to humanity. Just tell others about the Divine Message and give them self-realization to continue on their own. All they need to do is to meditate twice a day and be daily conscious that the Last Judgment and Resurrection is taking place. There should be no need to do any external rituals like havan, shoe beat, string burning, etc. because the Mother Kundalini and Cool Breeze can by far take care of all problems. Compared to the later, all forms of cures and treatments pale in significance and effectiveness. Moreover these rituals will be rejected by most non- Hindus as they are not found in the Holy Scriptures. Many SYs think all these treatments are necessary because all these years they have been conditioned to rely on external aids instead of their internal spiritual powers. And if tomorrow WCASY decides to patent the treatments those not subscribing to their organized truth will not be able to use them without their permission. Thus simplifying the facts and self-empowering new seekers to be their own masters from the beginning is of paramount importance. This is the only way Shri Mataji's Original Vision, Mission & Message can never be hijacked and edited out by those claiming to be representatives of Her Will. For the past two weeks I have been able to meditate and reflect deeply on this issue as my computer went for a major repair. Those able to do the same will reach a level of awareness, joy and bliss as how the Paramchaitanya is working out the spread of the Divine Message. The only thing i can say with absolute conviction is that it is the Great News of the Divine Message to humanity, not Sahaja Yoga, that will gather strength in future and spread. i know many SYs will react against such a statement but please refrain. All you need is to climb higher up the mountain and confirm the same point of view. And when you are able to see so many management-controlled SYs walking around aimlessly on the plateau far below you will never look back again. You will be convinced in heart, mind and soul that you have truly lived to the highest standard and understanding of Shri Mataji's Original Vision, Mission & Message. 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