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Dear Yogini,

 

Thank you for your email.

 

It is my policy to post quotes of private messages without revealing

the person's identity in order to help other SY's.

 

i would encourage you to post directly, even under another ID if you

have any fears about posting directly.

 

Violet

 

 

Here is a letter i have received from a Sahaja Yogini, whose name i

will keep anonymous, to protect her identity...

 

 

Violet,

>

> You have already given the answer to all of your questions below

with

> this quote:

>

> " The main point is that you leave everything to Paramchaitanya in

> your wisdom. If you cannot, then you have not felt the real

> knowledge within you. "

>

> I am a good Sahaja Yogi(ni) who sees the hypocrisy of the WCASY.

> Frankly, I don't believe that Shri Mataji formed it. It is

> unnecessary, if the Paramchaitanya is guiding us.

>

> Perhaps the best course of action for us is to let the

Paramchaitanya

> do the work and we just watch the play. After all, we have all the

> tools necessary - Havan, shoe beat, string burning, etc.

>

> I for one intend to give self-realization and help others to grow

in

> Sahaja Yoga - not in an incorporated organization but in the Sahaja

> Yoga within themselves. That's the Sahaja Yoga I'm spreading.

>

> Regards,

 

> (yogini)

>

>

>

>

> , " violet_tubb "

> <vtubb@b...> wrote:

>> These are the Words that Shri Adi Shakti proclaimed when She

>> Inaugerated Her Vishva Nirmala Dharma in 1995:-

>>

>>

>> " We have started Vishva Nirmala Dharma " .

>>

>> " You are under the vision of Shri Ganesha, under the guidance of

>> your Spirit,

>> and under the blessings of God Almighty. But be

>> careful, because once you become that, you have to keep to that

>> Dharma, you have to be honest about it.

>>

>> Sahaja Yogis today represent the growth of this universe, the

growth

>> of the

>> human race. You will become like a lotus - beautiful,fragrant,

>> overpowering all

>> kinds of negativity.

>>

>> So let us now promise within our heart, that we are the people who

>> are

>> beneficiaries of the blessings of God, that we have got our

>> realisation, that we

>> have risen so high. "

>>

>> " But now let us spread our wings. "

>>

>> (The Australian Sahaja Newsletter - 4 August 1995)

>>

>>

>> The whole universe was felt to stand still in rapt attention at

this

>> Divine Proclamation of 'Universal Pure Religion'.

>>

>> The name " Vishva Nirmala Dharma " also was registered as a non-

> profit

>> charitable/religious organization.

>>

>>

>> Here is some background information about Shri Mataji's

>> deliberations before inaugerating " Vishva Nirmala Dharma

(Universal

>> Pure Religion):-

>>

>> i was present when Shri Mataji told a group of yogis that She

often

>> weighed up

>> in Her mind whether She should or should not form a religion and

>> also what She

>> should call it. Of great concern to Her, She said, was that it

might

>> be used in

>> the wrong way as has been done in the past by previous religions.

>>

>> Shri Mataji did, in fact, deliberate for quite some time before

>> coming to a

>> decision. The past problems of religions and what the outcomes

might

>> be should

>> She proceed, given the past record of religious organizers and

their

>> methods,

>> weighed heavily on Her Mind.

>>

>> Shri Mataji proceeded with great courage, idealism, hope and faith

>> to start

>> " Vishva Nirmala Dharma " . Its meaning of " universal pure religion "

>> was chosen very carefully by Her.

>>

>> And in Her Own Divine Words... encapsulated within Her Own Divine

>> Pronouncement... are the Powers Named who will oversee us in this

>> " Universal Pure Religion " and they are SHRI GANESHA, our SPIRIT

and

>> GOD ALMIGHTY.

>>

>>

>> Shri Mataji also gave Her Charter for Vishva Nirmala Dharma to

>> in the same year OF 1995. It reads like this:-

>>

>> " Tell all the nations and tell all the people, all over, the great

>> message - that the time of Resurrection is Here. Now, at this

time,

>> and that you all are capable of doing it. You are the ones who are

>> capable of manifesting God's joy on this earth. You are the

flutes,

>> which are going to play the Melody of God. I am doing all this to

>> perfect you to the " most " beautiful instruments of God. Like the

>> ship is built, is brought to the sea, tried, and found out to be

> sea-

>> worthy to sail out, when you know everything about the ship,

>> everything about the sea. With complete freedom and wisdom, you

have

>> to sail now. Not afraid of any storms or any gales or any typhoons

>> because now all you 'know'. Your job is to cross through.

>>

>> You become the Ocean, you become the Moon, you become the Sun, you

>> become the Earth, you become the Ether, the firmament - and you

>> become, the Spirit. You work for all of them. All the stars and

>> universes you become, and take up their work.

>>

>> (Australian Sahaja Newsletter - 2 June 1995)

>>

>>

>>

>> Ten years later, in 2005, WCASY (World Council of SY) in their

>> supreme wisdom, decide to " formalize " and " legalize " Vishva

Nirmala

>> Dharma in the United States and proceed to make a repeat

> performance

>> in declaring this occasion to be the Inaugeration of Vishva

Nirmala

>> Dharma under their new SMNDSYF (Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi Sahaja

> Yoga

>> Foundation) Here are their words:-

>>

>> " We realized we were witnessing history--the first time a major

>> world religion has been formally and legally brought into being

with

>> the direct guidance of the incarnation! With the generous support

of

>> Shri Mataji and Her family, the new foundation will have a solid

>> footing. "

>>

>> Note SMNDSYF's statement of... " we realized we were witnessing

>> history--the first time a major world religion has been formally

> and

>> legally brought into being with the direct guidance of the

>> incarnation. "

>>

>> Please go back ten years to 1995, SMNDSYF!

>>

>> This was when the History was really made and Sahaja Yogis and all

>> Universal Beings on Heaven and Earth were the Witness to Shri

>> Mataji's bringing into being Vishva Nirmala Dharma (Universal Pure

>> Religion) under the direct guidance of Her Very Incarnation and in

>> Her Own Outwardly Spoken Declaration to Her Sangha.

>>

>> When a Divine Incarnation speaks it is different to when ordinary

>> human beings speak. A Divine Incarnation's Word is Law and

>> therefore " legal " . A Divine Incarnation's Word is also " formal "

> when

>> Declared. Remember the Words of Jesus (the reincarnation of Shri

>> Ganesha)... " Heaven and Earth shall pass away, but my Words shall

>> not pass away. " (Matthew 24:35.) This also applies to Shri

Mataji's

>> Declarations and Words.

>>

>> If Shri Mataji had wanted to so-called " formalize " and " legalize "

>> Her ideal religion, why would She not have done so when She was in

>> good health instead of waiting until She was too frail? She

> pondered

>> for a long while whether even to have a religion, because of

> concern

>> for what may be done with that by the subsequent organizers. So

why

>> would She not also have pondered about a possible SMNDSYF at that

>> time, just to tie up loose ends?

>>

>> The answer is in the Holy Scriptures:-

>>

>> " Are we beginning to commend ourselves again? Or do we need, as

>> some, letters of commendation to you or from you?

>>

>> You are our letter, written in our hearts, known and read by all

> men;

>> being manifested that you are a letter of Christ, cared for by us,

>> written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God, not

on

>> tablets of stone, but on tablets of human hearts.

>>

>> And such confidence we have through Christ toward God.

>>

>> Not that we are adequate in ourselves to consider anything as

> coming

>> from ourselves, but our adequacy is from God,

>> who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of

the

>> letter, but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit

>> gives life. "

>>

>> (2 Corinthians 3:1-6)

>>

>>

>> The answer is:-

>>

>> " FOR THE LETTER KILLS, BUT THE SPIRIT GIVES LIFE. "

>>

>> Remembering, that at the Inaugerative Proclamation of Vishva

> Nirmala

>> Dharma, Shri Mataji said that you " are under the guidance of your

>> Spirit. " Every Word Shri Mataji speaks, agrees with the Holy Books

>> and Scriptures of past religions.

>>

>> And that is why i would venture to say, Shri Mataji did not form a

>> SMNDSYF when in prime health, because " the letter kills, but the

>> Spirit gives life. "

>>

>> This " formalization " and " legalization " has already cost us very

>> dear casualties. The ex-leader of Russia, whom Shri Adi Shakti

>> Herself picked, has resigned from the World Council due to the

>> tactics of SMNDSYF, which he says he could not bear. He resigned

> due

>> to conscientious objections, as he could not be SMNDSYF's 'yes'

> man.

>> Here are his very sad words:-

>>

>> " Dear brothers and sisters! Sahaja yogis of Russia!

>>

>> I would like to use this only possibility to address to you all.

The

>> stage, when Divine Incarnation, Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi, founded

> and

>> personally was in charge of Sahaja yoga, has finished. The time

has

>> come now, when without Her participation formation of a new

> worldwide

>> organization named Sahaja Yoga takes place. The new leaders,

basing

>> on their experience and beliefs emphatically suggested me to leave

>> the position of leader of Russia and a member of the World

Council I

>> have been taking, as they need a completely controllable and

easily

>> directed from abroad candidate. I do not see possibility for

myself

>> to take part in such organization, as well as I do not want to

fight

>> and act with the same methods they do. Thus I leave the position I

>> was given in 1999 by Shri Adi Shakti, as now a new organization is

>> created, where I cannot be a leader, as principles of it's

formation

>> contradict everything taught by our Mother. I would like to thank

> you

>> for all your great love and support, which I felt for all these 6

>> years. Thank you very much for we together reached unseen spread

of

>> Sahaja Yoga in Russia and are second (in quantity) collective in

the

>> world. And in quality, I think, the first! I leave with clear

>> conscience.

>>

>> With all my love and best wishes,

>> ex-leader of Sahaja Yoga in Russia

>> Perezhogin S.V. "

>>

>> The above letter is not passed on to rank and file yogis, because

>> these things are now kept secret. This also is very different to

> the

>> way Shri Mataji did things. If She stood a leader down, She always

>> gathered us SY's around, and told us about it and the reasons for

> it

>> as well.

>>

>> We do know, however, that those in the SMNDSYF have now given

>> themselves official powers to 'hire' and 'fire' all SY's and

> leaders

>> who do not " toe their official version of the truth " .

>>

>> So i ask you, has Shri Mataji's Original Vision, Mission & Message

>> been upheld? Or has it been hijacked by clever organizers?

>>

>> Violet

>>

>>

>>

>> Below is many Words of Advice given by Shri Mataji to SY's over

the

>> years. Judge for yourself, whether SMNDSYF have really taken these

>> words to heart and acted by them:-

>>

>>

>> Advice Given By

>> H.H. Shri Mataji

>> Gudi Padwa, 24 March 1993...

>>

>> " Leaders should be very careful. They should become free of all

>> arrogance. They are only a communication link, like I have to put

a

>> letter in the envelope and post it. They should be careful of

>> possessions.

>>

>> (Australian Sahaja Newsletter - 10 February 1996)

>>

>>

>> " The main point is that you leave everything to Paramchaitanya in

>> your wisdom. If you cannot, then you have not felt the real

>> knowledge within you. "

>>

>> H.H. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>> Navaratri Puja, 1998

>>

>>

>> " Paramchaitanya is looking after you. You don't have to make a

very

>> conscious effort, there's no need to have any conscious effort.

>> Accept life as it is - as it is. Whatever life is there, accept

it.

>> Don't retaliate. Don't get angry. Don't get upset. Just accept.

And

>> you will enjoy the same life that was irritating you. You will see

>> the enjoying part of that and it will be so beautiful the way you

>> will see that you will get over all your problems. You will get

> over

>> all your enemies and a kind of very fresh, beautiful existence you

>> will have... "

>>

>> (The Words of Shri Mataji - Sahasrara Puja 1999)

>> Australian Sahaja Newsletter - 12 June, 1999

>>

>>

>> " The real knowledge is to know what is God.(...) It's God

Almighty,

>> who knows everything, who does everything, who enjoys everything.

>> That is the one we should say is the gnyana, is the knowledge.

It's

>> the true knowledge, the pure knowledge.

>>

>> It is not the knowledge of chakras, not the knowledge of

> vibrations,

>> not the knowledge of Kundalini, but the knowledge of God Almighty.

>> And the knowledge of God Almighty is not mental. "

>>

>> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>> Shivaratri Puja 1991

>>

>>

>> Birthday Puja Talk (Synopsis)

>> H.H. Shri 'Mataji Nirmala Devi'

>> (New Delhi - 21st March 1998)

>>

>> How To Begin Your Sahaj Work...

>>

>> " Be confident. That is how it is going to work out. I am just a

>> woman and a housewife but I was so sure about Sahaj yoga that it

>> worked out. I did not have to think whether I should do it or not.

> I

>> just started. In the family it was not so much respected. I

started

>> on my own. Worked it out on my own. Because I had complete

>> confidence in the Truth. So for you, it should not be difficult.

>>

>> All of you should see you are not a " conditioned person " and you

do

>> not have an " ego " . Then you should go ahead with it and then you

>> will be amazed how it will be working. There are so many things I

>> cannot tell you in this short time but if you sit down you can

>> easily make a list yourself. Put your mind to it... in a way that

>> you are the organizer. What can you do...what are you going to

>> do...Please try. All of you can do it. "

>>

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Dear brothers and sisters,

 

When l come to read our letters etc on this site - it

was most inspiring and given me much joy and happiness

to pass onto others. Then also witnessed my own

faults, -normal things such as judging and being

collective, witnessing, just from reading our letters

of adcice and concerns. Am l so nieve to wish we can

all just love each other,speak nicely,and can we make

a collective effort to have compassion to those whom

dont understand. If we can all be a little more

collective-we have our trust or perhaps confidents for

everything is in divine order. Please forgive me if l

have spoke out of line, today l have had enough of

negativity within myself, and due to circumstances

know how important we are to each other and love has

to win.

 

JAI SHRI MATAJI!

 

yours sincerely

 

Johanna Mayne

--- violet_tubb <vtubb wrote:

 

 

 

Dear Yogini,

 

Thank you for your email.

 

It is my policy to post quotes of private messages

without revealing

the person's identity in order to help other SY's.

 

i would encourage you to post directly, even under

another ID if you

have any fears about posting directly.

 

Violet

 

 

Here is a letter i have received from a Sahaja Yogini,

whose name i

will keep anonymous, to protect her identity...

 

 

Violet,

>

> You have already given the answer to all of your

questions below

with

> this quote:

>

> " The main point is that you leave everything to

Paramchaitanya in

> your wisdom. If you cannot, then you have not felt

the real

> knowledge within you. "

>

> I am a good Sahaja Yogi(ni) who sees the hypocrisy

of the WCASY.

> Frankly, I don't believe that Shri Mataji formed it.

It is

> unnecessary, if the Paramchaitanya is guiding us.

>

> Perhaps the best course of action for us is to let

the

Paramchaitanya

> do the work and we just watch the play. After all,

we have all the

> tools necessary - Havan, shoe beat, string burning,

etc.

>

> I for one intend to give self-realization and help

others to grow

in

> Sahaja Yoga - not in an incorporated organization

but in the Sahaja

> Yoga within themselves. That's the Sahaja Yoga I'm

spreading.

>

> Regards,

 

> (yogini)

>

>

>

>

> ,

" violet_tubb "

> <vtubb@b...> wrote:

>> These are the Words that Shri Adi Shakti proclaimed

when She

>> Inaugerated Her Vishva Nirmala Dharma in 1995:-

>>

>>

>> " We have started Vishva Nirmala Dharma " .

>>

>> " You are under the vision of Shri Ganesha, under

the guidance of

>> your Spirit,

>> and under the blessings of God Almighty. But be

>> careful, because once you become that, you have to

keep to that

>> Dharma, you have to be honest about it.

>>

>> Sahaja Yogis today represent the growth of this

universe, the

growth

>> of the

>> human race. You will become like a lotus -

beautiful,fragrant,

>> overpowering all

>> kinds of negativity.

>>

>> So let us now promise within our heart, that we are

the people who

>> are

>> beneficiaries of the blessings of God, that we have

got our

>> realisation, that we

>> have risen so high. "

>>

>> " But now let us spread our wings. "

>>

>> (The Australian Sahaja Newsletter - 4 August 1995)

>>

>>

>> The whole universe was felt to stand still in rapt

attention at

this

>> Divine Proclamation of 'Universal Pure Religion'.

>>

>> The name " Vishva Nirmala Dharma " also was

registered as a non-

> profit

>> charitable/religious organization.

>>

>>

>> Here is some background information about Shri

Mataji's

>> deliberations before inaugerating " Vishva Nirmala

Dharma

(Universal

>> Pure Religion):-

>>

>> i was present when Shri Mataji told a group of

yogis that She

often

>> weighed up

>> in Her mind whether She should or should not form a

religion and

>> also what She

>> should call it. Of great concern to Her, She said,

was that it

might

>> be used in

>> the wrong way as has been done in the past by

previous religions.

>>

>> Shri Mataji did, in fact, deliberate for quite some

time before

>> coming to a

>> decision. The past problems of religions and what

the outcomes

might

>> be should

>> She proceed, given the past record of religious

organizers and

their

>> methods,

>> weighed heavily on Her Mind.

>>

>> Shri Mataji proceeded with great courage, idealism,

hope and faith

>> to start

>> " Vishva Nirmala Dharma " . Its meaning of " universal

pure religion "

>> was chosen very carefully by Her.

>>

>> And in Her Own Divine Words... encapsulated within

Her Own Divine

>> Pronouncement... are the Powers Named who will

oversee us in this

>> " Universal Pure Religion " and they are SHRI

GANESHA, our SPIRIT

and

>> GOD ALMIGHTY.

>>

>>

>> Shri Mataji also gave Her Charter for Vishva

Nirmala Dharma to

>> in the same year OF 1995. It reads like this:-

>>

>> " Tell all the nations and tell all the people, all

over, the great

>> message - that the time of Resurrection is Here.

Now, at this

time,

>> and that you all are capable of doing it. You are

the ones who are

>> capable of manifesting God's joy on this earth. You

are the

flutes,

>> which are going to play the Melody of God. I am

doing all this to

>> perfect you to the " most " beautiful instruments of

God. Like the

>> ship is built, is brought to the sea, tried, and

found out to be

> sea-

>> worthy to sail out, when you know everything about

the ship,

>> everything about the sea. With complete freedom and

wisdom, you

have

>> to sail now. Not afraid of any storms or any gales

or any typhoons

>> because now all you 'know'. Your job is to cross

through.

>>

>> You become the Ocean, you become the Moon, you

become the Sun, you

>> become the Earth, you become the Ether, the

firmament - and you

>> become, the Spirit. You work for all of them. All

the stars and

>> universes you become, and take up their work.

>>

>> (Australian Sahaja Newsletter - 2 June 1995)

>>

>>

>>

>> Ten years later, in 2005, WCASY (World Council of

SY) in their

>> supreme wisdom, decide to " formalize " and

" legalize " Vishva

Nirmala

>> Dharma in the United States and proceed to make a

repeat

> performance

>> in declaring this occasion to be the Inaugeration

of Vishva

Nirmala

>> Dharma under their new SMNDSYF (Shri Mataji Nirmala

Devi Sahaja

> Yoga

>> Foundation) Here are their words:-

>>

>> " We realized we were witnessing history--the first

time a major

>> world religion has been formally and legally

brought into being

with

>> the direct guidance of the incarnation! With the

generous support

of

>> Shri Mataji and Her family, the new foundation will

have a solid

>> footing. "

>>

>> Note SMNDSYF's statement of... " we realized we were

witnessing

>> history--the first time a major world religion has

been formally

> and

>> legally brought into being with the direct guidance

of the

>> incarnation. "

>>

>> Please go back ten years to 1995, SMNDSYF!

>>

>> This was when the History was really made and

Sahaja Yogis and all

>> Universal Beings on Heaven and Earth were the

Witness to Shri

>> Mataji's bringing into being Vishva Nirmala Dharma

(Universal Pure

>> Religion) under the direct guidance of Her Very

Incarnation and in

>> Her Own Outwardly Spoken Declaration to Her Sangha.

>>

>> When a Divine Incarnation speaks it is different to

when ordinary

>> human beings speak. A Divine Incarnation's Word is

Law and

>> therefore " legal " . A Divine Incarnation's Word is

also " formal "

> when

>> Declared. Remember the Words of Jesus (the

reincarnation of Shri

>> Ganesha)... " Heaven and Earth shall pass away, but

my Words shall

>> not pass away. " (Matthew 24:35.) This also applies

to Shri

Mataji's

>> Declarations and Words.

>>

>> If Shri Mataji had wanted to so-called " formalize "

and " legalize "

>> Her ideal religion, why would She not have done so

when She was in

>> good health instead of waiting until She was too

frail? She

> pondered

>> for a long while whether even to have a religion,

because of

> concern

>> for what may be done with that by the subsequent

organizers. So

why

>> would She not also have pondered about a possible

SMNDSYF at that

>> time, just to tie up loose ends?

>>

>> The answer is in the Holy Scriptures:-

>>

>> " Are we beginning to commend ourselves again? Or do

we need, as

>> some, letters of commendation to you or from you?

>>

>> You are our letter, written in our hearts, known

and read by all

> men;

>> being manifested that you are a letter of Christ,

cared for by us,

>> written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the

living God, not

on

>> tablets of stone, but on tablets of human hearts.

>>

>> And such confidence we have through Christ toward

God.

>>

>> Not that we are adequate in ourselves to consider

anything as

> coming

>> from ourselves, but our adequacy is from God,

>> who also made us adequate as servants of a new

covenant, not of

the

>> letter, but of the Spirit; for the letter kills,

but the Spirit

>> gives life. "

>>

>> (2 Corinthians 3:1-6)

>>

>>

>> The answer is:-

>>

>> " FOR THE LETTER KILLS, BUT THE SPIRIT GIVES LIFE. "

>>

>> Remembering, that at the Inaugerative Proclamation

of Vishva

> Nirmala

>> Dharma, Shri Mataji said that you " are under the

guidance of your

>> Spirit. " Every Word Shri Mataji speaks, agrees with

the Holy Books

>> and Scriptures of past religions.

>>

>> And that is why i would venture to say, Shri Mataji

did not form a

>> SMNDSYF when in prime health, because " the letter

kills, but the

>> Spirit gives life. "

>>

>> This " formalization " and " legalization " has already

cost us very

>> dear casualties. The ex-leader of Russia, whom Shri

Adi Shakti

>> Herself picked, has resigned from the World Council

due to the

>> tactics of SMNDSYF, which he says he could not

bear. He resigned

> due

>> to conscientious objections, as he could not be

SMNDSYF's 'yes'

> man.

>> Here are his very sad words:-

>>

>> " Dear brothers and sisters! Sahaja yogis of Russia!

>>

>> I would like to use this only possibility to

address to you all.

The

>> stage, when Divine Incarnation, Shri Mataji Nirmala

Devi, founded

> and

>> personally was in charge of Sahaja yoga, has

finished. The time

has

>> come now, when without Her participation formation

of a new

> worldwide

>> organization named Sahaja Yoga takes place. The new

leaders,

basing

>> on their experience and beliefs emphatically

suggested me to leave

>> the position of leader of Russia and a member of

the World

Council I

>> have been taking, as they need a completely

controllable and

easily

>> directed from abroad candidate. I do not see

possibility for

myself

>> to take part in such organization, as well as I do

not want to

fight

>> and act with the same methods they do. Thus I leave

the position I

>> was given in 1999 by Shri Adi Shakti, as now a new

organization is

>> created, where I cannot be a leader, as principles

of it's

formation

>> contradict everything taught by our Mother. I would

like to thank

> you

>> for all your great love and support, which I felt

for all these 6

>> years. Thank you very much for we together reached

unseen spread

of

>> Sahaja Yoga in Russia and are second (in quantity)

collective in

the

>> world. And in quality, I think, the first! I leave

with clear

>> conscience.

>>

>> With all my love and best wishes,

>> ex-leader of Sahaja Yoga in Russia

>> Perezhogin S.V. "

>>

>> The above letter is not passed on to rank and file

yogis, because

>> these things are now kept secret. This also is very

different to

> the

>> way Shri Mataji did things. If She stood a leader

down, She always

>> gathered us SY's around, and told us about it and

the reasons for

> it

>> as well.

>>

>> We do know, however, that those in the SMNDSYF have

now given

>> themselves official powers to 'hire' and 'fire' all

SY's and

> leaders

>> who do not " toe their official version of the

truth " .

>>

>> So i ask you, has Shri Mataji's Original Vision,

Mission & Message

>> been upheld? Or has it been hijacked by clever

organizers?

>>

>> Violet

>>

>>

>>

>> Below is many Words of Advice given by Shri Mataji

to SY's over

the

>> years. Judge for yourself, whether SMNDSYF have

really taken these

>> words to heart and acted by them:-

>>

>>

>> Advice Given By

>> H.H. Shri Mataji

>> Gudi Padwa, 24 March 1993...

>>

>> " Leaders should be very careful. They should become

free of all

>> arrogance. They are only a communication link, like

I have to put

a

>> letter in the envelope and post it. They should be

careful of

>> possessions.

>>

>> (Australian Sahaja Newsletter - 10 February 1996)

>>

>>

>> " The main point is that you leave everything to

Paramchaitanya in

>> your wisdom. If you cannot, then you have not felt

the real

>> knowledge within you. "

>>

>> H.H. Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>> Navaratri Puja, 1998

>>

>>

>> " Paramchaitanya is looking after you. You don't

have to make a

very

>> conscious effort, there's no need to have any

conscious effort.

>> Accept life as it is - as it is. Whatever life is

there, accept

it.

>> Don't retaliate. Don't get angry. Don't get upset.

Just accept.

And

>> you will enjoy the same life that was irritating

you. You will see

>> the enjoying part of that and it will be so

beautiful the way you

>> will see that you will get over all your problems.

You will get

> over

>> all your enemies and a kind of very fresh,

beautiful existence you

>> will have... "

>>

>> (The Words of Shri Mataji - Sahasrara Puja 1999)

>> Australian Sahaja Newsletter - 12 June, 1999

>>

>>

>> " The real knowledge is to know what is God.(...)

It's God

Almighty,

>> who knows everything, who does everything, who

enjoys everything.

>> That is the one we should say is the gnyana, is the

knowledge.

It's

>> the true knowledge, the pure knowledge.

>>

>> It is not the knowledge of chakras, not the

knowledge of

> vibrations,

>> not the knowledge of Kundalini, but the knowledge

of God Almighty.

>> And the knowledge of God Almighty is not mental. "

>>

>> Shri Mataji Nirmala Devi

>> Shivaratri Puja 1991

>>

>>

>> Birthday Puja Talk (Synopsis)

>> H.H. Shri 'Mataji Nirmala Devi'

>> (New Delhi - 21st March 1998)

>>

>> How To Begin Your Sahaj Work...

>>

>> " Be confident. That is how it is going to work out.

I am just a

>> woman and a housewife but I was so sure about Sahaj

yoga that it

>> worked out. I did not have to think whether I

should do it or not.

> I

>> just started. In the family it was not so much

respected. I

started

>> on my own. Worked it out on my own. Because I had

complete

>> confidence in the Truth. So for you, it should not

be difficult.

>>

>> All of you should see you are not a " conditioned

person " and you

do

>> not have an " ego " . Then you should go ahead with it

and then you

>> will be amazed how it will be working. There are so

many things I

>> cannot tell you in this short time but if you sit

down you can

>> easily make a list yourself. Put your mind to it...

in a way that

>> you are the organizer. What can you do...what are

you going to

>> do...Please try. All of you can do it. "

>>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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, " violet_tubb "

<vtubb@b...> wrote:

> Dear Yogini,

>

> Thank you for your email.

>

> It is my policy to post quotes of private messages without

> revealing the person's identity in order to help other SY's.

>

> i would encourage you to post directly, even under another ID if

> you have any fears about posting directly.

>

> Violet

>

>

> Here is a letter i have received from a Sahaja Yogini, whose name i

> will keep anonymous, to protect her identity...

>

>

> > Violet,

> >

> > You have already given the answer to all of your questions below

> > with this quote:

> >

> > " The main point is that you leave everything to Paramchaitanya in

> > your wisdom. If you cannot, then you have not felt the real

> > knowledge within you. "

> >

> > I am a good Sahaja Yogi(ni) who sees the hypocrisy of the WCASY.

> > Frankly, I don't believe that Shri Mataji formed it. It is

> > unnecessary, if the Paramchaitanya is guiding us.

> >

> > Perhaps the best course of action for us is to let the

> > Paramchaitanya do the work and we just watch the play. After

> > all, we have all the tools necessary - Havan, shoe beat, string

> > burning, etc.

> >

> > I for one intend to give self-realization and help others to grow

> > in Sahaja Yoga - not in an incorporated organization but in the

> > Sahaja Yoga within themselves. That's the Sahaja Yoga I'm

> > spreading.

> >

> > Regards,

>

> > (yogini)

> >

> >

 

Dear sister,

 

Sahaja Yoga has entered a dangerous phase given the direction

management SYs are taking in organizing the Truth and inducing

others to believe that WCASY council members represent the Will of

Shri Mataji. It will naive of us to forget history - those in power

always organized a religion out of every messenger's teachings,

forming countless conflicting churches, temples, mosques,

synagogues, and gurdwaras. The masses just blindly followed these

self-empowered representatives of the Divine — priests, pastors,

reverends, bishops, popes, rabbis, clerics, imams, mullahs, shaikhs,

ulema, ayatollahs, gurus, swamis, pandits, brahmins, acaryas,

bhagwans, granthis, gianis, lamas, monks, dalai lamas. Few of the

faithful were ever able to be their own masters in the real sense of

the word as even they too belonged to one of the countless religious

sect. None were able to embrace the teachings of all the prophets

and scriptures.

 

In the 1970's Shri Mataji came with the Great News and openly

declared the Divine Message to humanity. Sahaja Yoga is but a by-

product of the original Divine Message. Those management SYs

jostling for power need the legal ownership of the name " Sahaja

Yoga " to enforce their future will on all Her devotees. Since WCASY

now own it you have little choice but to unwittingly empower them

against your will. Next they will patent all treatments and

meditation methods just like Bikram did. Even Shri Mataji's

teachings will be strictly copyrighted. Only those willing to follow

their organized truth will be able to use such material.

 

The only way you can be free to be your own master is to simplify

and protect the heart and soul of Shri Mataji's teachings i.e.,

spreading the Divine Message to humanity. Just tell others about the

Divine Message and give them self-realization to continue on their

own. All they need to do is to meditate twice a day and be daily

conscious that the Last Judgment and Resurrection is taking place.

There should be no need to do any external rituals like havan, shoe

beat, string burning, etc. because the Mother Kundalini and Cool

Breeze can by far take care of all problems. Compared to the later,

all forms of cures and treatments pale in significance and

effectiveness. Moreover these rituals will be rejected by most non-

Hindus as they are not found in the Holy Scriptures.

 

Many SYs think all these treatments are necessary because all these

years they have been conditioned to rely on external aids instead of

their internal spiritual powers. And if tomorrow WCASY decides to

patent the treatments those not subscribing to their organized truth

will not be able to use them without their permission. Thus

simplifying the facts and self-empowering new seekers to be their

own masters from the beginning is of paramount importance. This is

the only way Shri Mataji's Original Vision, Mission & Message can

never be hijacked and edited out by those claiming to be

representatives of Her Will.

 

For the past two weeks I have been able to meditate and reflect

deeply on this issue as my computer went for a major repair. Those

able to do the same will reach a level of awareness, joy and bliss

as how the Paramchaitanya is working out the spread of the Divine

Message. The only thing i can say with absolute conviction is that

it is the Great News of the Divine Message to humanity, not Sahaja

Yoga, that will gather strength in future and spread. i know many

SYs will react against such a statement but please refrain. All you

need is to climb higher up the mountain and confirm the same point

of view. And when you are able to see so many management-controlled

SYs walking around aimlessly on the plateau far below you will never

look back again. You will be convinced in heart, mind and soul that

you have truly lived to the highest standard and understanding of

Shri Mataji's Original Vision, Mission & Message.

 

Jai Shri Mataji,

 

 

jagbir

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JAI SHRI MATAJI!

 

Thankyou, my Uncle,

I do understand your clarity, and beginning to see it,

l used to worry about this, but is ok. We cannot deny

the true knowledge inside us, for it is impossible

actually-is it!

--- jagbir singh <adishakti_org wrote:

 

 

 

,

" violet_tubb "

<vtubb@b...> wrote:

> Dear Yogini,

>

> Thank you for your email.

>

> It is my policy to post quotes of private messages

without

> revealing the person's identity in order to help

other SY's.

>

> i would encourage you to post directly, even under

another ID if

> you have any fears about posting directly.

>

> Violet

>

>

> Here is a letter i have received from a Sahaja

Yogini, whose name i

> will keep anonymous, to protect her identity...

>

>

> > Violet,

> >

> > You have already given the answer to all of your

questions below

> > with this quote:

> >

> > " The main point is that you leave everything to

Paramchaitanya in

> > your wisdom. If you cannot, then you have not felt

the real

> > knowledge within you. "

> >

> > I am a good Sahaja Yogi(ni) who sees the hypocrisy

of the WCASY.

> > Frankly, I don't believe that Shri Mataji formed

it. It is

> > unnecessary, if the Paramchaitanya is guiding us.

> >

> > Perhaps the best course of action for us is to let

the

> > Paramchaitanya do the work and we just watch the

play. After

> > all, we have all the tools necessary - Havan, shoe

beat, string

> > burning, etc.

> >

> > I for one intend to give self-realization and help

others to grow

> > in Sahaja Yoga - not in an incorporated

organization but in the

> > Sahaja Yoga within themselves. That's the Sahaja

Yoga I'm

> > spreading.

> >

> > Regards,

>

> > (yogini)

> >

> >

 

Dear sister,

 

Sahaja Yoga has entered a dangerous phase given the

direction

management SYs are taking in organizing the Truth and

inducing

others to believe that WCASY council members represent

the Will of

Shri Mataji. It will naive of us to forget history -

those in power

always organized a religion out of every messenger's

teachings,

forming countless conflicting churches, temples,

mosques,

synagogues, and gurdwaras. The masses just blindly

followed these

self-empowered representatives of the Divine —

priests, pastors,

reverends, bishops, popes, rabbis, clerics, imams,

mullahs, shaikhs,

ulema, ayatollahs, gurus, swamis, pandits, brahmins,

acaryas,

bhagwans, granthis, gianis, lamas, monks, dalai lamas.

Few of the

faithful were ever able to be their own masters in the

real sense of

the word as even they too belonged to one of the

countless religious

sect. None were able to embrace the teachings of all

the prophets

and scriptures.

 

In the 1970's Shri Mataji came with the Great News and

openly

declared the Divine Message to humanity. Sahaja Yoga

is but a by-

product of the original Divine Message. Those

management SYs

jostling for power need the legal ownership of the

name " Sahaja

Yoga " to enforce their future will on all Her

devotees. Since WCASY

now own it you have little choice but to unwittingly

empower them

against your will. Next they will patent all

treatments and

meditation methods just like Bikram did. Even Shri

Mataji's

teachings will be strictly copyrighted. Only those

willing to follow

their organized truth will be able to use such

material.

 

The only way you can be free to be your own master is

to simplify

and protect the heart and soul of Shri Mataji's

teachings i.e.,

spreading the Divine Message to humanity. Just tell

others about the

Divine Message and give them self-realization to

continue on their

own. All they need to do is to meditate twice a day

and be daily

conscious that the Last Judgment and Resurrection is

taking place.

There should be no need to do any external rituals

like havan, shoe

beat, string burning, etc. because the Mother

Kundalini and Cool

Breeze can by far take care of all problems. Compared

to the later,

all forms of cures and treatments pale in significance

and

effectiveness. Moreover these rituals will be rejected

by most non-

Hindus as they are not found in the Holy Scriptures.

 

Many SYs think all these treatments are necessary

because all these

years they have been conditioned to rely on external

aids instead of

their internal spiritual powers. And if tomorrow WCASY

decides to

patent the treatments those not subscribing to their

organized truth

will not be able to use them without their permission.

Thus

simplifying the facts and self-empowering new seekers

to be their

own masters from the beginning is of paramount

importance. This is

the only way Shri Mataji's Original Vision, Mission &

Message can

never be hijacked and edited out by those claiming to

be

representatives of Her Will.

 

For the past two weeks I have been able to meditate

and reflect

deeply on this issue as my computer went for a major

repair. Those

able to do the same will reach a level of awareness,

joy and bliss

as how the Paramchaitanya is working out the spread of

the Divine

Message. The only thing i can say with absolute

conviction is that

it is the Great News of the Divine Message to

humanity, not Sahaja

Yoga, that will gather strength in future and spread.

i know many

SYs will react against such a statement but please

refrain. All you

need is to climb higher up the mountain and confirm

the same point

of view. And when you are able to see so many

management-controlled

SYs walking around aimlessly on the plateau far below

you will never

look back again. You will be convinced in heart, mind

and soul that

you have truly lived to the highest standard and

understanding of

Shri Mataji's Original Vision, Mission & Message.

 

Jai Shri Mataji,

 

 

jagbir

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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